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Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
Dad takes the kids for a walk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdQgTCKISyI


ALSO worth remembering: Kazvall gives a pubbie a conniption
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujg_IdvOf8Y

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Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Pattonesque posted:

Dad takes the kids for a walk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdQgTCKISyI


ALSO worth remembering: Kazvall gives a pubbie a conniption
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujg_IdvOf8Y

Ahahahahahahaha.

"Great so you can leave the game without penalty."

TeeMerk
Jun 9, 2013
4 man limit on groups would kill things like hunch bunch and garbage day.

I would rather deal with tonnage imbalance because if we cannot gimmick drop then half of the fun is lost.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
This game is literally no fun without gimmick drops.

Bobcats
Aug 5, 2004
Oh
Are the following things useless?

LBXes
Flamers
Streaks
Targeting computers

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Bobcats posted:

Are the following things useless?

LBXes
Flamers
Streaks
Targeting computers

LBX10s are fine en-masse (i.e. 4) and just OK-to-bad otherwise. LBX20s are good on big brawler chassis like the Spirit Bear. All other LBXs are bad.

Flamers in groups of two are good for brawler mechs because they rapidly heat up other robots and significantly decrease their DPS

Streak-6s are decent if massed on Stormcrows. All other sizes are bad

Most clan builds benefit from taking a Targeting Computer 1. Certain builds like PPC snipers benefit from larger TCs

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
also the new robbit is the Javelin

https://mwomercs.com/javelin

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Pattonesque posted:

also the new robbit is the Javelin

https://mwomercs.com/javelin

Pass

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

Pattonesque posted:

also the new robbit is the Javelin

https://mwomercs.com/javelin


Well, the 20$ is almost worth it for the new colors. THANKS PGI.

This thing doesn't look great. in fact, it looks pretty much exactly like a slower spider with less jumpjets and better hardpoints.

Lame that you have to buy hero/reinforcements to get arm weapons.

Javelin: I dub thee spider-cidada.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
The hardpoint layouts look kind of fun, except with only 30 tons you can't really do anything with them.

Q_res fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jan 18, 2017

Lonjon
Jun 26, 2007

Books are the real treasures of the world!
Fun Shoe
One of them has an ECM variant with 4 torso missile mounts. That one has some potential.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
it could function as kind of a jumpy oxide with torso missile hardpoints?

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
This thing is really just gonna be restricted to Streak spamming. Not entirely a bad thing but it will probably just take a sneeze to kill it.

Lonjon
Jun 26, 2007

Books are the real treasures of the world!
Fun Shoe
Except that one can't jump. :(

Dreadwroth
Dec 12, 2009

by R. Guyovich

Pattonesque posted:

Dad takes the kids for a walk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdQgTCKISyI


ALSO worth remembering: Kazvall gives a pubbie a conniption
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujg_IdvOf8Y

Man those are some good vids, makes me almost want to play again.... almost.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Lonjon posted:

Except that one can't jump. :(

I'm talking about the 10N, with JJs

the 10-P can do 6 SRM2 which could be fun -- let's see, XL 245 which leaves you at 142 KPH, strip armor from the arms and some from the head, 2 JJ, 6 SRM2, 6 tons of ammo? Could skimp on ammo, you may not need that much

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Pattonesque posted:

I'm talking about the 10N, with JJs

the 10-P can do 6 SRM2 which could be fun -- let's see, XL 245 which leaves you at 142 KPH, strip armor from the arms and some from the head, 2 JJ, 6 SRM2, 6 tons of ammo? Could skimp on ammo, you may not need that much

That's the first one I rushed to build! SRM2s are really tight even without Artemis, and the hardpoints look close together too, so it could be very interesting and perhaps replace the Oxide as an "assassin" light.

