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Dias posted:http://f5.folha.uol.com.br/voceviu/...l?cmpid=twfolha What about a translation?
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Jan 13, 2017 18:20
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Friendly Humour posted:What about a translation? She tattooed Trump's face for peace. Yeah. Edit. She's also Miss Butt
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Jan 13, 2017 18:32
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Man, why didn't we think of that? We need a Mexican Miss Bumbum ASAP. It can't hurt at this point.
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Jan 13, 2017 19:04
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Yeah, was too lazy to add context and I assume everyone here can kinda read Spanish but it's that, Miss Butt 2016 tatooed Trump on her back as a peace sign. Low-hanging fruit, they're both huge asses, so it works out.
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Jan 13, 2017 19:06
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I thought that was what it said but... WHy? Why is she Miss Butt 2016? Is it a national title? Temer?
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Jan 13, 2017 19:18
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Friendly Humour posted:I thought that was what it said but... WHy? Why is she Miss Butt 2016? Is it a national title? Temer? butts are really important in brazil
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Jan 13, 2017 19:31
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Symbolic Butt posted:butts are really important in brazil Trust this man, he's a specialist. It's a weird "beauty" contest that started god knows how or when, and its only relevance is to give us some Z-listers that do very stupid things (see: Trump stamp). Temer would be Mister Butt 2016.
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Jan 13, 2017 19:37
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Freezer posted:Man, why didn't we think of that? We had one!
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Jan 13, 2017 19:41
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It seems I have much to learn about Brazil 
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Jan 13, 2017 19:45
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Italian immigrant whose parents were from Montenegro? You learn something about Mexican History everyday.
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Jan 14, 2017 00:48
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Squalid posted:Looks like visa free immigration for Cubans is really gonna end If they thought it was seriously necessary they should support extending the law to enclude migrants fleeing actual repressive regimes and human rights crises in Mexico, Central America and Haiti.
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Jan 14, 2017 18:51
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This season's Argentine wholesome family fun butt pageantry wasn't held because of the crippling effects of feminism in modern society. It's gone too far I tell you.
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Jan 15, 2017 01:26
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Borneo Jimmy posted:If they thought it was seriously necessary they should support extending the law to enclude migrants fleeing actual repressive regimes and human rights crises in Mexico, Central America and Haiti. "actual repressive regimes"? Are you implying Cuba isn't?
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Jan 15, 2017 07:06
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Borneo Jimmy posted:If they thought it was seriously necessary they should support extending the law to enclude migrants fleeing actual repressive regimes and human rights crises in Mexico, Central America and Haiti. Obviously Jimmy excludes Venezuela from that list.
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Jan 15, 2017 14:16
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fnox posted:Obviously Jimmy excludes Venezuela from that list. When oppression comes from the left it's ok because
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Non Serviam posted:"actual repressive regimes"? Are you implying Cuba isn't? In comparison to the governments of Mexico and Honduras, who rig elections, and whose security forces and state affiliated drug cartels regularly murder and dissapear people. Not to mention Cuba is a country that actually bothers to provide for it's poorest an dmost vulnerable citizens, something you cant't say for Nieto's kleptocracy. The wet foot dry foot policy has nothing to do with human rights , it's pandering to a shrill voting bloc and was designed to sabatoge the cuban economy through brain drain.
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Jan 15, 2017 18:02
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This policy change is also designed to sabotage the Cuban economy, by depriving it of the foreign currency supplied through remittances.
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Jan 15, 2017 18:28
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Squalid posted:This policy change is also designed to sabotage the Cuban economy, by depriving it of the foreign currency supplied through remittances. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but I thought it wasn't legal or practical for people to send money back to Cuba from the US. Due to all those embargo restrictions which only just started to get lifted.
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Jan 15, 2017 18:38
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Borneo Jimmy posted:In comparison to the governments of Mexico and Honduras, who rig elections, and whose security forces and state affiliated drug cartels regularly murder and dissapear people. Not to mention Cuba is a country that actually bothers to provide for it's poorest an dmost vulnerable citizens, something you cant't say for Nieto's kleptocracy. You defend a country that has has a one party dictatorship for over half a century, complaining about others with rigged elections? Neat.
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Jan 15, 2017 18:50
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Borneo Jimmy posted:In comparison to the governments of Mexico and Honduras, who rig elections, and whose security forces and state affiliated drug cartels regularly murder and dissapear people. Not to mention Cuba is a country that actually bothers to provide for it's poorest an dmost vulnerable citizens, something you cant't say for Nieto's kleptocracy. Mexican drug cartels aren't state-affiliated. Everything else there is right I guess  It seems weird to call Mexico's government a repressive regime on that level. Abuses of power are common at the local and state level, but the poo poo the federal government gets away with has more to do with the idiocy and complacency of the general population than iron-fisted control on Nieto's behalf.
