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A Proper Uppercut posted:Mazda apparently doing some weird diesel poo poo with their gas motors next year? I'm continually impressed at Mazda's engineering prowess considering they're the lone wolf in the auto world these days. I really hope this turns out to be amazing because if it's a huge gently caress up it would be pretty damaging to the company. I'm curious how they'll handle the NOx problem. Edit: The Skyactiv 2.5 is a very nice engine. I thought it had a decent amount of midrange oomph last time I drove a 6. They're paired with an awesome automatic and get really good gas mileage. Mental Hospitality fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Jan 19, 2017 |
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Mental Hospitality posted:I'm continually impressed at Mazda's engineering prowess considering they're the lone wolf in the auto world these days. I really hope this turns out to be amazing because if it's a huge gently caress up it would be pretty damaging to the company. I'm curious how they'll handle the NOx problem. I wish they had the $$ to expand the 2.5 into an I-6.
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Mental Hospitality posted:I'm continually impressed at Mazda's engineering prowess considering they're the lone wolf in the auto world these days. I really hope this turns out to be amazing because if it's a huge gently caress up it would be pretty damaging to the company. I'm curious how they'll handle the NOx problem. It pulls pretty well above 3.5k in the right gear but god dammit, I'd kill for a turbo.
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The 6 I had as a rental was extremely nice and got shockingly good fuel economy (like, 35 mpg on a long highway drive). Handled ok, had decent power, decent interior. Honestly if I was in the market for an appliance that would be a hard choice to pass up.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:It pulls pretty well above 3.5k in the right gear but god dammit, I'd kill for a turbo. Yeah, going from a first gen turbo to the current 2.5 was a bit of a shock. The new six speed is brilliant though.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:The 6 I had as a rental was extremely nice and got shockingly good fuel economy (like, 35 mpg on a long highway drive). Handled ok, had decent power, decent interior. Honestly if I was in the market for an appliance that would be a hard choice to pass up. The only reason I passed on the 6 and leased a Fusion was because here in Ford Country (Detroit) I got an amazing deal on the Fusion. The Ford is a great car, but I think the Mazda felt better engineered. Wistful of Dollars posted:I wish they had the $$ to expand the 2.5 into an I-6. I think a Skyactiv V6 would be pretty neat. It'd probably get good mileage and sound brilliant. Take me back to my MX-6 days. Mental Hospitality fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Jan 19, 2017 |
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Jan 19, 2017 05:50
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But who mourns for the 1.8L V6?
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After owning thirsty Mazda after thirsty Mazda, all this talk of great fuel economy from their cars is surprising. I had two proteges, two miatas, and a v6 mazda 6 and they all got lovely mileage. The 6 in particular had the distinction of being both thirsty and slow. Granted, my newest mazda was an 08, so there you go.
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CharlesM posted:But who mourns for the 1.8L V6? I do IMO small displacement turbo v6 is one of my favorite engine configs and i long for a turbo mx6. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Jan 19, 2017 |
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I wish they had the $$ to expand the 2.5 into an I-6. dope lemme just build a technological dead end engine with horrible packaging requirements for no reason
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:I want to turn off the dash too! My VWs touchscreen was so bright even at the dimmest setting it would be distracting. If I flip the dimmer on my Dodge at night, the gauges and the touchscreen dim a lot - so much that they're kind of hard to see if it's dawn or dusk and the lights are on. At night though, it's significantly better. If I flip it back to normal mode it's drat near blinding. I think it's a pretty effective night mode.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:The 6 I had as a rental was extremely nice and got shockingly good fuel economy (like, 35 mpg on a long highway drive). Handled ok, had decent power, decent interior. Honestly if I was in the market for an appliance that would be a hard choice to pass up. 35mpg out of a 4cyl midsized sedan on the highway isn't all that special these days.
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BloodBag posted:After owning thirsty Mazda after thirsty Mazda, all this talk of great fuel economy from their cars is surprising. I had two proteges, two miatas, and a v6 mazda 6 and they all got lovely mileage. The 6 in particular had the distinction of being both thirsty and slow. Granted, my newest mazda was an 08, so there you go. I had a first-gen Mazda3 and the mileage was pretty good but not spectacular. I think the mileage really got a boost when they rolled out the SkyActiv engines/transmissions.
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It's not just the engine/trans either for the sky active cars. Look at the weight of a Mazda 3/6 vs. the competition as well. They're always the lightest in their respective class now.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:dope lemme just build a technological dead end engine with horrible packaging requirements for no reason
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Also make it a diesel and put in in a Sportswagon.
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I hope the current Mazda3 is selling well; seems to just be a great vehicle in all respects and I kinda love Mazda for bringing us the Mazdaspeed3 and the MX-5 (and the weird tiny-van 5). The G-Vectoring Control thing they're incorporating into the current 3 and some other cars is neat- kinda cuts the throttle ever-so-slightly when you turn the wheel to a certain degree to load up the front tires/suspension a bit and give you a little more direct control.
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Jan 19, 2017 16:10
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It does well here. The 3 is a great car.
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Yup the five years you can drive one before it rusts away from road salt is great.
