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seiferguy posted:The infield is good, outfield is questionable. Cutch is alright, but not a good defender. Adam Jones is good but by no means elite. They haven't really announced their starting pitching besides a few guys, but Chris Archer, your starting ace, doesn't ring well. Apparently Kershaw wants to play, though. Also, notably absent are Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, and Kris Bryant. I would hope at least one of Trout, Bryant, or Stanton would play, and any of them would obviously round out the outfield just fine. The rotation is underwhelming but they really haven't announced anyone yet, like you said. Have to hold off judgement until they submit the final rosters (whenever that is, the WBC website is terrible)
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This whole #nooffseason thing that the MLB Twitter account is pushing is dumb as poo poo. Today is apparently "10 tweets of Trea Turner throwing medicine balls" day.
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Popete posted:Matheny believes in a faith based approach to base stealing. The players just need to believe they are fast. Well they do wear red...
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ZenVulgarity posted:Oh it wasn't off of a mound, it was off of a crow hop Also he wasn't throwing a baseball.
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iospace posted:Well they do wear red... Well Hell, in that case I believe I'm the world's greatest baseball player and I should get paid as such.
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Popete posted:Matheny believes in a faith based approach to base stealing. The players just need to believe they are fast. Maybe they can hire someone to watch them on tv and pray for them when they run. coronaball posted:I would hope at least one of Trout, Bryant, or Stanton would play, and any of them would obviously round out the outfield just fine. The rotation is underwhelming but they really haven't announced anyone yet, like you said. Have to hold off judgement until they submit the final rosters (whenever that is, the WBC website is terrible) Meanwhile, Korea has like a 40 man roster listed on Wikipedia.
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ZenVulgarity posted:Oh it wasn't off of a mound, it was off of a crow hop
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Bagwell looks like a lock to finally get in, years after he should have, so naturally he's not going to and I'm going to lose my loving mind
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Intruder posted:Bagwell looks like a lock to finally get in, years after he should have, so naturally he's not going to and I'm going to lose my loving mind This but Hoffman.
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bawfuls posted:also an under-weight ball So pretty much it was like a less-impressive version of Aaron Hicks throw from LF? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkYrT5arGVw
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I see a few guys who voted for steroid guys but not Bagwell and didn't use all ten votes, gently caress those guys
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iospace posted:This but Hoffman. Hoffman doesn't look like a lock, he's sitting at 72.8% in the public ballots and it tends to go down after the private ballots are counted. Bagwell and Raines look to be the class this year
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Man, its looking like Pudge won't make it? The hell? Pretty neat about Raines though, bout drat time.
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Oh I missed Pudge. He has a shot, but he's below 80% so who knows. It would take some really bad poo poo for Bagwell at 88.2 and Raines at 88.6 to not make it
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One last update from the ballot tracker. Here's how things stand with an estimated 56% of the ballots in. Raines 88.6% Bagwell 88.2% Rodriguez 79.3% Hoffman 72.8% Guerrero 72.0% Martinez 65.9% Bonds 64.2% Clemens 63.4% Raines and Bagwell are locks; Pudge, Hoffman and Vlad are too close to call. Unreleased ballots tend to skew towards old school writers; the PED guys and "advanced stats" cases (Edgar) usually do worse in the final vote, while old-school favorites like Hoffman with his SAVES do better. Prediction: Raines, Bagwell, Pudge, Hoffman. Vlad just misses.
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bewbies posted:Man, its looking like Pudge won't make it? The hell? "I'll vote for him, but he's not first ballot" - BBWAA writers
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Julio Cruz posted:"I'll vote for him, but he's not first ballot" - BBWAA writers I expected less of this poo poo after the purge Also I think Murray Chass's vote should be taken away
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bewbies posted:Man, its looking like Pudge won't make it? The hell?
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Intruder posted:Hoffman doesn't look like a lock, he's sitting at 72.8% in the public ballots and it tends to go down after the private ballots are counted. Bagwell and Raines look to be the class this year someone did an article about this and Hoffman is probably going to go up because SAEVZ Meanwhile Wagner is struggling to stay on the ballot 
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I literally don't understand how anyone who was cool with voting for steroid players leave Bagwell off despite not using all ten votes
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IcePhoenix posted:Meanwhile Wagner is struggling to stay on the ballot Posada isn't even going to get a second year and that's bullshit. I would love to see Moose jump up another 15% this year, though, since the odds of him actually getting in seem slim.
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Mussina is another guy I don't get....what exactly is the argument or whatever for not voting for that guy?
