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Goku | 202 | 7.09% | |
Vegeta | 279 | 9.79% | |
Krillin | 208 | 7.30% | |
Piccolo or his nameks | 212 | 7.44% | |
Gohan or Cool Gohan | 135 | 4.74% | |
Yamcha | 90 | 3.16% | |
Tien | 120 | 4.21% | |
Muten Roshi | 89 | 3.12% | |
Tao Pai Pai | 71 | 2.49% | |
Frieza | 69 | 2.42% | |
Cell or an android | 86 | 3.02% | |
Buu | 62 | 2.18% | |
Hercule "Mark" Satan | 327 | 11.48% | |
Videl | 90 | 3.16% | |
Bulma | 104 | 3.65% | |
Yajirobe | 99 | 3.47% | |
Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy | 68 | 2.39% | |
King kai or another kai | 53 | 1.86% | |
Chi-Chi | 83 | 2.91% | |
Goten | 43 | 1.51% | |
Trunks or Cool Trunks | 112 | 3.93% | |
Bardock | 48 | 1.68% | |
Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) | 41 | 1.44% | |
Uub | 42 | 1.47% | |
Oolong | 90 | 3.16% | |
Zamasu | 26 | 0.91% | |
Total: | 1326 votes |
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ImpAtom posted:And failed miserably. In fact somehow dedicating himself entirely to his training AND having all his friends and family murdered in front of him meant he was weaker than 12 year old Gohan was. I think the assumption was the future androids were much much more powerful. That, and Future Gohan lost one of his arms in a fight too.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 00:01 |
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# ? May 22, 2024 02:06 |
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Shinjobi posted:He won't be a Yamcha, since there are plenty of weaker fighters on the team. he will be if his role is to set someone else up later in the tournament. that's literally yamcha's role in dragon ball. yamcha loses to jackie chun in the quarter finals loses to tien in the quarter finals loses to kami in the quarter finals like that's his entire thing seiferguy posted:I think the assumption was the future androids were much much more powerful. That, and Future Gohan lost one of his arms in a fight too. trunks literally says that the androids from his time were weaker than present day 17 and 18
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 00:01 |
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seiferguy posted:I think the assumption was the future androids were much much more powerful. That, and Future Gohan lost one of his arms in a fight too. I think trunks said that the androids from the main universe were more powerful than the ones he fought in the future.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 00:03 |
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ImpAtom posted:And failed miserably. In fact somehow dedicating himself entirely to his training AND having all his friends and family murdered in front of him meant he was weaker than 12 year old Gohan was. The series has always kinda pushed training by yourself not doing a whole lot. Gohan didn't have anyone to help him train, and then he had to go and help Trunks in his timeline, wheras in the main one Goku was still around. Sure it's kinda silly, but Dragonball really likes its mentor characters. Also, him having such a tragic end is kinda why I think it's interesting how different present Gohan's life is. He gets to have a nice family in this timeline instead of struggling in a hopeless fight.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 00:05 |
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Gohan will probably lose his poo poo and get super strong this arc, it owns
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 00:10 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:trunks literally says that the androids from his time were weaker than present day 17 and 18 Oh, right, he did. Maybe Gohan needed to visit King Kai or something, cause I can't quite figure out that one then.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 00:10 |
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Gohan trained for like 5 years straight with Goku. The timeskip between Goku arrival and Android arrival was non stop training and then he spent another year in the time chamber. Future Gohan by comparison probably only read books after Goku came back.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 00:25 |
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My only problem with Gohan's post Buu characterization is how little he seems to have been effected by that arc. Considering the whole planet died under what was essentially his watch because he stopped training at all. I mean, he had to do the dumb ritual with Old Kai to rectify this exact problem, but then again that was from when Gohan was still the main character of the Buu arc right up until he wasn't. Then again, he still had his ultimate transformation whenever beerus first turned up, so his downgrade is relatively more recent timeline wise. What I'm saying is Super's timeline as well as Gohan's power is really wonky and dumb, but really both Videl and his characters in super make a whole lot of sense when you realize they both had basically the same upbringing that they both didn't really get a choice in: Mr Satan's false image of the world's Savior and Goku actually being that many times over. Come Super, both have been released from that obligation more or less, with Videl knowing the truth of her father's lie/ just how out of her league she is and with Goku coming back to life and apparently intent on doing his thing for the foreseeable future. Them basically going "well gently caress it, were just going to have a happy normal life with our kid and green dad" really makes the most sense.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 00:42 |
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gohan's "power level" is entirely a matter of narrative convenience, as with all characters
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 01:39 |
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Frieza's power level is 530,000.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 02:13 |
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projecthalaxy posted:Frieza's power level is 530,000.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 02:17 |
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But Broly's power level is maximum.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 02:26 |
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if Broly's power level is maximum, who's power level is minimum?
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 02:28 |
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Kelp Plankton posted:if Broly's power level is maximum, who's power level is minimum? The Farmer.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 02:37 |
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Oolong
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 02:42 |
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Can you have a negative Power Level?
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 02:45 |
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Maybe Devilman when using his beam on Goku?
