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TheWevel posted:edit: All I'm saying is the the newish Mustang seems like a good base to make a sedan with. Kill the Fusion. It's ugly and way too boring. In brown too please
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:What's with the drivers headrest on the VW? It's the same as the passenger one but the leather's loosened up? 
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Jan 18, 2017 17:49
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In a promo shot? Seems odd.
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I think the sides bend to "mold" around the back of your head. The rear ones seem to do it too, but they are laid flat.
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Jan 18, 2017 18:13
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savesthedayrocks posted:I think the sides bend to "mold" around the back of your head. The rear ones seem to do it too, but they are laid flat. Similar to some airplane seats, I think. That thing will sell more examples than the manual Golf Sportwagen AWD in the US.
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Jan 18, 2017 19:40
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Nodoze posted:Digital gauges own. That new mustang looks huge though I like physical ones more, but everything is electronic these days anyway so it's not like there's really a difference. 
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Jan 18, 2017 21:26
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I like physical ones more, but everything is electronic these days anyway so it's not like there's really a difference. Digital means they can use the same LCD as every other car they sell, instead of having different physical objects with different typefaces for each model.
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Jan 18, 2017 21:43
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Digital means they can use the same LCD as every other car they sell, instead of having different physical objects with different typefaces for each model. Yeah, but what I was attempting to say is that my ingrained notions that physical ones are "better" or "more reliable" than all electronic/lcd ones is largely erroneous because all the physical ones are electronic to begin with, they aren't analog at all.
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Jan 18, 2017 21:46
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Yeah, but what I was attempting to say is that my ingrained notions that physical ones are "better" or "more reliable" than all electronic/lcd ones is largely erroneous because all the physical ones are electronic to begin with, they aren't analog at all. The 2012 Mustangs did something really slick with the backlighting on the tachometer, in that the backlighting would flash bright red if you hit the redline. https://i.bf1c.us/vines/videos/1147180104804438016.mp4
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Yeah, but what I was attempting to say is that my ingrained notions that physical ones are "better" or "more reliable" than all electronic/lcd ones is largely erroneous because all the physical ones are electronic to begin with, they aren't analog at all. Growing up in an age where the first digital speedometers were less than reliable tends to color your outlook on today's digital gauge clusters, even if they're 100x more reliable.
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Jan 18, 2017 22:00
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Digital means they can use the same LCD as every other car they sell, instead of having different physical objects with different typefaces for each model. It also means you can customize them quite a bit. I liked that about the Cherokee display.
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Jan 18, 2017 22:02
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Cocoa Crispies posted:The 2012 Mustangs did something really slick with the backlighting on the tachometer, in that the backlighting would flash bright red if you hit the redline. The s550(2015+) dash still does this. Also you can set the dash to be any color when your lights are on.
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Jan 18, 2017 22:53
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Digital speedos would also be nice in cities like Chicago where there are speed cameras set up over much of the city that automatically send a ticket in the mail if you are radared going just 5 MPH over the speed limit.  I find it totally dangerous in these areas because I am staring/glancing at my speedo needle like a hawk every second when I am near a camera to keep from getting tagged. (I've been tagged before, it is such a frustrating sinking feeling to see that camera flash away your money)
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Right now no one is doing the LCD dash better than Audi. Virtual Cockpit really is amazing. Curious to see the 2.0 version in the A8; I wonder how google earth is going to look with their new UI though. Edit: no idea why I quoted that post.
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Buhbuhj posted:The s550(2015+) dash still does this. Also you can set the dash to be any color when your lights are on. Do you have the premium interior? My '12 premium has that, but the '16 I rented didn't.
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Buhbuhj posted:The s550(2015+) dash still does this. Also you can set the dash to be any color when your lights are on. Not if you don't have the premium pack.. 😒
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Mazda apparently doing some weird diesel poo poo with their gas motors next year? http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/news/a32301/mazda-gasoline-engine-compression-ignition-skyactiv/ Anyone have any idea what this would mean in a practical sense?
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A Proper Uppercut posted:Mazda apparently doing some weird diesel poo poo with their gas motors next year? Best hope they engineered it right.
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A Proper Uppercut posted:Mazda apparently doing some weird diesel poo poo with their gas motors next year? If i had to guess, i would imagine HPFP problems every 30,000 miles
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Jan 19, 2017 01:09
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I thought Infiniti wanted to be the Japanese BMW.
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I hope I'm wrong, but that sounds like a reliability disaster waiting to happen...
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Jan 19, 2017 01:14
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GM had prototypes of such an engine running around 5 or 10 years ago. The problem is the same problem the diesels have - high compression ratios produce too many NOx emissions and you would need at least urea injection to keep them compliant. IIRC GM decided it wasn't worth the effort and expense for a minor improvement in fuel economy.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I thought Infiniti wanted to be the Japanese BMW. No; Infiniti is Nissan, which is the Chrysler of Japan. So I guess the best Infiniti could be is... Plymouth? Does Chrysler even have a luxury brand that wasn't imported from Fiat?