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Jan 15, 2017 20:39
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Conspiratiorist posted:Mexican drug cartels aren't state-affiliated. Everything I've read on Mexico suggest definate links between the state and the drug cartels. "Plata o plomo" requires the acquiescence of officials after all, even if the direct links don't run up to the highest of federal levels of authority. And then there was that little kerfuffle a while ago about that governor having a bunch of protestors arrested by cops and then handed over to a drug cartel for disposal. If that isn't state affliation then I don't know what is.
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Jan 15, 2017 21:24
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Friendly Humour posted:Everything I've read on Mexico suggest definate links between the state and the drug cartels. "Plata o plomo" requires the acquiescence of officials after all, even if the direct links don't run up to the highest of federal levels of authority. And then there was that little kerfuffle a while ago about that governor having a bunch of protestors arrested by cops and then handed over to a drug cartel for disposal. If that isn't state affliation then I don't know what is. It is, as Conspiratiorist says, state or local level corruption. Not the same thing.
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Jan 15, 2017 21:36
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I do think Cuba is probably better off than its neighbours in Central America overall, but it's kinda hard to not call it "repressive" when everything is state-controlled INCLUDING access to information. It's definitely not the worst dictatorship caused indirectly by the US foreign policy tho.
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Jan 15, 2017 21:42
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Discendo Vox posted:It is, as Conspiratiorist says, state or local level corruption. Not the same thing. Is it not? What difference does it make? And it's more than corruption when you have cases of drug gangs acting as executioners for state authorities. That is becoming the state, the government, not corrupting the state. It's a step beyond merely manipulating individuals when the whole structure of power is implicated in the crime. I'm sure as time goes on we'll see a growing tendency for federal official being implicated in cartel activities.
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Jan 15, 2017 21:48
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Friendly Humour posted:Is it not? What difference does it make? And it's more than corruption when you have cases of drug gangs acting as executioners for state authorities. That is becoming the state, the government, not corrupting the state. It's a step beyond merely manipulating individuals when the whole structure of power is implicated in the crime. I'm sure as time goes on we'll see a growing tendency for federal official being implicated in cartel activities. The mayor/police chief of a poor 5k pop town being in the pocket of organized crime, or mid-level state officials taking bribes, is most definitely not the same as the government being allied with cartels. It makes a big difference in the way it impacts decision-making, since it is urban areas and not rural which hold the economic and political power of the country, and at the federal level there is an actual "war" going on against drug cartels that wouldn't exist in the case of collusion. Mexico does suffer from rampant corruption (though, by global standards, it isn't even that bad and most of the impact of such is reflected in bureaucratic inefficiency and reduced confidence in the government) and arguably is a country run by criminals, but you need to look at the actual cases of countries controlled by criminal organizations or literal warlords if you can't make out the difference from what you've "read".
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Also check out this guy, who governed the state of Veracruz (pop. 8 mill) for the last half-decade.quote:Due to the unprecedented number of journalist killings during Duarte de Ochoa's term as governor, the international association Reporters Without Borders named the state of Veracruz one of the ten most dangerous places in the world in which to practice journalism. It's just one more example of a general problem that extends way beyond the local level. Overall it's not great.
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Jan 16, 2017 00:08
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Conspiratiorist posted:The mayor/police chief of a poor 5k pop town being in the pocket of organized crime, or mid-level state officials taking bribes, is most definitely not the same as the government being allied with cartels. It makes a big difference in the way it impacts decision-making, since it is urban areas and not rural which hold the economic and political power of the country, and at the federal level there is an actual "war" going on against drug cartels that wouldn't exist in the case of collusion. If you think the rampant corruption, constant murders of members of the civil society and the state's seeming inability to do anything about any of it are unconnected, I would call you a bit deluded mate. But please, do tell about your opinions on places you think got it worse. I'd like to see a list of those places, and where do you think Mexico ranks in that. I'm not trying to insult your country by the way, I know very well who the ultimate culprit for your mess is.
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Jan 16, 2017 00:18
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You two need to swap usernames.
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I could think of a lot of things to swap.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-38675688quote:Mexican authorities are to investigate allegations children battling cancer were given "distilled water" instead of chemotherapy. How are the Mexican states organized by the way? Isn't a Governor just one step below the Federal Assembly in terms of authority?
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Friendly Humour posted:How are the Mexican states organized by the way? Isn't a Governor just one step below the Federal Assembly in terms of authority? It's a bit more complicated. States have a large degree of autonomy, so there are powers that only states have, some that are federal only, and then there are areas with overlap (if you're from the US, you already know all about this, I guess). The Governor is the head of a state's executive branch, so there's not really anyone directly above him in the chain of command. Anyway, yeah. It's brazen, high level corruption. As for blame apportion, I think you could make a case for the PGR (Attorney General's office) failing to enforce federal law against Duarte, and for allowing him to escape. However, the State Congress would've had to impeach him first, since officials have immunity from prosecution. Duarte was a PRI member (same as the President, and the present and former directors of the PGR) until they were pretty much forced to strip him of his membership when this stuff came to a head. They could've leveraged the party machinery against him and gotten him expelled and maybe impeached a long time ago. He's got lots of friends, though, some of them with their fingers in this particular pie. See e.g. Fidel Herrera. Or maybe the interim Governor who lent him the getaway helicopter?
