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jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

i heard mao had hosed up green teeth? how does this bode for the success of communism?

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deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

jarofpiss posted:

i heard mao had hosed up green teeth? how does this bode for the success of communism?

mao was bad at communism, did not even take the toothbrushes

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

china was too rural so too few neighbors to share toothburshes with i guess

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
Colgate is bourgeois

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

jarofpiss posted:

i heard mao had hosed up green teeth? how does this bode for the success of communism?

bodes well, op

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
i am so happy with this thread atm this is how marxism can reach the workers of the world.

AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009

Baloogan posted:

i am so happy with this thread atm this is how marxism can reach the workers of the world.

The fish represents Stalinists. :tito:

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

this copy of the phenomenology has a section at the back where another dude goes paragraph by paragraph with hegel attempting to explain what he meant

i'm not sure it should be legal to print without one

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Baloogan posted:

i am so happy with this thread atm this is how marxism can reach the workers of the world.

The Fifth international: Memes, Prolix, Anime, or Death

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
But seriously Baloogan should be put in charge of the Nunavut gulags

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Baloogan posted:

i am so happy with this thread atm this is how marxism can reach the workers of the world.

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Prav posted:

bodes well, op

*grins maoishly*

AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009

jarofpiss posted:

*grins maoishly*


I'm the homeboy in da back

Ormi
Feb 7, 2005

B-E-H-A-V-E
Arrest us!

rudatron posted:

I have real, real big problems with anarchism, my main beef being that it's not so much opposed to authority, as it is institutions. Problem is, institutions exist for a reason; economies of scale are a real thing, network effects are a real thing, interior lines are a real thing. Centralization has real, substantial material benefits. The issue for this is that, in the kind of anarchist ideal economy, what this means is that everyone involved in the system must constantly be suppressing any 'potential' institutions from popping up, and they're going to keep popping up, and the instant you let up, you're going to have a single behemoth staring you down, that's now large enough to dictate terms to anything stuck in it's orbit. It's an ultimately unstable situation, like trying to balance a pencil on its end, or trying to push water uphill.

Anarchist themselves usually tend to be kind, beautiful and sensitive souls (which is probably a big part of its appeal), but their intellectual rigor leaves something to be desired.

Excepting ancaps of course, because gently caress ancaps.

By and large economies of scale can only grow to the point we see in modern industrialized societies by riding the wave of state intervention on behalf of the capitalist (or equivalent) class. Without that element, diseconomies of scale, through things like transportation costs, prevent the kinds of oligopolistic domination that basically define market economies today. The dream of Marxist mass politics is of course to have all of the upsides to centralization while avoiding the downsides, but the questions of who really controls the means of production, and who benefits when you concentrate them into fewer and fewer actually working hands, will always loom over this vision. 20th century techno-utopian authoritarian socialism with its party-managerial class is only one of the more dramatic outcomes possible, but economic subjugation in a "democratic" socialist state is just as easy to envision for the same fundamental reasons.

The alternative isn't a totalitarian society of eternal vigilance. It's to dismiss insurrectionary capture of these institutions to begin with in favor of a prefigurative politics of "building the new society in the shell of the old", not through attitudes, but through direct material relationships that offer some degree of exodus away from capitalist power. That can be comprehensive, like the revolutionary industrial unionism of the IWW or the CNT-FAI. It can also be brought together in an organic way from many smaller components, as in the growing solidarity economies found in Greece and Spain, through things like worker and consumer co-operatives, community shared agriculture, local mutual credit and insurance, and so on.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/PissPigGranddad/status/822462486477701120

https://twitter.com/PissPigGranddad/status/822541924749942787

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

7pm anti-inaugural action downtown houston at city hall on bagby. should be pretty big, show up if you're in the area.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/MrTrunney/status/822580347409932290?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

antifa doing their job.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


I'm living my life vicariously through PissPigGranddad

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The Kingfish posted:

I'm living my life vicariously through PissPigGranddad

Getting into a twitter fight with Claire McCaskill while on the Raqqa Front. He's basically my hero.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
some mighty fine gifs here


https://twitter.com/nifkinjuice/status/822593589091897348

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwx4H_7ARcs

This kid good.

The youth is alright.

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



PissPigGranddad is really killing it today

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

OhFunny posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwx4H_7ARcs

This kid good.

The youth is alright.

Is that the kid from the Infowars video who said Trump is gay?

https://twitter.com/PissPigGranddad/status/822610671800094721

Pener Kropoopkin fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Jan 21, 2017

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

pisspiggrandad is fuckin killing today

wasnt going to carry a sign tomorrow since its a different crowd (neolib activism themepark day) but really just want to carry a printout of his feed

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

*extremely cool and good leftist voice* "ugh, this protest is so neoliberal. guess i'll go home and work on my twitter owns instead"

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


is a fuckin coward who had to go to another country to get his kill rocks off

if only he stayed here and wanted to do the same

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

its not a protest, neolib. they made a whole website to make it very clear it isnt a protest and theres a whole foods nearby so everything is very safe and network television and mlk solved racism just by talking nice

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Fallen Hamprince posted:

*extremely cool and good leftist voice* "ugh, this protest is so neoliberal. guess i'll go home and work on my twitter owns instead"

stfu and get out of this thread

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Breakfast All Day posted:

its not a protest, neolib. they made a whole website to make it very clear it isnt a protest and theres a whole foods nearby so everything is very safe and network television and mlk solved racism just by talking nice

*writes 4000 word essay in the jacobin about how a march on washington isn't a protest because ~the discourse~*

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I have no idea what Fuckin Hampiss is salty about

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

Speaking of 4000 word essays, given today's Lowtax pronouncement concerning Glorious 2017, are effortposts no longer verboten in here?

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I have no idea what Fuckin Hampiss is salty about

i'm goblin pissed

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Annual Prophet posted:

Speaking of 4000 word essays, given today's Lowtax pronouncement concerning Glorious 2017, are effortposts no longer verboten in here?

just loving include catgirls & communist anime pics

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

Annual Prophet posted:

Speaking of 4000 word essays, given today's Lowtax pronouncement concerning Glorious 2017, are effortposts no longer verboten in here?

:justpost:

sixers can't stop revolutionary science

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

just link to your livejournal marxailures

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Darkman Fanpage posted:

stfu and get out of this thread

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Darkman Fanpage posted:

stfu and get out of this thread

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Darkman Fanpage posted:

stfu and get out of this thread

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Morzhovyye
Mar 2, 2013

lol go make another "russia is forming a fascist internationale" type thread so that everyone in cspam can join forces for a common cause and make fun of you again

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