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GrandpaPants posted:Married With Children lost its theme song on DVD release. The Door Frame posted:It's very rare for games, even for non-functional ones like Arkham Knight, to get actual lawsuits brought against them. However they dropped their investigation from No Man's Sky, unless there's another active lawsuit that's still going. I think SEGA/Gearbox god away with the Colonial Marines debacle as the class action suit was dropped in 2015 and unless the plaintiffs are following up with some other deal nothing's seemed to have been reported since.
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Len posted:Music licensing is great. I bought the Daria DVD set and it has a letter in it about how when they made the show the thought of selling the show wasn't even a thing so they didn't get the home video rights and now it would be cost prohibitive to get them so the solution was to just strip all the music from the show and replace it with generic stuff. The BBC has a special license that means that they can use any music they like, without additional fees, for domestic use. That means that Top Gear can use any music they like, without issue. When other stations or DVDs want to play an episode of TG, they have to negotiate all the rights for all these tracks individually, perhaps at higher costs. They usually opt for the cheaper version of using alternative tracks. Thus, this clever segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aY1QSQ31KM Makes little sense when viewed on other channels, as they had to remove 'Money' and hence the entire point of it. It's also bad in subtle ways. When James arrives in this scene (on the non-BBC transmitted version), you may wonder at the odd incidental music they chose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7q8lWEd-o&t=82s That because they weren't allowed to use this music, which was the theme tune to a classic comedy programme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA9IQycyMX4 Famously, the main character, a hapless fool, drove an Austin Princess. But with the theme musics, the entire joke at James's expense disappears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz2g9iYMMIM
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Somfin posted:If it wasn't lyin' Randy Pitchford, I wouldn't even bother with this, but it is, so I checked. God these are hard to look at. I mean they are literally hard to look at. My eyes won't stay on them, it's like they're desperately searching for something, anything else to focus on.
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Ape Has Killed Ape posted:God these are hard to look at. I mean they are literally hard to look at. My eyes won't stay on them, it's like they're desperately searching for something, anything else to focus on. It's like LoL and Overwatch had a baby, and Overwatch drank through the entire pregnancy.
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Jan 18, 2017 00:49
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spog posted:The BBC has a special license that means that they can use any music they like, without additional fees, for domestic use. That means that Top Gear can use any music they like, without issue.
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Jan 18, 2017 01:05
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If I remember correctly when WKRP was released on DVD as a boxed set all of the music was replaced with garbage tracks. Unsurprisingly when they licensed the good tunes for the TV show, no one ever thought that they would be releasing it for sale later and so never secured rights for the music for later use. If you remember WKRP, they played lots and lots of popular music. I believe a later release of the DVD got music rights I have no concept how.
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Mu Zeta posted:I don't really like Reddit humor so no thanks on Borderlands 2 I forgot how much they cranked up the memes in the second one. The first one feels tame.
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Jan 18, 2017 05:18
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Tales From The Borderlands is the best Borderlands game because most of the writing is done by people who aren't Gearbox.
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Jan 18, 2017 05:31
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Wasn't Borderlands made with money another producer gave them to make an Aliens game, so they just poo poo out Colonial Marines?
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Jan 18, 2017 05:56
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The best is when the Netflix version of a show cheaps out on licensed music but uses subtitles from the DVD so randomly you get the lyrics for a song that isn't playing while generic track #7 plays.
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bobjr posted:Wasn't Borderlands made with money another producer gave them to make an Aliens game, so they just poo poo out Colonial Marines? Borderlands 2 if I recall.
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Screaming Idiot posted:It's like LoL and Overwatch had a baby, and Overwatch drank through the entire pregnancy. For what it's worth, I don't think Overwatch's character designs are that great. They've done a good job giving the characters pretty distinctive silhouettes and personalities, which is great, but when you look at the fine details of the actual characters and the clothes they wear I hate how much meaningless 'tech' details there are, just a bunch of messy armour plates and little techno-details that just busy the image and don't mean anything. E: I thought this was the games chat thread, so I guess this post is a little off topic 
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Jan 18, 2017 08:48
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Freaks and Geeks is another example that didn't initially get the licenses for the songs for later sale, only with that show they ended up getting them all. It's why it took so long for a Freaks and Geeks box set to come out. That said, F&G only has 18 episodes so it would have been much easier than a lot of other shows.
