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So the new Grand Wagoneer or whatever it's called will be a Ramcharger type vehicle built on the same line and using the same underpinnings as the next gen Ram truck.
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euphronius posted:Aren't jeeps always unibody? Not the Wrangler at least, but no one knew what this new one was going to be and speculated it might be some new unibody grand cherokee derivative but looks like it isn't.
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butterbar posted:If you want an old man car just buy a Genesis. It probably costs the same I already have 100 oil drain plug washers so I will stick with 3.5 L toyota forever.
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Elephanthead posted:I already have 100 oil drain plug washers so I will stick with 3.5 L toyota forever. Good news, it'll be with you too... forever
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Jan 11, 2017 17:30
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Throatwarbler posted:So the new Grand Wagoneer or whatever it's called will be a Ramcharger type vehicle built on the same line and using the same underpinnings as the next gen Ram truck. Well, they're shooting for the escalade, so i guess this isn't really a bad thing. I'm still curious what the "jeep pickup" will be, but I'm guessing that might be a revived scrambler (I can dream).
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Good news, it'll be with you too... forever I hope to use all 100 on my mini van. It is only 500k miles.
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As Nero Danced posted:Well, they're shooting for the escalade, so i guess this isn't really a bad thing. I'm still curious what the "jeep pickup" will be, but I'm guessing that might be a revived scrambler (I can dream). It's a Wrangler with a bed.
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Jan 11, 2017 17:57
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Sole Survivor posted:It's a Wrangler with a bed. Close enough for me, unless they screw it up that's what I've wanted for a while.
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BigPaddy posted:If you tick every option sure but if you want to drive it then you are going to keep the manual box and not get heavy leather seats, sun roof etc.... I think my 2013 GTI had an invoice price of $24k. A DSG Autobahn GTI drives just fine.
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Powershift posted:
Both of these cars are fabulous but google the curb weight for both!
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Throatwarbler posted:So the new Grand Wagoneer or whatever it's called will be a Ramcharger type vehicle built on the same line and using the same underpinnings as the next gen Ram truck. So they're finally making that BOF Tahoe/Suburban clone they should have made 20+ years ago?
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On one hand a new SRT Demon with a stupid video. On the other more cheating allegations
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FCA: We are killing the Viper since there is no market for stupidly fast toys. * leaks about SRT Demon with uprated Hellcat engine start to appear * FCA: Shoo shoo there is no such thing!
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Sole Survivor posted:It's a Wrangler with a bed. Watch it be another Jeep Compass instead
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Jan 12, 2017 23:45
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Sole Survivor posted:It's a Wrangler with a bed. You can get a Wrangler conversion with a bed and it looks ridiculous  Expensive too, I think that red one had $90k or so sticker (worthless NZD but still)
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Yeah, but that fuckin cherokee beside it looks like it has $57k in the window and those aren't worth gently caress all in the developed world so that $90k nzd is probably like 40-45k usd.
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dissss posted:You can get a Wrangler conversion with a bed and it looks ridiculous Looks like the old Scrambler. I have nothing bad to say about it. And yeah, like he said up there, the cherokee looks like hammered dog poo poo by comparison. I wish they still looked like the early 90s ones. God they were so good.
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BloodBag posted:Looks like the old Scrambler. I have nothing bad to say about it. And yeah, like he said up there, the cherokee looks like hammered dog poo poo by comparison. I wish they still looked like the early 90s ones. God they were so good. If it gives you solace, the 90s Cherokee lives on in China, where they sold all the tooling
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butterbar posted:If it gives you solace, the 90s Cherokee lives on in China, where they sold all the tooling Gaz volga tried the same thing in 08 with the chrysler sebring, and it was so bad it killed the brand taking the Gaz 31105 with it. The sebring is so bad even the russians wouldn't buy it.
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I was amused and horrified when I read that GAZ bought the Sebring tooling. Considering how horrible the Sebring was I can't imagine what it would be like built by Russians.
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oRenj9 posted:GM hosed their chances for a hybrid truck a decade ago. Replying to an old post but I have to say, that decal makes me (and did when it was new) angry in a way I can't put words to GM earned its bankruptcy
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FuturePastNow posted:Replying to an old post but I have to say, that decal makes me (and did when it was new) angry in a way I can't put words to GM has a long, long history of doing the least with the most.
