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Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

TWSS posted:

Have you done the rear subframe reinforcement? Redish motorsport in bristol created the procedure we use and it is very good. Please have it done because if you have not your arse end looks like this







Had it done but full cage tied into subframes now so no problem. Also reddish piss me off tbh.

Christ the mid engine thing was a bit of a laugh.

IOwnCalculus posted:

Isn't the front-mid sperglord argument something about the front of the crank being behind the front wheel centerline?


Apparently it's just about the very idea of it haha.

NitroSpazzz posted:

Front-mid BS aside drat that's far back, really nice. How will you be dealing with oil pan clearance? From what I've seen LS engines have a deep sump at the front of the engine which would be an issue similar to what I'm running into on my swap. If you can mount it back that far you might be able to get away with just chopping the subframe and squeezing in behind the steering rack.

Can I recommend dry sump :getin: Especially since LS pans and kits are all over eBay and comparatively cheap.


Using a f body sump and a baffle setup. May consider dry sump in the future but it's serious serious money for anything "good". So much out there seems to be snake oil.

Love cars me.

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NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!




You know what must be done - http://www.speedhunters.com/2016/11/gaining-perspective-an-ls-swapped-m3/

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Thats terrible actually and the lovely oversize rims, stretched tires and bagzzz could probably pay for Bape's swap twice/thrice over.

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Nov 26, 2016

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

I hate that kit and the idea of air. I can probably buy my touring car Intrax setup for the same price as that fibreglass!
I have some friends at work designing me a custom time attack looking setup anyways. It'll be more fun than just buying mega expensive stuff from Japan that actually is shite but everyone on the internet loves. Hahahaha.
Anyway my manifolds are built! Which is nice.

A lad I know has just finished this: https://www.facebook.com/fraser.stark.16/posts/10209070080446794

I hope mine will be faster still 🤔

Bape Culture fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Nov 26, 2016

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


IMO the body kit and poo poo is terrible and I'm still not sold on air suspension for track use even though it's getting there. I just meant the super charger.

Intrax makes some really nice stuff and is probably what I'd be going with if mine didn't already have pretty drat good stuff in there. Still may swap out to something more modern after running it for a while. Apparently the Gruppe N stuff on mine is highly sought after by people despite newer stuff being an improvement.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

There's not so much to update as coordinating parts from Texas and Florida to the UK as you approach Christmas while you're sat on a beach in Mauritius is not the easiest!

Manifolds are finished though! Here's a nice pic of Craig making em.







MARRY CHRISTMAS! :D

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer
Can't wait for you to let me drive this 😌

Iconic Racism
Apr 8, 2009
I got nothing to add to this thread other than it's awesome following it and I like you as a poster :)

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

track day bro! posted:

Can't wait for you to let me drive this 😌

You can have a little drive at Bedford tbh. You're quite little tho and my seat and pedals are fixed 🤔


Iconic Racism posted:

I got nothing to add to this thread other than it's awesome following it and I like you as a poster :)

Thanks pal. What a lovely thing to say.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

Motor is BUILT!



So that's a new insane cam, new race spec push rods, springs, retainers etc. Yay titanium! New baffled sump and all sealed up with ARP hardware. Exciting times!

Hoping to have engine in by the end of this week.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Post videos of it running plz.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

I will :twisted:

TWSS
Jun 19, 2008
Why choose titanium retainers over tool steel in a road race build?

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


What size throttle body? Stock 90mm? What specs on the cam?

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

TWSS posted:

Why choose titanium retainers over tool steel in a road race build?

Weight and durability I suppose. Everyone I spoke to recommended it. Should help with my clean revving spec? I'm insanely new to LS motors so just went with general advice though tbh.

Cop Porn Popper posted:

What size throttle body? Stock 90mm? What specs on the cam?

Yeah it's 90mm. Am I correct in thinking I'm not gonna see much improvement without doing the intake manifold at the same time? Just didn't have the extra cash for a Fast or similar and didn't want it to become an endless project.

