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Like if you were loudly discussing your bowel movements in a restaurant and attempted to defend this by saying how it's a perfectly normal thing for friends to talk about, it would be a reasonable to start with either "nah that's a little weird" or "context matters" because both are true.
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married but discreet posted:Nah he's not a nazi, no punching. Nah he's just a misogynist, racist, rape apologist, homonationalist traitor piece of poo poo. gently caress that piece of poo poo Uncle Tom.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:me @ this thread Me @ MHB: 
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Okay fine person who tends to antagonize me for no real reason, it is my fault for being near people talking loudly about the twist in a movie in an environment where it was very likely people are going to see it. Sorry for bothering you. I'm honestly too tired to argue about this poo poo and am still anxious about dying on a snowy mountain tonight and/or missing the chance I have of seeing Colossal at this festival. If I do not post again after tonight, know I died attempting to see an Anne Hathaway giant monster movie.
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Wasn't that movie tied down in some kinda copyright dispute? Is it really coming out?
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That spoiler study was weird anyways since (if I remember right) their definition of spoilers was like, being told about thematic elements
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:Wasn't that movie tied down in some kinda copyright dispute? Is it really coming out? Toho made some noise at first but it seems like they worked things out.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:Wasn't that movie tied down in some kinda copyright dispute? Is it really coming out? It was just some poo poo from when the film was in the early development and pitch stages for investors - the filmmakers used Godzilla strictly to give money-people at Cannes ideas of what it's about, Toho got wind of it and got pissed, missing the point completely that the monster was never going to look or behave anything like Godzilla. The lawsuit went nowhere and was settled out of court. Toho even covered their own legal costs. It was more of a big misunderstanding than a scandal, so we don't have to worry about the international kaiju renaissance being deterred.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:You do get some superbowls that are amazing like Eagles/Patriots, Giants/Patriots or Seahawks/Patriots, but more often you get superbowls without the Patriots Steelers/Cardinals and 49ers/Ravens were both really good
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Jaki Liebezeit died  https://youtu.be/9a1NhRbNJ_Y
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No one is mentioning that it's also a new Nacho Vigalondo movie.
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CPL593H posted:Nah he's just a misogynist, racist, rape apologist, homonationalist traitor piece of poo poo. Agreed actually.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Steelers/Cardinals and 49ers/Ravens were both really good Okay okay so maybe I'm mostly just mad about the number of lopsided beatings the NFL's given us in the last two years  e: also Seahawks/Broncos was so bad it should really count double
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As cool as it is to see the dumb neo-nazi talking head get punched, though, affecting actual change against the aligned executive and legislative branches is going to be much more complicated and treacherous.
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Anonymous Robot posted:As cool as it is to see the dumb neo-nazi talking head get punched, though, affecting actual change against the aligned executive and legislative branches is going to be much more complicated and treacherous. Well obviously. You just have to appreciate the little victories. Plus it's hilarious that we not only saw a nazi get punched, but punched the second he brought up some dumb internet meme poo poo.
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Anonymous Robot posted:As cool as it is to see the dumb neo-nazi talking head get punched, though, affecting actual change against the aligned executive and legislative branches is going to be much more complicated and treacherous. We're gonna need a bigger fist.
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You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
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Kurt Cobain posted:You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
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Really though I see a lot of people on some "direct action will stop them" and I'm like, theoretically, but in real terms that means interfering with the carrying out of the law, which means coming up against the executive branch, who are better equipped for this kind of thing than the frog meme man. I worry about that.
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Anonymous Robot posted:Really though I see a lot of people on some "direct action will stop them" and I'm like, theoretically, but in real terms that means interfering with the carrying out of the law, which means coming up against the executive branch, who are better equipped for this kind of thing than the frog meme man. I worry about that. If half as many people came out to stop the police from rounding up immigrants or muslims as came out yesterday, the police could never succeed. They are reluctant to murder white people who can't be written off as radicals or criminals. If there are enough media left by that point to show it to the world, we'd be in civil rights movement territory. Join your local DSA! I did just last week.
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I think non-violence is important, even for worthless shitheaps. It's tough, especially when someone like Spencer has one of the most punchable faces.
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I will say having seen the movie that the spoiler was pretty big, but the movie was pretty mediocre so 
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Skwirl thanks for the books. I've started reading the Parker novel and so far it's dope.
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Egbert Souse posted:Me @ MHB: Man that was a great show.
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Egbert Souse posted:I think non-violence is important, even for worthless shitheaps. It's tough, especially when someone like Spencer has one of the most punchable faces. When a dude is literally calling for black genocide, I think it's probably okay to punch him in the face.
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Jack Gladney posted:If half as many people came out to stop the police from rounding up immigrants or muslims as came out yesterday, the police could never succeed. They are reluctant to murder white people who can't be written off as radicals or criminals. If there are enough media left by that point to show it to the world, we'd be in civil rights movement territory. I have bad experiences in general with far-left groups, and the DSA looks pretty similar to the ISO and CPUSA. I'm currently trying to figure out the surely-dreadful aspects of the Progressive Labor Party. I'm hopeful, but hearing that a predominantly middle-class white party had some degree of contention with the Black Panthers doesn't make me optimistic.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:When a dude is literally calling for black genocide, I think it's probably okay to punch him in the face. It's not. We're better than that. Our weapons are ideas, reason, and truth. Now, violence is more than justified as defense, but don't be the one to throw the first punch.
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My weapon is a spiked skull on the end of a chain.
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Egbert Souse posted:It's not. We're better than that. Our weapons are ideas, reason, and truth. Good luck with that. John D'amico is once again putting things more eloquently than I can: https://twitter.com/jodamico1/status/823285053706878978
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much like compromise, the only value of peaceful protest is when it's the more effective strategy for getting what you want
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:much like compromise, the only value of peaceful protest is when it's the more effective strategy for getting what you want Yeah. Personally, I don't advocate for violence for two reasons: One, because violence has consequences for the perpetrator, and I don't feel comfortable advocating for someone else to assume the consequences of jail time or just getting the poo poo beat out of them, especially if I'm not willing to risk the same. And two, it's not a viable long-term political strategy, especially when the other side is much better equipped to dish out violence. But if a guy explicitly and publicly calls for genocide, then guess what? He assumes the consequences of potentially getting his teeth knocked down his throat whenever he shows his dumb face. And nobody is gonna feel bad for him, nor should they. Anyway, I'm just upset that the video of him getting punched set to Hatebreed got taken off YouTube 
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Good luck with that. yeah this. Also decorum, debate, etc., is how these clowns get legitimacy. They don't actually give a drat that Richard Spencer got punched in the face because their ideology is violence. They'll throw a fit about it for show, but acting like they're entitled to their opinions minimizes the horror of what their "opinion" is.
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Punch all nazis.
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I wanna meet the guy who decided High-Rise should be a period piece. I'd tell him that was a a really bad idea!
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everybody please lift your hands and lend Jessie James your spirit power.....! e: everybody, THANK YOU! ee: fuuuuuck. poo poo.
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Anonymous Robot posted:I have bad experiences in general with far-left groups, and the DSA looks pretty similar to the ISO and CPUSA. I'm currently trying to figure out the surely-dreadful aspects of the Progressive Labor Party. I'm hopeful, but hearing that a predominantly middle-class white party had some degree of contention with the Black Panthers doesn't make me optimistic. Maybe look up the list of sponsors for your closest satellite women's march? Or just wait for it to happen. You'll know when it all starts.
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