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No, surely not. Not an aircraft that flies near space and 4-5 times the speed of sound.
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CommieGIR posted:No, surely not. Not an aircraft that flies near space and 4-5 times the speed of sound. I know, it's very much a "Boy Scouts have Jamboree" headline. Still, lots of details on how you keep the Blackbird flying. Also, reading about your hometown from the eyes of an American journalist, pretty strange
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Humbug posted:The rate of development was also pretty crazy. Just 8 years earlier than the all metal 1900hp Supermarine S6 I posted and 10 before the MC72, the winner was a Macchi M.7. A wooden biplane with about 260 hp and a top speed of about 120mph. It really was. Look at the Gloster Gladiator - one of the fastest biplanes ever built and a competitive front-line fighter when it first flew in 1934. By the time it entered squadron service three years later it was obsolete. Even the Hawker Hurricane became outmoded (as far as European war was concerned, at least) after 1940. The RAF essentially went through three fighter generations in three years: 1931 - Hawker Fury - biplane, wooden construction, open cockpit, twin machine guns, fixed undercarriage, 640hp, 200mph 1937 - Gloster Gladiator - biplane, wooden construction, closed cockpit, four machine guns, fixed undercarriage, 830hp 250mph early 1938 - Hawker Hurricane - monoplane, wooden construction, closed cockpit, eight machine guns, retractable undercarriage, 1000hp, 340mph late 1938 Supermarine Spitfire - monoplane, metal construction, closed cockpit, eight guns, retractable undercarriage, 1000hp, 360mph and then by the end of the war: 1945 - Hawker Sea Fury - monoplane, metal construction, closed cockpit, four cannons, retractable undercarriage, 2480hp, 460mph joat mon posted:If the Macchi MC72 is the winner that never raced, the Piaggio P.7 is the winner that never flew. Yes! 
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Eej posted:Everyone knows that Y-Wings are the best cause they're the Hurricanes to the X-Wing's Spitfire. Y-Wings are clearly the Defiant to the X-Wing's Spitfire. 
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MrYenko posted:Y-Wings are clearly the Defiant to the X-Wing's Spitfire.  Literally nothing in common, and I'm mad about it. Any ole torp bomber would be a better comparison. mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Jan 21, 2017 |
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MrYenko posted:Y-Wings are clearly the Defiant to the X-Wing's Spitfire. Wikipedia posted:Luftwaffe fighters suffered losses when "bouncing" flights of Defiants from the rear, apparently mistaking them for Hurricanes.[23] The German pilots were unaware of the Defiant's rear-firing armament and encountered concentrated defensive fire. If the Y-Wings had had rear-firing turrets they'd probably have actually reached the target. A Space-Defiant would have been a much better design for the trench run. If anything the Y-Wing is a Fairey Battle
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BalloonFish posted:If the Y-Wings had had rear-firing turrets they'd probably have actually reached the target. A Space-Defiant would have been a much better design for the trench run. If anything the Y-Wing is a Fairey Battle Y-Wings DO have rear firing turrets.
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BalloonFish posted:Was there any deeply nerdy explaination for why the TIE's had those radiators on each side, blocking most of the pilot's peripheral vision? I know the real answer is 'because they look cool' but I'm guessing there's a 40,000 word Wookipedia thesis explaining exactly what they're for. The radiators on the side are solar panels for increasing the power to the engines/laser cannon.
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Party Plane Jones posted:The radiators on the side are solar panels for increasing the power to the engines/laser cannon. Yeah, not only are they running on ion engines, they're solar powered ion engines. TIE fighters are basically weaponized space probes.
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I think all of the details have been banished to non-canon land but I believe the general gist goes like: TIE Fighters don't operate alone so your wingmates will watch your sides (some sort of philosophical discussion about the Empire enforcing its policy of you being disposable by forcing you to work with your group or perish), there's windows on top and bottom, the front window actually gives you really good visibility for strafing Rebel scum, space fantasy military-industrial complex fuckups, you rely on your computer more than your eyes anyway in space and they made the TIE Interceptor for ace pilots and cut out holes in the wings anyway.
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BalloonFish posted:If the Y-Wings had had rear-firing turrets they'd probably have actually reached the target. A Space-Defiant would have been a much better design for the trench run. If anything the Y-Wing is a Fairey Battle I'd say Blackburn Skua at least for the earlier variants that had the turret working.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Yeah, not only are they running on ion engines, they're solar powered ion engines. TIE fighters are basically weaponized space probes. Always use nuclear power for your fictional TIE fighters could be operating within spitting distance of the Sun itself and they still wouldn’t have enough power to manœuvre as shown.
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Platystemon posted:Always use nuclear power for your fictional There are no shadows in the Star Wars universe; every ship is lit from every angle. It's very hot.
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Assault Gunboats: when the empire decides to build a starfighter that isn't a piece of crap (TIE Fighter, Interceptor, Bomber) and isn't an absurdly overpowered monstrosity (TIE Avenger and Defender).  Predecessor of the Missile Boat, which have the most modern combat tactics of the series (stay out of dogfights, just spam missiles at your enemies and then supercruise away).
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Didn't that motherfucker have like dozens of missiles and a double speed sprint drive in the TIE Fighter games? It was an OP hit and run master.
