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puncher should if caught be arrested and charged and tried because what he did was Illegal but that doesn't make him wrong
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Novo posted:Jokes aside if you find yourself wishing violence on the "other half" of the country or feel it would be justified you need to (and I hate this term) do some soul searching. Violence is never justified except in self defense. The moment you resort to violence your message is irrelevant. half the country are nazis??
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Lowtax posted:(I am not sure who defines "evil" here) evil is defined by being a nazi
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a good barometer for evil: literally drawing up plans for genocide, publishing articles espousing genocide
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gently caress Whitey posted:like seriously richard what do you think should have happened? homie should have just been left alone to be a hateful gently caress consequence-free? how would that change anything, if we're playing the "read the future" game
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Lowtax posted:(I am not sure who defines "evil" here) is advocating genocide really that evil, guys
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Lowtax posted:I'm getting tired of repeating the same thing over and over and over again, so I'm about to respectfully bow out of this thread. The issue is not about punching Dick Spencer. We all agree that was good and funny. The issue I've been TRYING to discuss was if this type of action should be accepted and encouraged in the future. I would argue fighting with groups of facists marching through the streets would be OK. Like targeted assassinations and poo poo probably wouldn't be the best. juggalo baby coffin posted:tbh the milquetoast, cowardly response most liberals have had to nazipunchgate is the reason the conservatives have managed to push things so far to the right over the past three decades for real liberals are called pussies constantly and then when they stop being pussies all of a sudden they are horrific violence monsters a misanthrope fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Thirsty Girl posted:half the country are nazis?? well, useful idiots maybe
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Rakosi posted:Maybe you should hold on to your 2nd amendmant rights. Germany never had those. Lol at horseshoe theory Just lmao you loving idiot
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Jan 23, 2017 03:18
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Lowtax posted:Do you think that him getting punched will make him suddenly stop being a racist idiot? Because I just looked at his twitter account and it's the same bullshit he was saying before, but now he's even more upset with the people he vilifies. No. Do you think anything will?
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Lowtax posted:Do you think that him getting punched will make him suddenly stop being a racist idiot? Because I just looked at his twitter account and it's the same bullshit he was saying before, but now he's even more upset with the people he vilifies. if you want to do the "well nobody's answering me" thing you need to answer other people too what do you think should have happened? should he be allowed to advocate for genocide and have an effect on american politics free of any consequences? how does arguing with him have any effect whatsoever?
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Novo posted:well, useful idiots maybe and thus they shouldn't get hurt, nobody should get hurt for just being dumb like there's no slippery slope here, the punchening is specifically for nazi fucks
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Lowtax posted:Do you think that him getting punched will make him suddenly stop being a racist idiot? Because I just looked at his twitter account and it's the same bullshit he was saying before, but now he's even more upset with the people he vilifies. I didn't want to seriouspost about this but I attended a counter protest which shut down a bunch of actual nazis rallying and they haven't rallied for like a year and a half
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Rakosi posted:Maybe you should hold on to your 2nd amendmant rights. Germany never had those. you are retarted as gently caress dude
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watch out guys, the guy who advocates exterminating the blacks and the jews is getting mad!!!! he's going to escalate to
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Recoome posted:I didn't want to seriouspost about this but I attended a counter protest which shut down a bunch of actual nazis rallying and they haven't rallied for like a year and a half punk rock scenes have been chasing nazis out for thirty years and it turns out the most effective way to do it is to Bash The Fash
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Recoome posted:I didn't want to seriouspost about this but I attended a counter protest which shut down a bunch of actual nazis rallying and they haven't rallied for like a year and a half also a thing about nazis: they are huge cowards, a show of tangible resistance rattles them in a way no words possibly can
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juggalo baby coffin posted:a good barometer for evil: literally drawing up plans for genocide, publishing articles espousing genocide
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juggalo baby coffin posted:a good barometer for evil: literally drawing up plans for genocide, publishing articles espousing genocide
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Lowtax posted:Making an incredibly stupid "what if" situation like A misanthrope did. to be honest i am pretty retarded
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Lowtax posted:Do you think that him getting punched will make him suddenly stop being a racist idiot? Because I just looked at his twitter account and it's the same bullshit he was saying before, but now he's even more upset with the people he vilifies. Non serious reply: Sounds like he needs another punch to the mouth.
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Lowtax posted:Again, nobody has been able to answer my question I've posed repeatedly. What type of violence should be acceptable? Is just punching allowed, or can we kick? Hit them with a brick? Break their legs? Put them into a coma? Hit them with a car? Murder them? Then, who determines if the victim was evil enough to justify the assault? How does a government agency regulate and objectively define where the line is regarding beliefs that should be punishable by assault? Lowtax please go ask this in a thread that isn't for jokes, because you will never find a satisfactory answer in this one. You keep trying here and it just ain't gonna happen, my man.