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oRenj9 posted:Ford got truck buyers to pay extra over a V8 for a V6. That suggests to me that a large portion of truck buyers are more pragmatic than the bro-scene suggests and a hybrid that can demonstrate better capability and fuel economy will actually sell. Just wanted to say I recognized this Chevy design here: https://streamable.com/utk5u
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What was so bad about the GM hybrid trucks? I have no experience so I've never really heard anything about them other than they existed for a brief period of time.
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Mr. Apollo posted:What was so bad about the GM hybrid trucks? I have no experience so I've never really heard anything about them other than they existed for a brief period of time. Gm called them a "parallel hybrid", but not in the usual sense of the term. Basically it replaced the typical starter motor with a larger motor/generator; it charged a bank of 4 12V batteries, and provided start/stop functionality, but crucially did NOT under any circumstances provide tractive force. So basically a complicated, heavy workaround to provide start/stop without direct injection, which barely improved mileage at all. It did have an inverter to power a few external 120VAC outlets, so it sold decently well with contractors. Nothing like what we typically think of when we think "hybrid" today, though.
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I remember the Tahoe "Hybrid" showing up on the local Chevy lot and checking out the sticker. The EPA rating was 20/20 City/Highway.
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Q_res posted:I remember the Tahoe "Hybrid" showing up on the local Chevy lot and checking out the sticker. The EPA rating was 20/20 City/Highway. That's a pretty good gain over the normal one which was 14/19. MPG is stupid way of measuring anyway as it distorts differences - it should be l/100km (or G/100 miles)
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Enourmo posted:Gm called them a "parallel hybrid", but not in the usual sense of the term. Basically it replaced the typical starter motor with a larger motor/generator; it charged a bank of 4 12V batteries, and provided start/stop functionality, but crucially did NOT under any circumstances provide tractive force. So basically a complicated, heavy workaround to provide start/stop without direct injection, which barely improved mileage at all. The one you are talking about is the GMT800 parallel hybrid, the one in the picture is the GMT900 "2 mode hybrid" that was a joint venture between GM, Chrysler and BMW and also resulted in the Dodge Durango hybrid and BMW X6 hybrid. It was a huge investment that produced one of the most complex hybrid electric transmission systems ever conceived. So naturally they canceled it after 2 model years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Hybrid_Cooperation
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2018 Mustang looks pretty nice. Facelift, V6 is gone, slight power bump, 10 speed auto, digital cluster. http://www.roadkill.com/all-new-2018-mustang-gets-a-facelift-performance-upgrade/  
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I can't wait for ignorant mustang/camaro fanboys to argue about who's 10 speed shifts quicker 
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Looks like the V8 is getting direct/port injection also.
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Powershift posted:I can't wait for ignorant mustang/camaro fanboys to argue about who's 10 speed shifts quicker Anyone that would about that isn't getting the automatic.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Anyone that would about that isn't getting the automatic. lol this thing looks fantastic
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butterbar posted:If it gives you solace, the 90s Cherokee lives on in China, where they sold all the tooling Nah, they had their own tooling. They've been building Cherokees at Beijing Jeep Corporation for decades. Lots of little Chinese eccentricities too, like high roof models.
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Powershift posted:I can't wait for ignorant mustang/camaro fanboys to argue about who's 10 speed shifts quicker I love my SRAM 10 speed Rival. It's really great and tactile shifting.  I saw a focus RS yesterday in white. loving racecar, that thing looks awesome in person. E: wasn't the last 4 cylinder mustang the old fox body one in the early 90's?  It was also 2.3L
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opengl128 posted:2018 Mustang looks pretty nice. It looks dumpy as gently caress in the first picture, and great in the second one. Car photographers, take note. Please don't make the cars look foreshortened, it looks like rear end.
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Both images are almost certainly computer generated, which makes weird poo poo happen sometimes.
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 I liked analog gauges for at least the tach and speedo, they could've at least made them as cool as 80s digital ones 
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