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That's... What do Governors actually do? Just for context I'm a Finn, and here the State is divided into counties who handle mostly the local infrastructure and additional services as directed by the county assembly, while state institutions providing the minimal services that every citizen is entitled to, like KELA (social security and other direct deposits) and the Police mostly operate independently, subject to their own internal bureacratic hierarchies of authority but under nominal county oversight. I guess it's that whole lack of overt corruption thing, but I'm just at a loss imaging what the Governor of a Province does with his authority. Can he just tell local instutions to go and do whatver, does he need to seek affirmation from state assembies, what? Other than that, I expect there to be a lot of these cases in Mexico waiting to come to light. It's just a bit astonishing to me how deeply your government seems to be affliated with drug cartels. Why don't people go into revolt if things are this corrupted?
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Jan 19, 2017 21:13
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So, Supreme Justice Zavascki, the judge in charge of the Lava Jato case in the Supreme Court, just died in an air accident. Stay tuned for conspiracy theories.
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Jan 19, 2017 22:12
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Magrov posted:So, Supreme Justice Zavascki, the judge in charge of the Lava Jato case in the Supreme Court, just died in an air accident. In Brazil, in case filthy foreigners like me were unaware.
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Jan 19, 2017 22:17
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Friendly Humour posted:That's... Well you have city/town mayors in Finland right? It's the same sort of powers, i think, just over a generally wider area and more people. The sort of things in the remit of a Finnish county are probably going to be a good correlation to what Mexican states do. Cities/towns generally maintain authority over various local issues, but with the ability for governors to override them in emergencies and limited situations, or the state legislature to pass laws that permanently take something out of local hands. The states generally also retain the power to forcibly merge two muncipalities, or even disincorporate one, thus changing local control, but that doesn't happen very often at all.
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Jan 19, 2017 22:29
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fishmech posted:Well you have city/town mayors in Finland right? It's the same sort of powers, i think, just over a generally wider area and more people. The sort of things in the remit of a Finnish county are probably going to be a good correlation to what Mexican states do. We don't have city mayors, not really no. The first mayor of Tampere was elected 10 years ago, and he has no actual power to do anything. He was elected basically because someone thought it was European to have a mayor or whatever. Political power in Finland has been based on consensus since forever. I don't want to start talking about my country here, but this is something I have no personal experience or conception of myself.
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Magrov posted:So, Supreme Justice Zavascki, the judge in charge of the Lava Jato case in the Supreme Court, just died in an air accident. My Facebook timeline looks like it just finished watching a season finale of House of Cards
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Jan 19, 2017 22:42
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Friendly Humour posted:That's... In theory, states are like mini-countries with their own constitutions, police forces, division of powers (congress, supreme court, etc) and the governor is roughly the state equivalent of the federal president. States are further divided into municipalities that run most of the boring day-to-day stuff. In theory there's supposed to be checks on the governor's power, but in practice they tend to act like mini-dictators, or at least that's my impression. Friendly Humour posted:Other than that, I expect there to be a lot of these cases in Mexico waiting to come to light. It's just a bit astonishing to me how deeply your government seems to be affliated with drug cartels. Why don't people go into revolt if things are this corrupted? Well, there's plenty of (good) food, and between church and TV, everyone's reasonably entertained. Why risk it? That said though, there are smaller-scale protests, riots and rebellions happening all the time. The bigger ones I can think of off the top of my head are the EZLN/Zapatista movement, the 2006 post-elections shadow government and associated occupation/protests and the Michoacan vigilante movement. Unfortunately they don't tend to end well.
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ElPez posted:In theory, states are like mini-countries with their own constitutions, police forces, division of powers (congress, supreme court, etc) and the governor is roughly the state equivalent of the federal president. States are further divided into municipalities that run most of the boring day-to-day stuff. In theory there's supposed to be checks on the governor's power, but in practice they tend to act like mini-dictators, or at least that's my impression. Ok so it's a series of increasingly more powerful people who get to veto and overrule anything people below them do without discussion or need for compromise? That doesn't really sound like something that's going to work without intensely personal ties of loyalty binding the hierarchy together, but I guess easy enough for me to speak. But yeah, stupid question. People do not ever rebel until they get hungry and bored, no point asking for more reasons. The local rebellions I know very little about seemed pretty interesting, but I don't understand why these movements don't try to link up and cooperate? Just poverty and the usual alienation of isolated communities? What was the shadow government thing about? Just the usual social democrats throwing up a hissy fit about corruption? Cheers and good night!
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