SDR-5K

You don't actually have room for a XL245 which requires an external heatsink. With a 255 and 6 x SRM2 you have seven slots and 5.5 tons to play with - either 1 JJ / 500 ammo or 2 JJ / 450 ammo. Your launchers consume 6 shots per second before cooldown bonuses, so I think 450 would be plenty (75 seconds of continuous fire is a pretty average ammo supply for a mech) and the second jump jet definitely useful for the role.

There's two variants with four missile slots, one with a higher engine cap and one with ECM, but I expect them to suck because they don't have the room for SRM4s and I know from BJ-1L experience that four streaks are still poo poo.

NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jan 18, 2017

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Pattonesque posted:

also the new robbit is the Javelin

https://mwomercs.com/javelin

lol no one wanted this

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

How the gently caress you gonna have "Piranha" in your drat company name and not release the drat Piranha

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Oh Snapple! posted:

How the gently caress you gonna have "Piranha" in your drat company name and not release the drat Piranha

something something cobbler's children have no shoes

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
I am :smug: to say I knew the mystery light wasn't going to be the Piranha.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Skoll posted:

I am :smug: to say I knew the mystery light wasn't going to be the Piranha.

it's too bad, people might have bought the piranha, instead of "fat guy leaning back'

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Fat guy leaning back describes 99% of the player base though?

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

Fat guy leaning back describes 99% of the player base though?

Good thing I use a *grabs megaphone* STANDING DESK THEN :smuggo:

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



I also am using a standing desk now because my 10 year old office chair broke after rolling around on carpet for the last couple years. Cinder blocks for the bottom of my desk were cheaper than a new chair

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Pattonesque posted:

also the new robbit is the Javelin

https://mwomercs.com/javelin

Ahahaha.

They turned what may be the fattest of the light `Mechs into the skinniest? I just don't understand PGI.



VVV Seriously, the one time PGI's typical "make it squat and fat" aesthetic would've worked and been appropriate and they didn't loving do it. :psyduck:

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jan 18, 2017

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

It's really too bad, because if it were fat at least it would be relatively small. Instead, because it's so lanky, it's probably going to have a *bigger* frontal profile than the Firestarter/Wolfhound.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
Javelin is gonna be as DOA as the Phoenix Hawk, calling it now.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
In actually interesting `Mech news, Warhansa released their version of the Kodiak (as well as the PGI Marauder, Archer, and Cyclops). As usual, it's got a pretty good name.

I've already got one on the way, so as soon as it gets here and I get it painted we'll see if the quality's any good. I'm expecting it'll be solid though, I've only received one `Mech from Warhansa that was poor quality (the Stalker).

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

PoptartsNinja posted:

In actually interesting `Mech news, Warhansa released their version of the Kodiak (as well as the PGI Marauder, Archer, and Cyclops). As usual, it's got a pretty good name.


Oh my god.

Phrosphor
Feb 25, 2007

Urbanisation

PGI don't release lights because 'nobody buys them'. Then they release a light that nobody wants to buy. Whats the bet this is the light for a goood while.

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

I JUST WANT TO BUY THE loving PIRANHA

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Oh Snapple! posted:

lol no one wanted this

I want the hatchetman :argh:.

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

JUST LET ME
gently caress

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
gently caress that, I want a Firebee.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Jackrabbit all the way.

If they're going to give us poo poo, it should at least be funny poo poo.

DeepThrobble
Sep 18, 2006
Some reworkings like the Cent I can get behind, but that torso is... not the flat, front-heavy hexagon I'm used to. Maybe if they extruded the missiles out in a more horizontal... oh wait, :pgi: .
Better luck next time with the Mongoose or Hussar, I guess?

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Skoll posted:

gently caress that, I want a Firebee.

You already have the Commando.

(The Firebee is an intentionally bad "throwback" mech, for anyone who doesn't know.)

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
I need to figure out how to record audio for this. Banano and I just had a bunch of pubbies have meltdowns over "the game is dieing." Also apparently I am now an "enemy of Merc Star" or whatever that means.

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veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe
Arent't they refusing to do the Piranha because somehow 12 machine guns is OP?

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