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Paul Zuvella posted:Also I legit got stuck in a puddle outside of novigrad for 20 minutes. I know, it's called Velen 
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Eopia posted:I'm sorry that you have the wrong opinion on Geralt's love life. Dr Cheeto posted:I know, it's called Velen
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Dr Cheeto posted:I know, it's called Velen This is what the jesters say on stage at the Chameleon, because whenever there's an actual Velenite in the audience, they can't throw rotten fruit, because that would be a feast for them.
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Jan 18, 2017 17:57
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Bicyclops posted:Triss is made of cardboard and Yen is actually cool, though. She's less cardboard if you play the first two games, but yeah, Yen is the clear choice after you go to Skellige. Particularly if you've read the books.
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redbackground posted:I just finished up the quest with Triss and the outdoor costume ball at that mansion to the east of Novigrad. There is absolutely no way I am not picking Triss at the end of all this, however it plays out. Should Geralt kiss her after scooping her up from falling into the fountain while fireworks go off? HMM LET ME THINK.
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I didn't because it just sort of felt like she was drunk and making a bad decision.
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Jan 18, 2017 18:02
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I didn't because I didn't want to kiss someone who took advantage of memory loss to steal their best friend's man.
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Jan 18, 2017 18:03
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Eopia posted:I didn't because I didn't want to kiss someone who took advantage of memory loss to steal their best friend's man. Wait, Triss and Yen are friends? That makes this way more interesting lmao. note: This is my first Witcher game.
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Jan 18, 2017 18:07
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2house2fly posted:Well, he's skipping Gwent, which would bring total playtime down to around 90 hours without the DLC. Im at 100 hours and nearing the end of act 1 based on what people have said. Done a ton of contracts and side quests but my quest log is still full of stuff and skellige is a pathwork of ?s. Thought I was a lot closer to the end! Then i started gwent last week and dropped everything to spend the last 8 or so hours running around playing everyone 
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The "no fall damage" mod is the best mod, by the way. Highly recommended.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Wait, Triss and Yen are friends? Yes, what you learn over the first 2 games as you reaver your memories is that while Triss did help geralt, she manipulated him in order to get with him. He remembered loving a sorceress, and she is all "I'm a sorceress..." Yen is understandably pissed since she and geralt are both near 100 years old and have decades of history.
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Jan 18, 2017 18:39
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Palpek posted:You can actually kiss Triss there and that still doesn't count as choosing her or cheating on Yen so everybody should do that. The Witcher 3: If the kiss doesn't count as cheating, everyone should do it I didn't know Geralt's last name was Trump.
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Jan 18, 2017 18:42
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Bicyclops posted:I didn't because it just sort of felt like she was drunk and making a bad decision. I've always thought that Triss was faking being drunk in that scene. She sobers up real quick afterwards, the whole falling into Geralt's arms thing seems too convenient, and it just seems like the sort of thing she would do. Plus she's really guilty about it even if you don't kiss her.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Yes, what you learn over the first 2 games as you reaver your memories is that while Triss did help geralt, she manipulated him in order to get with him. He remembered loving a sorceress, and she is all "I'm a sorceress..." Yen is understandably pissed since she and geralt are both near 100 years old and have decades of history. Holy gently caress, that certainly changes the way I look at Triss...
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Paul Zuvella posted:Holy gently caress, that certainly changes the way I look at Triss... Don't worry too much because Geralt and Yen had a VERY tumultuous relationship - breaking up and disappearing from each others' lives for years at a time before starting the cycle all over again.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Holy gently caress, that certainly changes the way I look at Triss... Drifter posted:Don't worry too much because Geralt and Yen had a VERY tumultuous relationship - breaking up and disappearing from each others' lives for years at a time before starting the cycle all over again. Speaking as a guy that was initially defending Triss but then thought back on it more, no, that's still not an excuse. Triss makes a focused effort to cloud Geralt's memory and prevent him from actually recovering his memories of Yennefer. If you look back at W1 and 2, she actually makes a very cold and calculated plan to supplant Yen and steal Geralt to herself, which fits more with her actual character from the books. She's kinda terrible, and I think a large part of why people go easy on her is not only not knowing the history and what she did, but also the fact that the voice actress is basically miscast in 2 and 3... she wasn't as endearing in 1, and she's not meant to be. Shani is the young, endearing love interest in 1, but then they hosed that up and shifted the tone in 2 (though she's still super antsy about letting Geralt anywhere near a rose of remembrance). I wonder if the Polish VA is better.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Holy gently caress, that certainly changes the way I look at Triss... Its alluded to be the reason Geralt and her are separated at the start of W3, Geralt dumped her and she moved to Novigrad, just in time for the purges to start. The W3 quests definitely give her a story of redemption though, and both romance story lines at least make sense. This thread leans toward Yen, as the devs do, but the Triss one still works just fine. Geralt changes his mind and decides on Triss anyway, given all the poo poo they went through in Witcher 1 and 2.
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It's telling that neither romance option actually respects Geralt and they both often lie to him, manipulate him, tell him half truths/cloud the truth, and regularly invade his privacy and read his mind (though Triss does that less). They also habitually shove him into danger as their personal blunt instrument, completely uncaring of his own safety. In Yen's case she at least justifies it as trusting in Geralt's ability and believing in him to get through it and live, but still.