Cam is 235/239 .627"/.624"

Which is the same my mate is running in his RX8. It's a great cam. Revs to 7k and made 550hp. Lots at the top end.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


I haven't seen one of these swaps in person so it always surprises me how much room is available in the bay with that engine in there.

Really need to get my engine in, this life poo poo keeps getting in the way and slowing me down. Seeing how quickly yours is moving along is making me consider finding a shop to get it mounted, wired and plumbed.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Lighter parts mean lower forces at a given rpm.

As far as i know, the only issue with ti is having two moving ti parts touching. I hear a lot of c6 z06s have lunched the motor because of the ti rods galling on each other.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

jamal posted:

Lighter parts mean lower forces at a given rpm.

As far as i know, the only issue with ti is having two moving ti parts touching. I hear a lot of c6 z06s have lunched the motor because of the ti rods galling on each other.

Yeah that's what I meant. Yeah my builder said this and something about LS7s use of it not actually being particularly amazing in practice. I guess that's why he spec'd not ti rods but will ask.


NitroSpazzz posted:

I haven't seen one of these swaps in person so it always surprises me how much room is available in the bay with that engine in there.

Really need to get my engine in, this life poo poo keeps getting in the way and slowing me down. Seeing how quickly yours is moving along is making me consider finding a shop to get it mounted, wired and plumbed.

Yeah you should man! It freakin owns!!!
I need to read your thread come to think of it. I bet it's busier than mine 😭





Mama Mia :mrgw:

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Bape Culture posted:

Yeah it's 90mm. Am I correct in thinking I'm not gonna see much improvement without doing the intake manifold at the same time? Just didn't have the extra cash for a Fast or similar and didn't want it to become an endless project.

I think there's *some* benefit but honestly I'm not sure. I'm still running what is arguably the worst LSx induction setup. A FAST would be great but they really want a lot of money for those things.

It's probably less relevant for you, but Dorman is supposedly working on a LS2 intake that should cost about 1/3 of a FAST, still has a big TB opening, and uses the old FAST 78 lower design that they licensed. Should be a decent upgrade for anyone running LS1, LS6, LS2, or truck intake manifolds.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


Bape Culture posted:

Yeah you should man! It freakin owns!!!
I need to read your thread come to think of it. I bet it's busier than mine 😭

Mine's moving very slow right now but there's spurts of activity from time to time. Friend recently brought a fabricator from out of state to his shop to do some cages and other work, I've seen the cages and they looked great. He's finishing up some other projects now that I'll look at but he might swing by this weekend to take a look at mine and see what he thinks. I can handle plumbing, wiring and pretty much all the other stuff but I'm over my head with the fab stuff.

Modus Man
Jun 8, 2004



Soiled Meat

IOwnCalculus posted:

I think there's *some* benefit but honestly I'm not sure. I'm still running what is arguably the worst LSx induction setup. A FAST would be great but they really want a lot of money for those things.

It's probably less relevant for you, but Dorman is supposedly working on a LS2 intake that should cost about 1/3 of a FAST, still has a big TB opening, and uses the old FAST 78 lower design that they licensed. Should be a decent upgrade for anyone running LS1, LS6, LS2, or truck intake manifolds.

Yeah I've been waiting for the Dorman LS2 Intake since I read about it's development a year ago. i don't want to drop nearly a grand on the Fast LSX intake when the Dorman might be $300.

I can't wait to see and hear the LS3 M3 running! Are those cf bumper replacements? How much weight does that save?

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
That's stock :v:

crazzy
Jul 1, 2004
Martial Arts Master

BlackMK4 posted:

That's stock :v:

An actual real CSL, unobtanium here in americaland where the germans get revenge for WWII with every cool limited edition car they refuse to sell here :godwinning:

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Noooope, US M3 has those supports.

crazzy
Jul 1, 2004
Martial Arts Master

BlackMK4 posted:

Noooope, US M3 has those supports.

crap, i just googled and its indeed true.