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Yeah, it had space afterburners that were called SLAM, for Sub-Light Acceleration Module or something like that.
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Platystemon posted:Always use nuclear power for your fictional iirc the primary drive is powered by fusion and the solar panels are there to power secondary systems and to function as landing gear if they're forced to land in atmospheric combat
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Cat Mattress posted:Assault Gunboats: when the empire decides to build a starfighter that isn't a piece of crap (TIE Fighter, Interceptor, Bomber) and isn't an absurdly overpowered monstrosity (TIE Avenger and Defender). Crazy what happens when you give a contract out to a different manufacturer for once.
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Confirming that Sienar Fleet Systems is the LockMart of star wars.
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MRC48B posted:Confirming that Sienar Fleet Systems is the LockMart of star wars. Kuat Drive Yards is basically Boeing; they get all the big ships. Corellian Engineering Corporation is Grumman. Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jan 21, 2017 |
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Party Plane Jones posted:Kuat Drive Yards is basically Boeing; they get all the big ships. Corellian Engineering Corporation is Grumman. Isn't Kuat = Newport News?
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Gervasius posted:Isn't Kuat = Newport News? That sort of depends if you view big ships as equivalents to seabound vessels; KDY in the old series is also the conglomerate that produces the Empire's ground attack vehicles. So more General Dynamics I guess if you count the Electric Boat division as being part of the whole company.
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As a maintainer that gets all the numbers and limitations and other nitnoid poo poo quoted in that article...  E: especially the timeframes for minor and major isochronal/phase inspections.
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Dannywilson posted:As a maintainer that gets all the numbers and limitations and other nitnoid poo poo quoted in that article... I don’t know the lingo, so I’m imagining that that inspection goes like this: “Yep, this titanium remains in the solid phase. ☑”
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Having to order a replacement panel by aircraft number is sort of hilarious.
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Eh, when there were only 32 individual airframes built across all versions it's probably not that big a deal. They could have given them all names like the B-2s.
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Smaller fleets or standout aircraft do tend to have names. I met a Global Hawk named Patches, there was an AWACS that had various forms of "The Queen" or "Old Lady" etc.
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If TIE fighters are akin to space MiG 15s then Y-wings would be the space Skyraiders. They aren't meant to dogfight or infiltrate enemy defenses unseen. They get close to a target, bomb the crap out of the target, and return home for more munitions. If it's in a situation where it has to dogfight than the poo poo's hit the fan.
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What’s the Star Wars counterpart of the Fairey Swordfish?
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Platystemon posted:What’s the Star Wars counterpart of the Fairey Swordfish? Uglies. 
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Platystemon posted:What’s the Star Wars counterpart of the Fairey Swordfish? I kinda want to say an Aggressive ReConnaissance-170 starfighter
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Godholio posted:Smaller fleets or standout aircraft do tend to have names. I met a Global Hawk named Patches, there was an AWACS that had various forms of "The Queen" or "Old Lady" etc. AWACS was fun for the custom engine covers. The Balls-Series having the billiards themed ones, and then we had 1675 for awhile, and it had it's Godfather themed covers.
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I've got the Haynes 'Owner's Workshop Manual' on the SR-71, which has a chapter on the maintenance experience and quotes from a crew chief that goes into some more detail on Blackbird maintainers. Each plane had a supervising crew chief and four dedicated mechanics, each responsible for a subset of 28 work areas the plane was divided into, plus specialists and physiological support technicians. Also the plane is leaking JP7 on you the entire time you're working on it (10,000 hours were budgeted per depot inspection to individually hand-reapply sealant to every rivet, screw, and seam in the entire fuel system, but it was a meager palliative). This quote also deserves to be typed out in full: Crew Chief Mike Relja posted:"The SR-71-2-5 fuel system had fuel tank leakage limits, and inter-tank leakage limits. Provisions were also provided for fuel tank leakage evaluations, and a fuel tank leak chart was documented and carried in each aircraft. Each aircraft also carried a delayed discrepancy stating "Fuel tanks leak as per chart." The crew chief would fill the aircraft full, 80,000 lbs., service the LN2 system to pressurize the tanks, let it stabilize for an hour or so, then call the fuel shop specialist to measure and document the fuel leaks.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Uglies. Looks like R2-D2s skull is attached to the front to spread fear in the enemy's hearts. And the drawing style looks like the pilot about to board it is Tin Tin.
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Dannywilson posted:AWACS was fun for the custom engine covers. The Balls-Series having the billiards themed ones, and then we had 1675 for awhile, and it had it's Godfather themed covers. I was irrationally angry when they were replaced with generic ones. That was one of the first indications that wing leadership was gonna suck after Gen Robinson left.
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JSTARS have individual names, but just so the Crew Chiefs can curse them by name rather than by tail number.
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Aeronautical Insanity: That's when I knew they were out of their rabbit rear end minds
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joat mon posted:If the Macchi MC72 is the winner that never raced, the Piaggio P.7 is the winner that never flew. The P.7 is loving amazing. All Schneider Trophy planes are, but that one takes the cake for most novel idea.
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Ola posted:Looks like R2-D2s skull is attached to the front to spread fear in the enemy's hearts. And the drawing style looks like the pilot about to board it is Tin Tin. I made a thing: 
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