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ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Time for bad mother redemption fight.

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Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Obviously Fairy Tail is Fairy Tail but man it really stands out how weird the writing can be. She's burdened with a curse that comes from accepting a dragon's power to stave off human extinction, which is pretty dark in and of itself. But of course she can't just freak out and flee into the wilds, she has to be tortured and stripped naked so we can have creepy panels that actually have little narrative bearing. She kills a dude she doesn't even name from a country she doesn't even name. And then goes from "I just want to have my baby" to going crazy and dumping her in an alleyway.

By weird I guess I mean bad but it's sort of compelling in this hosed up disjointed way I guess.

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

Spiderdrake posted:

Obviously Fairy Tail is Fairy Tail but man it really stands out how weird the writing can be. She's burdened with a curse that comes from accepting a dragon's power to stave off human extinction, which is pretty dark in and of itself. But of course she can't just freak out and flee into the wilds, she has to be tortured and stripped naked so we can have creepy panels that actually have little narrative bearing. She kills a dude she doesn't even name from a country she doesn't even name. And then goes from "I just want to have my baby" to going crazy and dumping her in an alleyway.

By weird I guess I mean bad but it's sort of compelling in this hosed up disjointed way I guess.

I mean, she spent like 400 years as a dragon wanting to be human again, so it's not really far fetched to assume that along the way her obsession with being a human overwhelmed her desire to be a mother.

Also given that this is Fairy Tail I give it a 50% chance that she's lying about the past.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
The really weird thing is her unnamed husband just up and deciding to act like she was a witch. Like, he clearly was allied with her and the dragons and the war was over. But suddenly it's a crime to love or hate dragons and she's a monster that they should totally torture and degrade.

A monster they clearly know is super powerful and think is turning into a dragon, a creature which only Eileen and Acnologia are capable of even fighting.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



I don't think she implied nameless general dick from nameless country that imprisoned her for three loving years of torture was her husband even

The whole chapter was weird

Hate-Senpai posted:

Also given that this is Fairy Tail I give it a 50% chance that she's lying about the past.
Yeah I think you're right and this is a way to convey she's lying.

Also to fit in boobies but heeeeey fairy tail wouldn't be fairy tail without creepy torture nudity!

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

Gyges posted:

The really weird thing is her unnamed husband just up and deciding to act like she was a witch. Like, he clearly was allied with her and the dragons and the war was over. But suddenly it's a crime to love or hate dragons and she's a monster that they should totally torture and degrade.

A monster they clearly know is super powerful and think is turning into a dragon, a creature which only Eileen and Acnologia are capable of even fighting.

Cause there are evil dragons and good dragons and, um, maybe she's the bad dragon.

Something something Acnologia was also a human who turned into a dragon and he was literally human-dragon Hitler or something?

Ergo????

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.
Haven't read the chapter yet, but I think it can be summed up as Mashima being bad at writing anything outside tits and butts.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Spiderdrake posted:

I don't think she implied nameless general dick from nameless country that imprisoned her for three loving years of torture was her husband even

She mentions that General Nameless from the Empire of Whatzitz is Erza's father and then in the next speech bubble talks about political marriages. Then we find out that he was a nice dude who took care of Eileen after the dragon war. Followed on the next page by the information that the taking care of apparently lasted for a whole week before he brought a pitchfork and torch waving mob to attack the witchdragon lady.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

Fun Shoe
i mean i dunno i can accept that after fighting off acnologia people might be worried about other people turning into dragons (hell turning into a dragon actually did kinda mindfuck her a bit.)

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Gyges posted:

She mentions that General Nameless from the Empire of Whatzitz is Erza's father and then in the next speech bubble talks about political marriages. Then we find out that he was a nice dude who took care of Eileen after the dragon war. Followed on the next page by the information that the taking care of apparently lasted for a whole week before he brought a pitchfork and torch waving mob to attack the witchdragon lady.
gently caress, you're right.

How is FT so good at being forgetful? I seriously blanked on that page entirely.

It's also kinda hilarious how a top-tier dragon-slayer just let people torture her. She's one of the first and she survived the war, she was probably a total beast. But FT.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
even when she busted out she didn't burn down the city or anything. she didn't really become malicious or even vengeful until she got a small taste of being human again.

however, this is ft. everyone just does whatever, often for no particular reason. there is no reason to read too much into the newest batch of random bullshit mashima came up with.