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i said this earlier but its not that he has a Different Opinion hes notgetting punched over corn subsidies he literally espouses genocide, and not in a euphemistic "the lord will strike them down with aids" fred phelps way, no, he does it in a "we should kill the untermenschen" way with diagrams gently caress anyone who tries this "actually the other guy is just as bad because the truth is in the middle" pussy rear end bullshit
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Who What Now posted:Lowtax please go ask this in a thread that isn't for jokes, because you will never find a satisfactory answer in this one. You keep trying here and it just ain't gonna happen, my man. please don't because it's going to go in the same circles
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gently caress Whitey posted:is advocating genocide really that evil, guys
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What about his parents? Surely they deserve a slap or two.
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also there are many legal precedents for hate speech and even 'fighting words', ie talk poo poo get hit
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How exactly do you reasonably engage with "let's get rid of all the black people, just, y'know, make them go away"  Some ideas: "Maybe not!" "That's not very nice!" "What would you do with all the corpses?" e: #3 is not a very good line of argument because the WWII Nazis actually found answers 
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Jan 23, 2017 03:23
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Lowtax posted:What I was saying was that if you want to be able to legally assault people because they're evil nobody said anything about making it legal to punch the nazis Richard Dear
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this is the pepe I remember!
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...and the pitch! posted:No. Do you think anything will? Being dead, moving out of his mom's chalet, or being forced to work a real job instead of being a thinkfluencer.
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Lowtax posted:Do you think that him getting punched will make him suddenly stop being a racist idiot? Because I just looked at his twitter account and it's the same bullshit he was saying before, but now he's even more upset with the people he vilifies. I think the ideal scenario is enough of these mouth breathers get their rear end beat when vocalizing their poo poo opinions that the opinions go unvoiced and are kept hidden and unspoken where they belong
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gently caress Whitey posted:nobody said anything about making it legal to punch the nazis Richard Dear Wow, Rude tune, Mr.
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Lowtax posted:Jesus Christ, I never claimed that genocide wasn't evil. What I was saying was that if you want to be able to legally assault people because they're evil, you must first have some government organization that defines "evil" in an objective and clear way, so the public completely understands which people can be targeted. Of course advocating genocide is evil, but if you're talking about making a major change in the law, one promoting and allowing assault, people better be drat well clear as to whom they can assault. who said 'legally'?
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Lowtax posted:Do you think that him getting punched will make him suddenly stop being a racist idiot? Because I just looked at his twitter account and it's the same bullshit he was saying before, but now he's even more upset with the people he vilifies. It isn't so much about the hope that they'll magically change their mind through the art of pugilism, but more about demonstrating that we are not prey that will meekly hold out our necks to let their fascist boot gracefully step on. Fascist win by default if isn't anyone with balls to stand up their bullshit. Hoping you can calmly and politely prevent their rise to power is exactly what they bank on. There is a major difference between something being moral and something being legal. You can't use the legality of a thing to prove its morality. Examples: Slavery, Jim Crow, Etc. D.Ork Bimboolean fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Lowtax posted:Jesus Christ, I never claimed that genocide wasn't evil. What I was saying was that if you want to be able to legally assault people because they're evil, you must first have some government organization that defines "evil" in an objective and clear way, so the public completely understands which people can be targeted. Of course advocating genocide is evil, but if you're talking about making a major change in the law, one promoting and allowing assault, people better be drat well clear as to whom they can assault. what is a nazi anyway
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Flesh Forge posted:How exactly do you reasonably engage with "let's get rid of all the black people, just, y'know, make them go away" The same way you deal with the guy who thinks UFOs are transmitting eggnog recipes into his fillings. So if you're in public, you politely ignore him. If he's at your door with a gun then that's different.
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Lowtax posted:Do you think that him getting punched will make him suddenly stop being a racist idiot? Because I just looked at his twitter account and it's the same bullshit he was saying before, but now he's even more upset with the people he vilifies. do you think that beating the poo poo out of the neo nazi figureheads won't affect the influence of the movement at all? gently caress that lowtax, being reactionary is the worst possible way to deal with this kind of poo poo because by the time that it's gained enough momentum and influence to start it's """peaceful""" genocide it'll be too late. you have to be proactive to start this poo poo from happening in the first place, and a few ugly shitters with undercuts getting concussions is a small price to pay.
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Novo posted:The same way you deal with the guy who thinks UFOs are transmitting eggnog recipes into his fillings. ...via punching?
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