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Fuzz posted:It's telling that neither romance option actually respects Geralt and they both often lie to him, manipulate him, tell him half truths/cloud the truth, and regularly invade his privacy and read his mind (though Triss does that less). that is the absolutely most negative way to look at it, yes.
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Jan 18, 2017 19:31
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Despite the manipulation it's pretty clear that by Witcher 2 that Triss's feelings are genuine.
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Jan 18, 2017 19:32
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WoodrowSkillson posted:that is the absolutely most negative way to look at it, yes. And loving someone but failing to respect their basic rights doesn't just make it all excusable. Both relationships are extremely toxic. Geralt isn't a winner, either, since he literally has no self control, even in the books, and will gently caress any woman (literally any) that crosses his path and is willing, and will flirt with all the others. All three of them are terrible people when it comes to relationships.
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Fuzz posted:and will gently caress any woman (literally any) that crosses This checks out with how I play The Witcher
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Dr Cheeto posted:Despite the manipulation it's pretty clear that by Witcher 2 that Triss's feelings are genuine. Oh well as long as her feelings are genuine I guess all the lies are ok. Hope her feelings don't change later!
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What Triss did to Geralt is nothing compared to what Geralt did to geralt from making the last wish thing.
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Yen is literally just as bad, if not worse, lol ^^That too
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Mzbundifund posted:Oh well as long as her feelings are genuine I guess all the lies are ok. Hope her feelings don't change later! I didn't say that nor do I believe it.
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Witcher's literally exist to take advantage of people who are suffering for their own financial gain so maybe Geralt kind of deserves it.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Witcher's literally exist to take advantage of people who are suffering for their own financial gain so maybe Geralt kind of deserves it. Uhhh, this is a Bad Take
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Rygar201 posted:Uhhh, this is a Bad Take I mean, what else are they doing? He is a super powered monster hunting sevant who literally refuses to help people who are literally dying without being payed. Like I understand it is way, way more complicated than that, but my point is that Geralt is pretty lovely to people too sometimes.
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Paul Zuvella posted:I mean, what else are they doing? He is a super powered monster hunting sevant who literally refuses to help people who are literally dying without being payed.
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redbackground posted:I mean, I helped that dude in the middle of the griffon attack in the first few minutes of the game without receiving a cent. I did 
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Paul Zuvella posted:Witcher's literally exist to take advantage of people who are suffering for their own financial gain so maybe Geralt kind of deserves it. Lambert player spotted.
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I wonder if there are people who pair Geralt and Renfri together.
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guns for tits posted:I wonder if there are people who pair Geralt and Renfri together. Duh, she wore cambric. She is a princess after all. That was the funniest part of that story for me. She breaks into his room to bribe him to leave, threatens to kill him if he doesn't, ends up sleeping with him.
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Paul Zuvella posted:I mean, what else are they doing? He is a super powered monster hunting sevant who literally refuses to help people who are literally dying without being payed. They don't get paid, they can't buy supplies. They can't buy supplies, they can't work. Witchers are just exceptionally tough dudes, they don't have laser beam eyes or anything (aside from the regrettable case that was Zacharie of Vinhelm from the Viper School some 300 years prior, bad mixup with the mutagens, so many dead, no one really likes to talk about it)
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Fuzz posted:Speaking as a guy that was initially defending Triss but then thought back on it more, no, that's still not an excuse. Umm, you might need to replay the Witcher 2. After you remember your death, Geralt asks Triss to tell you everything about Yen and Ciri, and she does. Pretty much all of Geralt's memories up to his death are relayed by Triss. Later she tries to persuade you not to go after Letho, and instead suggests that she'd help you find Yen if she's still alive. That doesn't sound like someone who is plotting to steal Geralt from a friend who, up until that point in time, everyone assumed was dead anyway. Honestly, I think most of the Triss is a master-villain meme is a result of the weirdness of the Witcher 1's relationship to the novels. The game is chock full of references, like Geralt literally using lines from the book, mentioning Codringer and Fenn, Alvin being a Ciri stand-in, etc.. At the same time, no one, not even Dandelion or Zoltan. mention anything about Yen or Ciri in spite of being there when they died. For all intents and purposes, it's like they never existed. So it ends up with people saying Triss concealed the past, when in reality it has more to do with a weird narrative decision by the designers that I still don't understand. A while back in the thread, I think Comte mentioned that it was possible that someone who worked on the first game just didn't like Yen, and that's why she's memory-holed, but I don't know if that's the real reason. That's not to say that Triss doesn't use Geralt (she admits it at the end of the Witcher 2), or her being the Nice Guy pining away for the person she would be so much better for isn't a little weird, but I just don't think there's anything we see in the games that indicate she was maliciously hiding things from Geralt. Team Yen, btw.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Duh, she wore cambric. She is a princess after all. What about the part where the wizard starts obsessing over the cilia or whatever in her brain? "She's a mutant, witcher. You have to kill her."
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Paul Zuvella posted:Holy gently caress, that certainly changes the way I look at Triss... Look at it like this, Geralt doesn't seem too mad at her so why should you be? Paul Zuvella posted:Witcher's literally exist to take advantage of people who are suffering for their own financial gain so maybe Geralt kind of deserves it. Did you do that one quest where Geralt completely independently investigates some deaths and finds a monster, then after killing it he finds the village it was terrorising and demands that they pay him? lol 2house2fly fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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Paul Zuvella posted:Wait, Triss and Yen are friends? mods please change title tia
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