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Gregor Blanco signed a minors deal with the DBacks. I think he has a chance to make that roster and I think he has some baseballing left in him. Take care Gregor. We'll always have the catch.
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bewbies posted:Mussina is another guy I don't get....what exactly is the argument or whatever for not voting for that guy? He didn't get to certain arbitrary benchmarks and his numbers get called "Hall of Very Good" until you realize he played in the AL East during the highest offense period ever(?)
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Intruder posted:Hoffman doesn't look like a lock, he's sitting at 72.8% in the public ballots and it tends to go down after the private ballots are counted. Bagwell and Raines look to be the class this year Here's my question, why won't they vote for him? He's 2nd all time for saves, first to break 600, but is it the lack of a ring that's making it hard for him?
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The Pussy Boss posted:Gregor Blanco signed a minors deal with the DBacks. I think he has a chance to make that roster and I think he has some baseballing left in him. On the other hand, he probably took a year off my life. I don't know if I've ever been so horrified during a play in any sport. http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/63106348/v36878067/ws2014-gm7-gordon-singles-takes-third-on-error Something I never noticed before, Buster starts running out to hug Bumgarner because he thinks the ball's going to be caught.
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iospace posted:Here's my question, why won't they vote for him? He's 2nd all time for saves, first to break 600, but is it the lack of a ring that's making it hard for him? I think some voters are waiting till Mariano gets in as the first of the "closer era" before they start voting for Hoffman and seriously considering guys like Wagner.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Mariano Rivera will be the first unanimous hall of fame getter-inner You say that but given how badly modern SP's have been squeezed out because the game no longer demands they go all nine every game, it wouldn't surprise me if some shithead voter leaves Mariano off the ballot because "relievers don't belong in the hall."
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Paul Zuvella posted:Mariano Rivera will be the first unanimous hall of fame getter-inner I'll believe that one when I see it. If Griffey couldn't, I don't think anyone else has a chance to do so.
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Inspector_666 posted:I would love to see Moose jump up another 15% this year, though, since the odds of him actually getting in seem slim. This is only Moose's, what, fourth year on the ballot? He's got plenty of time, since we're past that run of a couple of years where the ballots were just incredibly stacked. Notable adds coming up: This year: Thome, Rolen, Chipper, Andruw Jones and then a whole bunch of guys who are borderline at best Next year: Rivera, Pettite and some borderline cases in Helton and Halladay Year after: Jeter, Abreu, Giambi And guys like McGriff, Walker and Edgar are going to be falling off soon without a huge voting boost. Paul Zuvella posted:Mariano Rivera will be the first unanimous hall of fame getter-inner There are still assholes who return blank ballots as a Pete Rose protest, and guys who think that if Ruth didn't get 100 percent, no one should. And if neither Seaver nor Maddux got 100, there's no way Rivera gets it. Jeter would be more likely because YEAH JEETS.
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iospace posted:Here's my question, why won't they vote for him? He's 2nd all time for saves, first to break 600, but is it the lack of a ring that's making it hard for him? 1st ballot He's a reliever There were relievers who didn't finish games who were better than him
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Timby posted:This is only Moose's, what, fourth year on the ballot? He's got plenty of time, since we're past that run of a couple of years where the ballots were just incredibly stacked. Notable adds coming up: Oh yeah, I don't doubt he'll get in now, just a matter of time. I just liked seeing his voting percentage pretty much double after The Purge, and would like to see another big jump just to ease my mind. Paul Zuvella posted:Mariano Rivera will be the first unanimous hall of fame getter-inner 
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Timby posted:This is only Moose's, what, fourth year on the ballot? He's got plenty of time, since we're past that run of a couple of years where the ballots were just incredibly stacked. Notable adds coming up: Jester may get up there, I'd think Albert would have a shot at 100% in a just world, but the blank ballot assholes will deny me that.
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Inspector_666 posted:He didn't get to certain arbitrary benchmarks and his numbers get called "Hall of Very Good" until you realize he played in the AL East during the highest offense period ever(?) He's jack Morris but with the argument which holds water
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Pancakes posted:Jester may get up there, I'd think Albert would have a shot at 100% in a just world, but the blank ballot assholes will deny me that. Albert's probably first-ballot, but he's not going to be near 100%, people are going to remember his good-to-average (and maybe worse) seasons in LA more than his elite ones in St Louis.
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Hoffman is probably not getting in this year but I could see him making it next time. There is going to be a major glut soon of players if they keep only electing 1-2 at a time
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ZenVulgarity posted:He's jack Morris but with the argument which holds water There's also this, which should have guaranteed him 100%: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhOdDBCfKV8
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