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I'm just not convinced about violence. Why can't we just dump a bucket of piss on fascists? (Or is it because they might like it)
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:All the OG BPP were killed or thrown in the deepest holes. That's how you know they were taken totally seriously. I only read chunks of Huey's Revolutionary Suicide back in the day but it was killer. I read bits of Soul on Ice and Cleaver himself was just baring far too much humanity for me to comprehend back then. I was like 18. I really need to revisit it. Played the poo poo out of the Ras Kass album tho.
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Jan 23, 2017 03:32
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:These articles were all over the drat place for a while, usually accompanied by a picture of him jogging, but people seem to be coming around. He's the liberal version of shirtless Putin, right down to actually being unattractive.
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Jan 23, 2017 03:32
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Egbert Souse posted:I'm just not convinced about violence. As a literal reformed neo-nazi I can promise you that it wasn't reason that made me come around, it was spending time around leftists who I liked as people plus fear of being ostracized. This sounds terrible to say but basically people don't change their minds because you convince them logically, they change their mind for emotional reasons, most notably "in order to have consensus with the people they respect / who are close to them." Cults survive because they cut off relationships with anyone who isn't indoctrinated, so my #1 priority would be to just teach loving history in primary school and encourage as many people as possible to go to college. If that still doesn't reach someone that's unfortunate and I hate to give up on anyone completely, but at the same time, at a certain point you have to consider the relative value of trying to change one person's mind vs. legitimizing them in the eyes of others. Punching that dude in the face on the news sends a message that's ultimately more socially valuable than the cost of his bruises and hurt feelings.
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Jan 23, 2017 03:37
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Just as Canada looks like a good country because everyone compares it to the US, Trudeau will look like a good prime minister because everyone is going to compare him to Trump.Egbert Souse posted:Why can't we just dump a bucket of piss on fascists? It's a logistics problem. Filling an entire bucket with piss is surprisingly hard, and it gets really heavy when you have to carry it around all day.
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Jan 23, 2017 03:38
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I say we invite the fascists, one at a time, to a school dance. have the piss bucket waiting and rdy to go
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Jan 23, 2017 03:40
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I don't think awakening the fascists latent telekinetic abilities is such a good idea.
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Jan 23, 2017 03:42
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Samuel Clemens posted:I don't think awakening the fascists latent telekinetic abilities is such a good idea. That only works with blood, piss just gives you a searing telepathic headache
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Jan 23, 2017 03:43
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Egbert Souse posted:I'm just not convinced about violence. Who's stopping you?
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Jan 23, 2017 03:44
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this is elementary bodily fluid science here
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Jan 23, 2017 03:45
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light cops and nazis on fire because there is no difference, hail satan
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Jan 23, 2017 03:46
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Napalm piss
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Fill a supersoaker with piss and you can use that to more easily drench the fascistsgently caress Whitey posted:light cops and nazis on fire because there is no difference, hail satan Don't light my friend Amanda on fire, she's in training right now because she's hella gay and liberal and wants to make the world a better place 
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Jan 23, 2017 03:48
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Coffee And Pie posted:Fill a supersoaker with piss and you can use that to more easily drench the fascists all i hear is that she's a brownshirt facsisst for me to poop on
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Jan 23, 2017 03:49
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gently caress Whitey posted:all i hear is that she's a brownshirt facsisst for me to poop on We have matching equality tattoos. That's how gay.
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Jan 23, 2017 03:54
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:As a literal reformed neo-nazi I can promise you that it wasn't reason that made me come around, it was spending time around leftists who I liked as people plus fear of being ostracized. This sounds terrible to say but basically people don't change their minds because you convince them logically, they change their mind for emotional reasons, most notably "in order to have consensus with the people they respect / who are close to them." That's an excellent argument. I'm not as concerned with changing minds that don't want to be changed, but sending that message that this sort of viewpoint has no place in modern society. The scariest thing about all this is how the right has absolutely turned on the education systems. They don't want schools or colleges to exist without being a place for indoctrination. I've never heard so much anti-student sentiment in my life. The family members I know who talk poo poo about college students now are the same ones who thought it was great I went to college ten years ago. Maybe violence is the answer and I'm afraid to realize that. Uncle Boogeyman posted:Who's stopping you? Well, I guess it is kind of impractic- Coffee And Pie posted:Fill a supersoaker with piss and you can use that to more easily drench the fascists I like the cut of your jib, C&P. Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Jan 23, 2017 03:56
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Samuel Clemens posted:I don't think awakening the fascists latent telekinetic abilities is such a good idea. I don't think it's possible to be both braindead and psychic.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:01