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Jan 18, 2017 10:11
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It's also why it's so friggin expensive. Worth it, but still.
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Waffleman_ posted:Tales From The Borderlands is the best Borderlands game because most of the writing is done by people who aren't Gearbox.
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GrandpaPants posted:Married With Children lost its theme song on DVD release. That's weird because I own the entire series on DVD and the theme song is intact.
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Red Bones posted:For what it's worth, I don't think Overwatch's character designs are that great. They've done a good job giving the characters pretty distinctive silhouettes and personalities, which is great, but when you look at the fine details of the actual characters and the clothes they wear I hate how much meaningless 'tech' details there are, just a bunch of messy armour plates and little techno-details that just busy the image and don't mean anything. I agree completely, but they're angels on the Sistine Chapel compared to the amateur whatthefuck of Battleborn. And hey, since they use character designs as marketing, we're stll pretty on-topic for what it's worth.
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Jan 18, 2017 13:33
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mobby_6kl posted:Do people actually pay attention to the non-shooty parts in these games? I played all Borderland games and have no real opinion on the writing, I guess there were some jokes in the dialog that didn't make much of a difference either way. some people find mediocrity irritating, yes
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I think music licensing also hosed with the Drew Carey show. They released the first season or two, but everything else is locked up. I guess they could release it without the opening credits...but those were really good opening credits.
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Krispy Kareem posted:I think music licensing also hosed with the Drew Carey show. They released the first season or two, but everything else is locked up. I guess they could release it without the opening credits...but those were really good opening credits. Yeah, Moon Over Parma is the theme for the first season, but they couldn't secure the rights for Five o'Clock World and Cleveland Rocks used for the rest of the seasons. It's a real shame, because the Drew Carey show aged pretty well for that weird mid-90s vintage of sitcom.
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So how does Glee fare with licensing?
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Presumably it's a bit easier since they're making their own covers rather than using pre-existing recordings.
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Jan 18, 2017 18:34
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The Wonder Years on Netflix uses a version of With a Little Help from My Friends that sounds very close to the Joe Cocker version but is slightly different. Them being so similar makes the differences much more jarring.
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Correct. Recordings for sync (which is the you're off license for video use) are administered individually by rights holders (usually the record label) but composition and lyrics are mostly handled by ASCAP/BMI or the Harry Fox Agency. IANAL I just deal with this stuff a lot.
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Wilford Cutlery posted:So how does Glee fare with licensing? Distribution in other formats is a key part of their business model so I'm sure they got things covered ahead of time.
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The Door Frame posted:Alani, Deande, and Pheobe are vague enough that a talented artist probably has enough room to make them not poo poo. I've never actually looked at the characters before and they're in this weird space between over-designed and completely uninspired that makes me gloss over them immediately. Gloss over them to the point that I didn't notice that there were bird people in power armor on that website until I noticed that a few of the characters didn't really have heads...
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GWBBQ posted:This must be what it feels like like for non-enthusiasts who wander into the spaceflight thread. If not for Wikipedia, I would have no idea what you were talking about. I've played all the Borderlands games and I read all kinds of gaming news and I still had to Google what A:CM is
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quote:The Wonder Years look a long time to get any home video release owing to music rights. UK shows have an interesting quirk where they're allowed to pick bits out of the BBC music library, which has a ton of commercial songs, but that cannot get used on their DVDs. The nice thing about the BBC situation is that as a result, a lot of their good stuff ends up on Youtube for free. I ended up becoming familiar with Charlie Brooker through a friend, and ALL of his stuff is on there. Obviously no good if you don't like Charlie's shtick, but I think he's pretty awesome. There's also stuff like Soul/Reggae/Punk Britannia on there because of it. The cool thing is, BBC has given their blessing in this case, because they know the rights are a legal rat's nest but they want people to see their stuff without worrying about region content laws.