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

I can't believe Eileen was married to Aizawa.

bondster
May 6, 2007

http://mangastream.com/r/fairy_tail/516/3931/1

Ah yes Eileen is actually Captain Ginyu :v:

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
More like a shittier Captain Ginyu.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.
Oh yes, Captain Ginyu without fabulous posing., so strictly worse. At least we are out of the torture porn zone :v:

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Angry Lobster posted:

Oh yes, Captain Ginyu without fabulous posing., so strictly worse. At least we are out of the torture porn zone :v:

You know you just totally jinxed it, right? Next chapter is going to be 12 pages of "Wendy" "sexily" torturing "Eileen".

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Ginyu's body change didn't have a compatibility requirement built in, making his technique superior.

I'm just saying if Ginyu were in Dragonball, Ezra would be firing ki blasts by now.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

Gyges posted:

You know you just totally jinxed it, right? Next chapter is going to be 12 pages of "Wendy" "sexily" torturing "Eileen".

Nice.

I'd be okay with Eileen becoming a posing machine with "Alvarez Rules" playing in the background.

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP
That's what this invasion was missing. More posing from everyone involved.

Overlord K
Jun 14, 2009
I hope Mashima's next manga has a lot more monster fighting, cause goddamn that page of Igneel. :allears:

Erg
Oct 31, 2010

Overlord K posted:

I hope Mashima's next manga has a lot more monster fighting, cause goddamn that page of Igneel. :allears:

he did a Monster Hunter manga if you haven't seen that

http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Monster-Hunter-Orage

it's got awful scans from what I remember though

Suspicious Lump
Mar 11, 2004
I don't understand why she hates her body so much. Because she can't feel anymore? Ok, what's wrong with your dragon body then? Thought you loved dragons.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

Suspicious Lump posted:

I don't understand why she hates her body so much. Because she can't feel anymore? Ok, what's wrong with your dragon body then? Thought you loved dragons.

She can't sleep, she can't taste anything and she feels itchy, cold and in in pain.

I guess she could become a dragon I guess, but you'd have to go off to some cave somewhere.

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I think Blastoise is a cool Pokemon but I don't think I want to be a Blastoise.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

New chapter is up.

Gyges posted:

"Wendy" "sexily" torturing "Eileen".

So it was only one panel, 3 panels tops. Switch went quicker than I thought and redemption doesn't seem like its happening anytime soon.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



He went for boob jokes instead of torture.

If not for that, actually kinda cool.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012
I actually think it was kind of dumb of Wendy to switch back like that, given how injured Wendy's body was and how uninjured Eileen's body was. She should really have just killed Eileen and kept Eileen's body.

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




No I think it's pretty reasonable for someone to take the first available opportunity to get their real body back. You may never get a second chance

Woulda been nice if she'd, like, broken Eileen's legs first or something but w/e

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Plus Eileen's body was explicitly broken in several ways, a fact that is the sole reason she so badly wanted to steal another in the first place. Even if Wendy was okay with it in the short term it's pretty obvious she'd want out at some point just like Eileen did.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Spiderdrake posted:

He went for boob jokes

I think we all knew they were going to happen.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

It was remarkably restrained, all things considered.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
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Silver2195 posted:

I actually think it was kind of dumb of Wendy to switch back like that, given how injured Wendy's body was and how uninjured Eileen's body was. She should really have just killed Eileen and kept Eileen's body.

Nah, that just guarantees the win, because now Erza is fighting to avenger her fallen friend. That's like level 4 Nakama Power.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

chumbler posted:

It was remarkably restrained, all things considered.

I know what you mean. I was disappointed as well. :(:hf::(

As for Wendy hurting Eileen before the switch, wasn't pain something she can't feel anymore? I forgot most of the pity eileen chapter.

sharktamer
Oct 30, 2011

Shark tamer ridiculous
That title page :barf:

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.
Why there's never a frog nearby when needed?

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
We have dragons, we don't need frogs.

EDIT: Well, we had dragons.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Angry Lobster posted:

Why there's never a frog nearby when needed?

It would have to be a frog with high magical potential and skill with Enchantment magic.

So, uh, there's probably one in another guild. Frosch thinks so too. But not in Fairy Tail.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
Fairy Tail 518

In this week's chapter, SephirothEileen casts Meteor.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

RatHat posted:

Fairy Tail 518

In this week's chapter, SephirothEileen casts Meteor.

And Erza does her One Punch Man impersonation.

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Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
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Say Nothing posted:

And Erza does her One Punch Man impersonation.

While simultaneously going near full Goku.

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