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Bear in the Woods posted:I found that if you strip someone before they die (I have a mod that reduces the chance to outright kill someone, so quite frequently), the clothes won't count as belonging to a dead person. What's the name of the mod that does that? I tried looking it up but just found a bunch of ridiculous cheat mods.
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Truecon420 posted:What's the name of the mod that does that? I tried looking it up but just found a bunch of ridiculous cheat mods. No RNG in Death. https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=27580.0 Because Tynan thinks that an incapacitating hit should also have a 67% chance of death for non colonists/prisoners. It cuts down on capture rate, sure. But people dying to having their toe blown off and collapsing from the pain shouldn't also lead to instant death.
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A simple solution to the deadmans clothing problem https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=731735894
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Devdisigdu posted:No RNG in Death. I'm pretty sure it's less what Tynan thinks should happen and more that it's a deliberate nerf to picking the best recruits from raiders and organ harvesting.
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Cling-Wrap Condom posted:Dug into a rock face and some robot monster shot all me blokes dead, strewth. Game owns. Yeah if you're new to the game you will get a note on the right that says ancient danger (when one of your pawns is close to the area). Basically, you don't want to open it until you have a mix of armored/helmeted pawns, automatic weapons and charge rifles. Be sure to build a marble square for each of your pawns to take cover behind before you open the ruin. It usually looks like a man made wall in the rocky part of the mountain. By the time you open the ruin you should have a decent prison setup so you can capture any people found inside (if you want to). Radiohead71 fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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Radiohead71 posted:Yeah if you're new to the game you will get a note on the right that says ancient danger (when one of your pawns is close to the area). Basically, you don't want to open it until you have a mix of armored/helmeted pawns, automatic weapons and charge rifles. Be sure to build a marble square for each of your pawns to take cover behind before you open the ruin. It usually looks like a man made wall in the rocky part of the mountain. By the time you open the ruin you should have a decent prison setup so you can capture any people found inside (if you want to). Yeah I had another crack at a similar structure on my tribal save where I've paradoxically got far better tech and it's full of chryochambers! sweet!
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We were doing so well, but then a disaster beyond any other occurred, and though these five survived it, we were far too weak to recover when a massive raid arrived and started grenading the hell out of us. We gave better than we got; we killed eight or nine of them outright, and left a couple of others wounded on the ground. But it was not to be. After surviving Deep Ones and Star Vampires, raids, drop assaults, food shortages, and a particularly vicious bout of malaria, the disaster that weakened us so was the maddenning of every boomrat on the map. RIP in rest, Golden Castle.
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Aaaaaa I took a patch from Steam and it just trashed all my mods 
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Cup Runneth Over posted:I'm pretty sure it's less what Tynan thinks should happen and more that it's a deliberate nerf to picking the best recruits from raiders and organ harvesting. Except this is already punished pretty severely by the (stacking!) mood penalties for organ harvesting and selling prisoners and how hard it is to recruit prisoners.
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Slime posted:Except this is already punished pretty severely by the (stacking!) mood penalties for organ harvesting and selling prisoners and how hard it is to recruit prisoners. There's a maximum stack to those penalties, and if you're willing to wait you can still recruit any prisoner you take. It's not a severe punishment, I harvest tons of organs and tank all the mood penalties with how happy my colonists are.
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Slime posted:Except this is already punished pretty severely by the (stacking!) mood penalties for organ harvesting and selling prisoners and how hard it is to recruit prisoners. Plus you've got to have the infrastructure to keep prisoners alive for however long you need them, meaning the bare resources for their lodgings (not much admittedly, but still), the power for heaters/coolers/etc., and the food they need, as well as any medical supplies you deem them worthy of (and whatever you need for harvesting). On top of all that, more of them downed means more time to bleed out before they can all be rescued. Capturing prisoners is powerful, and no question that mod is a buff, but it's not entirely free. e; could probably do with a minor prisoner expansion, so you can put them to work, or even have them work towards their freedom or integration into the colony, and it can make recruitment easier because they're starting to get relationships with your pawns and have a general "This is a reasonable way to treat prisoners" buff or something, but at the same time if they see the chance they might just bugger off on you. More than that though I want a mod that lets pawns become barbers and give haircuts. Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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I just slap torches in the room and never have any problems. Sure they might get heat stroke but they never die from it. And I have hundreds of healroot from harvesting a single sun lamp year round. It's really no cost at all for any colony of significant size, especially considering the enormous profit and extra labor from new colonists. That's why the mechanic exists.