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mobby_6kl posted:Do people actually pay attention to the non-shooty parts in these games? I played all Borderland games and have no real opinion on the writing, I guess there were some jokes in the dialog that didn't make much of a difference either way. My brother and I played BL2 when we were drunk, called it "follow the diamond" and had fun shooting/looting. I can't tell you what the plot actually was, just that there's a bad guy who hates vault dwellers. The humor is pretty tryhard and cringey though, Borderlands would be much better if Gearbox realized their characters aren't that witty and just stuck to exploration, killing, and looting. I might be alone there.
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Regrettable posted:That's weird because I own the entire series on DVD and the theme song is intact. The set I had, used the proper music for the first 4? Series, then jarringly switched to the cheap version for the rest.
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This is why I will forever love Apple because they fixed this kind of licensing poo poo when it came to buying your own music at least. I bought my mom the Outlander series on Blu-Ray and digital for Christmas. To access the digital copies of her mommy porn I had to first go to Sony's site, create an account, and input a code. Then I went to Ultraviolet and linked my new Sony account. Then I logged into her Roku and looked for the Flixster app that Ultraviolet's website said would work, but Flixster got bought out by Fandango and now it's called FandangoNow. I create a FandangoNow account and link my Ultraviolet account and now I can see her Outlander season in my list of shows, but that's all I can see because FandangoNow only streams in a web browser. I call Sony's helpdesk and they're all like, "just download Vudu." even though that app is listed nowhere in any documentation. I download that on my increasingly frustrated mom's Roku and her Outlander shows up, but only to purchase. We wait 5 minutes and it updates to show she actually owns it and doesn't just have it linked through 3 different media accounts for nothing. I guess they stopped using iTunes with these digital copies because when I purchased The Force Awakens I entered my code, selected iTunes, and it was ready to play. Now it's a mess of apps and accounts that's almost as awkward as watching Outlander with your mother.
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Doesn't iTunes require you to load up iTunes to watch the stuff? I prefer Amazon/Google because you can just watch from the browser without extra bullshit.
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Jesus, it's the mid 2000s all over again with the legal consumer getting MORE hassle than a pirate.
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My friends and I thought about how weird someone would sound if they went back a few decades and said "In the future, you'll have to use your phone to set up the TV."
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Mu Zeta posted:Doesn't iTunes require you to load up iTunes to watch the stuff? I prefer Amazon/Google because you can just watch from the browser without extra bullshit. Yes and that kinda sucks. It's not unbearable, but a browser window would be easier. Also, conversely, I wish there was some way to watch Apple-purchased things on something like a Roku. But watching purchased stuff on an AppleTV is just aces, but you're either in that ecosystem fully or you aren't, I guess.
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RobotDogPolice posted:My friends and I thought about how weird someone would sound if they went back a few decades and said "In the future, you'll have to use your phone to set up the TV." Your audience would assume that you meant you had to call the cable company to get things sorted out.
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Last Chance posted:Yes and that kinda sucks. It's not unbearable, but a browser window would be easier. Also, conversely, I wish there was some way to watch Apple-purchased things on something like a Roku. But watching purchased stuff on an AppleTV is just aces, but you're either in that ecosystem fully or you aren't, I guess. Meh. Thats why I use Amazon for any rentals / purchases. Im definitely invested in apple - ive had multiple iphones along with my wife, mom and in laws. I own three apple tvs and have gone through 4 ipads (loving kids broke them - done with that poo poo for now) That being said Amazon video is just more user friendly and easy to use. Ive had too many times where I rent from itunes and it wont load on the apple tv, but also doesnt transfer to the bedroom tv or a phone or ipad. gently caress that. Ill just buy it on amazon and use it anywhere.
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Ape Has Killed Ape posted:God these are hard to look at. I mean they are literally hard to look at. My eyes won't stay on them, it's like they're desperately searching for something, anything else to focus on. I thought maybe I gave them too hard a time from just the snapshots, so I went and checked out the design and watched the background video of each character by clicking through. Wow. The mushroom dude is the only one that isn't aggressively bad. How do you even manage that?
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It's quite impressive to make a character shooter with boring rear end character designs.
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sassassin posted:Distribution in other formats is a key part of their business model so I'm sure they got things covered ahead of time. Johnny Aztec posted:Jesus, it's the mid 2000s all over again with the legal consumer getting MORE hassle than a pirate.
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