I still stand by my comments about germany and getting back at the usa over wwII though :colbert:

TWSS
Jun 19, 2008
I was really curious about the titanium versus steel thing and decided to phone the local greybeard block wizard who doesn't have internet or a cellular phone. He does mostly race engines for circle track and said it all comes down to life expectancy. Titanium retainers are best for drag or road race motors with high lift cam(s) that like high rpm. That comes at a cost, because the steel spring is 30% harder than the titanium retainer it wears differently. He said to take off the heads each season and mic the retainers to check for wear. The fastest guys use them and replace every season, but for any endurance engine he recommended dual springs and steel retainers.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

IOwnCalculus posted:

I think there's *some* benefit but honestly I'm not sure. I'm still running what is arguably the worst LSx induction setup. A FAST would be great but they really want a lot of money for those things.

It's probably less relevant for you, but Dorman is supposedly working on a LS2 intake that should cost about 1/3 of a FAST, still has a big TB opening, and uses the old FAST 78 lower design that they licensed. Should be a decent upgrade for anyone running LS1, LS6, LS2, or truck intake manifolds.

Cool. Mine seems happy enough until I get a crazy intake manifold...




TWSS posted:

I was really curious about the titanium versus steel thing and decided to phone the local greybeard block wizard who doesn't have internet or a cellular phone. He does mostly race engines for circle track and said it all comes down to life expectancy. Titanium retainers are best for drag or road race motors with high lift cam(s) that like high rpm. That comes at a cost, because the steel spring is 30% harder than the titanium retainer it wears differently. He said to take off the heads each season and mic the retainers to check for wear. The fastest guys use them and replace every season, but for any endurance engine he recommended dual springs and steel retainers.

Cool, so it sounds like a chose correctly, just need to keep an eye on it :) thanks!

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

Right, we're getting achingly close now. Exhaust is all run and the entire oil system is primed. Wiring done. Gearbox linkage for the CAE setup done. Just waiting on a couple of sensors and gauges to arrive. You'll notice the CAE is mounted backwards compared to everyone else with a 46M. This is because of the Tremec box and it seems to integrate better this way! :D





Decided to send my dampers off for a rebuild while everything was up in the air.

So literally all that is left OE is the dashboard and shell, and even that's been modified haha.

Looking a bit sorry for itself, but more like a car than it has in 3 months!! :D



Excitement levels; Critical.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


brap brap. I take it you never bothered with the carbon wings? I forget if that was you or not.

GentlemanofLeisure
Aug 27, 2008

Bape Culture posted:

Excitement levels; Critical.
We're all excited too!

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

Olympic Mathlete posted:

brap brap. I take it you never bothered with the carbon wings? I forget if that was you or not.

Yeah that was me but I sold them for track time. I'm an addict but in a not too unhealthy way haha. Currently trying to sell these TE37s so I can book some shakedown track days.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
The FI guys tend to explode the dorman manifolds past a certain level of boost and denmah's making 900+whp on a stock manifold, stock throttle body, stock headers, stock everything basically. He maxed out a set of ridiculous injectors recently and thinks there is still more in it after upgrading the injectors. I'd stick with the stuff you got already till something limits you.

TWSS
Jun 19, 2008
We're going to use the stock truck intake on the L33 350z because 1200 usd for 15 hp and a midrange torque loss isn't worth it.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

BIG NEWS BITCHES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77SsL-SF5jQ

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
LAWD.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

I'm going to be erect for the rest of the year. Consequences of this?

shy boy from chess club
Jun 11, 2008

It wasnt that bad, after you left I got to help put out the fire!

Sweet Jesus

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

Good trick taking a camaro's exhaust and running it down a hose under the M3.

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



I'm really enjoying your race car build. It sounds so good. My V8 M3 will be delivered to me likely next Friday :getin:

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meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Bape Culture posted:

I'm going to be erect for the rest of the year. Consequences of this?

Nothing bad, just lots of things getting hit with your swinging LS dong.

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