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Flesh Forge posted:But you aren't shown the infection progress until after 63% (unless you cheat) so ... basically if anyone gets malaria early in the game those colonists are almost certainly doomed. Guess I need to start with a cheesier doctor colonist because Medicine: 6 was not enough even with constant micromanagement. It's neat that the disease is perfectly made to trash your whole autosave history, sort of a stealth iron man mode. Treatments slow the progression of the disease. A 100% quality tend slows Malaria down to just 16% of the normal progression; high quality tends practically halt the progression and Unfortunately, I lied about the full extent of the benefit of reactive Penoxycycline for Malaria. Since the wiki page calculated a much higher tend requirement than I was, I checked out my calculations... and there was a bug, I was calculating the tend quality required to die exactly one day before acquiring immunity. After fixing it, I get a slightly higher number than the wiki, because my math somewhat better considers the impact of malaria's blood filtration reduction, needing at least 8 skill medicine to survive with herbal medicine. Taking Penoxycycline reactively drops that down to "just" 6 skill. Azhais posted:I don't even care about the awesome armor I can't use, just that the only checkbox in my outfit editor is "allow non-deadman's clothing" and unchecking it results in people stripping everything that isn't corpse clothes. There's no inverse checkbox because the pawn apparel selection code applies a massive penalty for deadman's apparel. Pawns will pick non-deadman's 50% hp Awful quality power armor over 100% hp Legendary deadman's power armor - and power armor is less affected by the penalty than any other item type. If your pawns are autonomously picking deadman's gear, it's because they have no non-deadman's option available. Mzbundifund posted:I'm not sure what exploit it's intended to balance. Raider clothes were already bad craftsmanship and heavily damaged. They sell for like 1-10 bucks. In A15 (and earlier), there was a secret 50% sell value penalty to all apparel and weapons (on top of the already terrible sell prices), to limit the silver earned from looting dead raiders. Unfortunately, this hosed over any players that decided to make apparel or weapons to sell, and sell prices were too opaque for them to realize it. The intent of the deadman's debuff was to limit the value of dead raider clothes without loving player crafted clothes. Devdisigdu posted:No RNG in Death. 47%.
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Zhentar posted:Treatments slow the progression of the disease. A 100% quality tend slows Malaria down to just 16% of the normal progression; high quality tends practically halt the progression and What I'm hearing is, start with at least one (preferably more than one) doctor with 10+ medical skill. I guess I'm OK with this new approach of handling disease, because previously Jungle was the easiest biome by far, except for heat wave incidents.
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Do these mods exist? Leather: Everything just drops one kind of leather Dye: Select colors for clothing
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Is there a beginners guide for this? Never played this or dwarf fortress.
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There's a tutorial in game.
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Flesh Forge posted:Aaaaaa I took a patch from Steam and it just trashed all my mods loving hell it happened to me too!
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There wasn't a patch, Tynan said it was a bug caused by the latest steam update. http://steamcommunity.com/app/294100/discussions/0/143387886726767756/ https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=29516.msg301517#msg301517 But if you restart Steam it apparently works now. ...but you have to re-enable everything.
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It wasn't a game patch, it was a patch of the Steam client itself.* And I had to take more steps than that, restarting the Steam client and then verifying game files did not help - I had to add a mod (the mod list backup mod, wish I had had it installed before this happened oops) before Steam would unfuck itself. *yes I realize this is what you just said
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straw man posted:Do these mods exist? I think you can skin anything skinnable already. Oh wait, you mean getting rid of [animal] leather and replacing it with just leather?
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Google Butt posted:Is there a beginners guide for this? Never played this or dwarf fortress. There is an excellent guide by Hieronymous Alloy, who posts in this thread regularly. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=813720217
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straw man posted:Do these mods exist? yeah, i use patchwork leather and area rugs, but there are alternatives (i prefer area rugs for dyes, but i haven't really looked into the other leather mod) e: there used to be a unified leathers mod, but it's discontinued patchwork leather: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=833735722 stitched leather: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=840904991 area rugs: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=827346960 dye vat: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=740002420 Nut to Butt fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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I'm convinced that a hotbox defense isn't viable, at least not in vanilla A16. Does anyone know of any good heating/freezing mods?
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Is that no RNG death mod on steam? I can't get the mods downloaded from the ludeon forums to work or show up in my mod list, no matter how I extract them, where I extract them to, or what have you. I have specifically looked at how steam formats and places the mod folders, and set them up the same, but no dice.