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CornHolio posted:If I flip the dimmer on my Dodge at night, the gauges and the touchscreen dim a lot - so much that they're kind of hard to see if it's dawn or dusk and the lights are on. At night though, it's significantly better. If I flip it back to normal mode it's drat near blinding. I think it's a pretty effective night mode. Does yours have the automatic dimmer that runs separate from the automatic headlights? On the Jeep the interior goes into night mode even in overcast weather that's not dark enough to trigger the headlights and it's pretty convenient. I don't know if they're doing that on all cars but it's a nice improvement but's so minor that it's hard to notice.
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Looking at the overhangs on the new Mazda they probably have enough space under the hood for a v12.
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Throatwarbler posted:Looking at the overhangs on the new Mazda they probably have enough space under the hood for a v12. I'm fairly certain he was talking about the rotary.
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Jan 19, 2017 16:48
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The I-6 is cool and good. It's not V8 good, but still good.
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1500quidporsche posted:I'm fairly certain he was talking about the rotary. Of the Rotary's many flaws packaging is not among them.
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Jan 19, 2017 16:56
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I was reading an article on the revival of Procar in Motorsport and Christian Danner called the BMW I6 a slow revving piece of crap. Cool beans.
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Human Grand Prix posted:Of the Rotary's many flaws packaging is not among them. That's subjective, it's entirely dependent on how many rotors you decide to go with.
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1500quidporsche posted:That's subjective, it's entirely dependent on how many rotors you decide to go with. Mazda only ever got to three, are you a bad enough dude to push it to six??
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Jymmybob posted:Does yours have the automatic dimmer that runs separate from the automatic headlights? On the Jeep the interior goes into night mode even in overcast weather that's not dark enough to trigger the headlights and it's pretty convenient. I don't know if they're doing that on all cars but it's a nice improvement but's so minor that it's hard to notice. Yeah, if the automatic headlights come on and the dimmer is set, the interior lights all dim. It isn't connected to the clock in any way. Unless I have the dimmer set to normal mode, then it's fine, I just have to flip it at night when it's blinding me.
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Human Grand Prix posted:I was reading an article on the revival of Procar in Motorsport and Christian Danner called the BMW I6 a slow revving piece of crap. Cool beans. BURN THE HERETIC.
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Human Grand Prix posted:I was reading an article on the revival of Procar in Motorsport and Christian Danner called the BMW I6 a slow revving piece of crap. Cool beans. https://youtu.be/emDOPPNAq2w
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CornHolio posted:Yeah, if the automatic headlights come on and the dimmer is set, the interior lights all dim. It isn't connected to the clock in any way. Unless I have the dimmer set to normal mode, then it's fine, I just have to flip it at night when it's blinding me. I was talking about it being a little different. On my JGC the interior dimmer works off of a different setpoint/sensor so even if the headlights are off it'll dim the interior before it's gets dark enough to turn on the headlights. It'd probably make what you're talking about worse but it's a nice minor feature and I was wondering if it was becoming more common.
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Jymmybob posted:I was talking about it being a little different. On my JGC the interior dimmer works off of a different setpoint/sensor so even if the headlights are off it'll dim the interior before it's gets dark enough to turn on the headlights. It'd probably make what you're talking about worse but it's a nice minor feature and I was wondering if it was becoming more common. Yeah, my Challenger doesn't have that.
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McTinkerson posted:It's not just the engine/trans either for the sky active cars. Look at the weight of a Mazda 3/6 vs. the competition as well. They're always the lightest in their respective class now.
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The 3 has 18" wheels too which definitely doesn't help with road noise (Golfs and Focuses and whatever tend to use smaller wheels except on the performance versions)
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Apparently one of the biggest changes to the CX-9 was adding way more sound-deadening material. Probably will happen to other models down the road.
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Monkey Fracas posted:I hope the current Mazda3 is selling well; seems to just be a great vehicle in all respects and I kinda love Mazda for bringing us the Mazdaspeed3 and the MX-5 (and the weird tiny-van 5). The G-Vectoring Control thing they're incorporating into the current 3 and some other cars is neat- kinda cuts the throttle ever-so-slightly when you turn the wheel to a certain degree to load up the front tires/suspension a bit and give you a little more direct control. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2017/01/usa-compact-car-sales-stats-december-2016-year-end.html they aren't exactly setting the world on fire, but I'm sure Mazda isn't expecting that out of the 3 anyway. Mazda don't have much market share in any segment except compact SUV/Crossover with the CX-5
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Cocoa Crispies posted:The 2012 Mustangs did something really slick with the backlighting on the tachometer, in that the backlighting would flash bright red if you hit the redline. My old Saab 9-3 has something similar. It has a night panel feature, which was mentioned, that turns off the needle and backlight for other gauges beside speedometer. On a road trip over christmas I noticed that if you get near the redline it would suddenly turn on the backlight for tachometer and the needle would spring to life for a short while.
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1500quidporsche posted:Yup the five years you can drive one before it rusts away from road salt is great. Look a post from 1997
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Koirhor posted:Look a post from 1997 Unfortunately, not really. Mazda has had rampant rust issues for the past 10 years or so. It's pretty well known.
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