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Throatwarbler posted:GM had prototypes of such an engine running around 5 or 10 years ago. The problem is the same problem the diesels have - high compression ratios produce too many NOx emissions and you would need at least urea injection to keep them compliant. IIRC GM decided it wasn't worth the effort and expense for a minor improvement in fuel economy. Don't know if it's true, but Mazda is claiming 30% better economy.
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Raluek posted:No; Infiniti is Nissan, which is the Chrysler of Japan. So I guess the best Infiniti could be is... Plymouth? Does Chrysler even have a luxury brand that wasn't imported from Fiat? Looking at just the American brands, Chrysler IS Chrysler's luxury brand. It was always upmarket of Dodge and Plymouth.
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Q_res posted:Looking at just the American brands, Chrysler IS Chrysler's luxury brand. It was always upmarket of Dodge and Plymouth. Haha, that's kind of funny to think of. Chrysler, trying to be luxury. I can accept them being their Oldsmobile, but I don't imagine they'd ever be able to pull off a Cadillac.
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Throatwarbler posted:GM had prototypes of such an engine running around 5 or 10 years ago. The problem is the same problem the diesels have - high compression ratios produce too many NOx emissions and you would need at least urea injection to keep them compliant. IIRC GM decided it wasn't worth the effort and expense for a minor improvement in fuel economy. GM also decided the 25 cent ignition switch fix wasn't worth the effort and expense for a minor improvement in survivability.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:The 2012 Mustangs did something really slick with the backlighting on the tachometer, in that the backlighting would flash bright red if you hit the redline. Buhbuhj posted:The s550(2015+) dash still does this. Also you can set the dash to be any color when your lights are on.
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I really hate how digital dashes light up your face at night and one of the recent-ish (2014?) mercedes I drove had the speedo be just the tip of the needle and seemingly not as well lit as the rest of the dash so I just used the digital speedo because the analog one was impossible to pick up in peripheral vision. They need to bring back saab's night mode for picky assholes like me, I guess. Or eventually this problem might be solved when we all have oled panels as standard?
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Raluek posted:No; Infiniti is Nissan, which is the Chrysler of Japan. So I guess the best Infiniti could be is... Plymouth? Does Chrysler even have a luxury brand that wasn't imported from Fiat?  Infiniti's Boss Wants The Brand To Be The Japanese Answer To BMW
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drgitlin posted:Right now no one is doing the LCD dash better than Audi. Virtual Cockpit really is amazing. Curious to see the 2.0 version in the A8; I wonder how google earth is going to look with their new UI though. I got dragged around to all the car dealers with my dad over winter break and the q5 was really shameful, same thing with the qx70 (infiniti). Looking now I guess the big technology upgrade for it is in 2018 and TBA for infiniti.
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Except that guy's at Cadillac now
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Q_res posted:Except that guy's at Cadillac now Now he's trying to make Cadillac the American Japanese BMW.
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Raluek posted:Haha, that's kind of funny to think of. Chrysler, trying to be luxury. I can accept them being their Oldsmobile, but I don't imagine they'd ever be able to pull off a Cadillac. They used to have the Imperial line as their Cadillac equivalent, but it withered and died by 1980 or so. The name reappeared briefly in the 90s, but as just a model name.
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Well now you can buy a Maserati with a Dodge Caravan engine so it all worked out in the end.
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Q_res posted:Looking at just the American brands, Chrysler IS Chrysler's luxury brand. It was always upmarket of Dodge and Plymouth. remember, Chrysler is America's Import!
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Q_res posted:Except that guy's at Cadillac now Which explains why Cadillac is now trying to be the Japanese version of BMW. Narrower cars, over engineered, maintenance nightmares and the SUV is by far the top selling model.
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hifi posted:I really hate how digital dashes light up your face at night and one of the recent-ish (2014?) mercedes I drove had the speedo be just the tip of the needle and seemingly not as well lit as the rest of the dash so I just used the digital speedo because the analog one was impossible to pick up in peripheral vision. I want to turn off the dash too! My VWs touchscreen was so bright even at the dimmest setting it would be distracting.
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Raluek posted:Haha, that's kind of funny to think of. Chrysler, trying to be luxury. I can accept them being their Oldsmobile, but I don't imagine they'd ever be able to pull off a Cadillac. Imperial.
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Raluek posted:Haha, that's kind of funny to think of. Chrysler, trying to be luxury. I can accept them being their Oldsmobile, but I don't imagine they'd ever be able to pull off a Cadillac. Imperial Edit: 
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