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McGiggins posted:Is that no RNG death mod on steam? I can't get the mods downloaded from the ludeon forums to work or show up in my mod list, no matter how I extract them, where I extract them to, or what have you. That's... odd because they are just drag and drop. If you go steam > properties > local files > browse local files there should be a mods folder, mod folders go in that folder, that's it. So the file structure should be mods/[mod folder] and then the [mod folder] folder should have at least an /about and a /defs folder. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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OwlFancier posted:That's... odd because they are just drag and drop. I'm pretty sure there's a literal "open mod folder" button on the mods page too
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straw man posted:Do these mods exist? The closest I've seen for 16 is Vegetable Garden, where one of the new benches (loom) allows you to make blended leather.
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It wouldn't work. How would you handle the current system of different animals leather giving different insulation values when used in clothing?
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Just make them all the same across the board I guess. Most animal leathers have a relatively small variance in their insulation quality in real life anyways.
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Carcer posted:It wouldn't work. How would you handle the current system of different animals leather giving different insulation values when used in clothing? Standardize on one. Thanks for the feedback on these everybody who replied. Spoiler alert, I asked hoping neither of these existed, as I'm looking to write them. It looks like the leather types are part of the animal race defs, so I think that mod is as simple as going through and find/replacing all the existing leather types in the XML files. Color is probably going to take code instead of just configuration. The interface I'm imagining has a regular Windows-style color picker dialog as part of the bill details on the tailor bench. Based on the way the others are implementing it - colored cloth - it sounds like that's not exactly how the game is architected and may take a bit of creativity to achieve.
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Mzbundifund posted:If someone gets a mental break and starts wandering they'll spend so much time out of bed they'll probably die. Amputate leg.
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The game could really use a restrain action where the pawn tries not to hurt the target while taking them prisoner, with the downside being that if it fails then your pawn just took a few hits from the target. Success would increase a fuckton by multiple pawns piling on one. It would be handy for stopping berserking colonists without, y'know, maybe accidentally killing them.
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OwlFancier posted:That's... odd because they are just drag and drop. yeah, that is the source of my confusion. I tried exactly that, to the letter, through that exact process, and it didn't work. I gave up and went and learned javascript instead, seemed easier.
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I've been playing this game without reading this thread... Dev mode is fun
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Slime posted:The game could really use a restrain action where the pawn tries not to hurt the target while taking them prisoner, with the downside being that if it fails then your pawn just took a few hits from the target. Success would increase a fuckton by multiple pawns piling on one. It would be handy for stopping berserking colonists without, y'know, maybe accidentally killing them. That'd be really good, I agree. The closest I know of is this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=824831260 which lets you stick people in straitjackets so they can't do much while losing their marbles. Also, protip, the Cthulhu mods are ace and should be strongly considered by everyone.
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Mister Adequate posted:That'd be really good, I agree. The closest I know of is this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=824831260 which lets you stick people in straitjackets so they can't do much while losing their marbles. Also, protip, the Cthulhu mods are ace and should be strongly considered by everyone. I don't use the Cthulhu mods because I'm not really interested in injecting Lovecraft into my space opera, but everything I've heard about them has been good.
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Mister Adequate posted:That'd be really good, I agree. The closest I know of is this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=824831260 which lets you stick people in straitjackets so they can't do much while losing their marbles. Also, protip, the Cthulhu mods are ace and should be strongly considered by everyone. Could you give a few sentence starter's guide for these? I'm not sure what I should be doing or when I should be attempting it. I did an unmodified crashlanded start scenario on Randy Intense, and nothing seems different apart from the fact that all my characters have this "cult-mindedness" meter in their needs & mood screen. Do I need to crack open the ancient danger or something to get the mod content started? I've only played for like 2 game days so far.
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Eventually a big, red, scary tree will appear and one of your colonists will go to it and write an arcane book, which you can use to build a research bench that gives you access to cult stuff like altars and cult attire and such. You can then build a temple and designate how often your pawns worship the various gods you can discover through research. Once you've worshiped enough or sacrificed enough food and animals you'll be able to sacrifice pawns to use spells. For Cthulhu, the first god I discovered, there's a spell to cause ship pieces to rain down on the map and another that replaces one of your pawns appendages (Including eyes) with various tentacle themed limbs that give a significant boost to related stats.
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