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 02:48 |
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Kelp Plankton posted:if Broly's power level is maximum, who's power level is minimum? The blind kid that Buu tricked into cannibalism
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 06:20 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:He's just so boring as a fighter. He's smart as gently caress, why not make him the guy that does technique fake-outs? Something like he bluffs a charging Kamehameha, then just punches the guy in the face with a fist full of energy.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 06:23 |
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Gohan should have needed math that Chi-chi forced him to learn in order to defeat Cell.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 06:31 |
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TheKingofSprings posted:He's smart as gently caress, why not make him the guy that does technique fake-outs? Because that is Goku. Goku is pretty smart when it comes to techniques. Remember him tricking Frieza with the frozen underwater Kamehameha or doing the warp blast on Cell or whatnot? Gohan has never been the smart fighter. He's been the dude who is powerful as poo poo and gets by entirely on that. Goku is the guy who is clever and tricky.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 06:34 |
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all this talk about gohan and nobody spares a thought for the rad Tracksuit Androids
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 07:50 |
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frankly them getting to do anything at all is such a massive step up that I have nothing to say beyond "hey cool 17 and 18 get to do something" gohan could still go either way. it's not like he hasn't been built up into massive disappointment before
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 07:53 |
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I wish Gohan had a purple gi with some orange in it.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 10:01 |
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ImpAtom posted:Honestly I never quite got why Future Gohan wasn't a frigging god. 7 years of nonstop training and tons of trauma and motivation really should have at least made him Android level, especially when you consider Future 17/18 were supposed to be weaker than main timeline version. Future Gohan was stronger than 17 & 18 individually. He just couldn't handle both of them together.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 10:52 |
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sassassin posted:Future Gohan was stronger than 17 & 18 individually. He just couldn't handle both of them together. okay lets power level chat Given that those androids were weaker than the ones in the main timeline and Piccolo was around even with/maybe slightly stronger than main 17 that means Future Gohan and Kamiccolo should be fairly close in power. In super saiyan terms that probably means he was stronger than Goku and Vegeta before they went into the time chamber for the first time but not as strong as their post-time-chamber exit where they had done the whole surpassing a super saiyan thing. Bushmaori fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Jan 19, 2017 |
# ? Jan 19, 2017 11:46 |
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Bushmaori posted:okay lets power level chat no, trunks could also fight them individually but was overwhelmed by their combination; he even says as much. all of the super saiyans were about on par with one another before the time chamber and kamiccolo was way stronger than any of them tho the only real points of comparison for the saiyans are via trunks (ie, he easily kills freeza and claims goku could have done the same, he also is as easily dispatched by 17 and 18 as vegeta, and has the same amount of trouble as future gohan against the androids from his timeline)
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 12:07 |
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Basically goku was a dick for not telling gohan about the time chamber which would solve everything
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 12:50 |
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sassassin posted:Future Gohan was stronger than 17 & 18 individually. He just couldn't handle both of them together. Anime only. In the manga 17 tells Govan he wasn't even fighting at half strength when the last time they tussled and it immediately smash cuts to Trunks waking up and finding Gohan dead.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 13:04 |
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Pureauthor posted:Anime only. In the manga 17 tells Govan he wasn't even fighting at half strength when the last time they tussled and it immediately smash cuts to Trunks waking up and finding Gohan dead. People say that sort of thing all the time, it's usually bluster. "These saibamen are all as strong as Raditz" "Namek will explode in 5 minutes" "Krillin and Goku are best friends" Toryama prefers the anime Trunks timeline anyway.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 13:22 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:no, trunks could also fight them individually but was overwhelmed by their combination; he even says as much Where does he say this? I guess I missed it.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 13:29 |
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Bushmaori posted:In super saiyan terms that probably means he was stronger than Goku and Vegeta before they went into the time chamber for the first time but not as strong as their post-time-chamber exit where they had done the whole surpassing a super saiyan thing. Before Gohan goes off to fight the androids the last time, he says to Trunks that he wishes he were as strong as his dad had been (and remember, this Goku didn't train in preperation for the android fight). Could just be a figure of speech though.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 15:06 |
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Gohan's failures include accurately estimating how strong his dad is.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 15:53 |
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Kelp Plankton posted:if Broly's power level is maximum, who's power level is minimum? This was actually explained in DBZ when Bulma snagged Radditz's scouter: It's Turtle, who has a power level of .001. For reference, a regular non human has a power level of 5.
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# ? Jan 19, 2017 17:28 |
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Bushmaori posted:Where does he say this? I guess I missed it. when they show up and kick everyone's rear end he mentions that that he could take them together in the future but the present versions were more powerful
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# ? Jan 20, 2017 00:10 |
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seiferguy posted:This was actually explained in DBZ when Bulma snagged Radditz's scouter: It's Turtle, who has a power level of .001. For reference, a regular non human has a power level of 5. and yet he survived the androids and all the other bullshit that happened to the Trunksverse until Zamasu showed up.
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# ? Jan 20, 2017 01:02 |
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I can't believe Commander Red is gonna be our President tomorrow.
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# ? Jan 20, 2017 03:16 |
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HitTheTargets posted:I can't believe Commander Red is gonna be our President tomorrow. His first order as Commander-in-Chief will be to collect the Dragon Balls so he can wish for bigger hands.
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# ? Jan 20, 2017 03:54 |
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I hope Goku comes back from other world to kick his rear end and legalize weed.
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# ? Jan 20, 2017 08:46 |
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# ? May 22, 2024 02:06 |
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https://twitter.com/LifeAsADabber/status/762705230148407296
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# ? Jan 20, 2017 08:48 |