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Egbert Souse posted:Maybe violence is the answer and I'm afraid to realize that. I mean, like I said, I don't advocate in favor of violence for a bunch of reasons. I'm just saying it's not worth feeling at all bad or guilty about a nazi dickhead getting tuned up. There emphatically is not a more "dude had it coming" candidate than that. Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Jan 23, 2017 04:02
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If we're going to be violent towards fascists, can we at least be more creative than punches? I like the idea of going around inflicting violence on fascists, except limiting myself to only methods used by Bugs Bunny or Kevin McAllister. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTPq0mNS0-0&t=34s
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Jan 23, 2017 04:08
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Egbert Souse posted:If we're going to be violent towards fascists, can we at least be more creative than punches? gently caress you they dont deserve a single bit of my brainpower
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Jan 23, 2017 04:08
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:Napalm piss Turning life into the leftist version of Postal 2 might not be that bad. gently caress Whitey posted:gently caress you they dont deserve a single bit of my brainpower Are wedgies and shoving them in lockers still on the table
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Jan 23, 2017 04:10
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I mean don't get me wrong I think it'd be rad if someone did this to Richard Spencer but I don think it's happening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaBh-B6F2sk "You are a vicious bastard, Spencer, and, uh, I'm glad you're dead!" Side note, I rewatched Batman '89 the other night and gently caress is it good.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:10
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Egbert Souse posted:If we're going to be violent towards fascists, can we at least be more creative than punches? There is a certain poetic justice in burning them alive, yes. If you haven't realized by his candlelight dinner where he prepares the brutal torture of two unknowing men, Kevin McAllister is a psychopath.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:11
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RandallODim posted:Are wedgies and shoving them in lockers still on the table YES Get one of them to hold a stack of books just to make them drop them, then yell NEEEEERRRRRRD before running away. Uncle Boogeyman posted:I mean don't get me wrong I think it'd be rad if someone did this to Richard Spencer but I don think it's happening. That would be beautiful. Maybe not the burnt to a crisp level, but poking with an electric cattle prod would be sufficient. There's potential in intersecting anti-fascist action and performance art.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:15
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Saw "Sailor Moon R" (1993) today. Yer man been reading a bit of Laura Mulvey lately so I'm in the 2nd-wave mindset, but Sailor Moon is clearly a product of third-wave thinking. (I don't know a lot about Sailor Moon, this is my first time seriously watching anything Sailor Moon as an adult). Sailor Moon R is almost nonsensical and its narrative is nearly nonexistent. The pleasure is entirely visual- this is a world of crystals and flower petals, where character growth is demonstrated through sparkling, psychedelic transformation sequences. It seems to me that the center of pleasure in Sailor Moon is highly material; more specifically, it invests very heavily in the pleasure of clothing, and the transformative potential of clothing and masquerade as a means of negotiating femininity in pubescence. I wouldn't say that "Sailor Moon R" is locked within patriarchal constructs- in fact, I'm still trying to figure out why it is that it uses the cinematic language of the male gaze, but feels like there isn't an intended male audience- but I'm interested to hear, from Sailor Moon fans, if the more contemporary material has evolved in its portrayals and in the way that it navigates the depiction of women characters? PS: Sailor Jupiter is the best guardian and we are married now and it's forever haters
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Anonymous Robot posted:Saw "Sailor Moon R" (1993) today. Yer man been reading a bit of Laura Mulvey lately so I'm in the 2nd-wave mindset, but Sailor Moon is clearly a product of third-wave thinking. (I don't know a lot about Sailor Moon, this is my first time seriously watching anything Sailor Moon as an adult). all i really know about sailor moon is the lady who created it is married to the yuyu hakusho/hunterxhunter guy so they are p ok
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wanna hear what Anonymous Robot has to say after he watches Utena basically Sailor Moon R was Kunihiku Ikuhara's dry run for the show he actually wanted to make and he had very limited creative control over it
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:I only read chunks of Huey's Revolutionary Suicide back in the day but it was killer. That Ras Kass album just flooded back for me.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:26
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I mean don't get me wrong I think it'd be rad if someone did this to Richard Spencer but I don think it's happening. I still think the best part of that movie is Joker and Vicki's date. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Jan 23, 2017 04:27
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I still thing the best part of that movie is Joker and Vicki's date. You mean at the museum? 100% agreed.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I still thing the best part of that movie is Joker and Vicki's date. Yeah, no contest.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:29
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Every Nicholson line reading in that scene is perfect. "I don't know if it's art, but I like it!"
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:One of the great things about the playoffs is really how the play is so constrained because basically every good player is going to be fighting through injuries or not playing at all. Like at a certain point it just becomes about which team can endure crippling injuries the most to make it to the final and then the Superbowl is always a mediocre game between two banged-up teams. This is why actual football fans rarely give a care about the superbowl (also if you're a football enthusiast you probably like one of the teams that never makes it) We've had like 6 all time classic Super Bowls in the last decade, the heck are you talking about? Steelers Cards, Niners Ravens, Pats Giants 1 and 2, Pats Hawks, arguably Packers Steelers. And only two of those games feature a team I don't hate. Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Steelers/Cardinals and 49ers/Ravens were both really good Except the endings... Spatula City posted:When our opponents are literal Nazis, I'm not sure this is particularly useful. Peaceful protest only works on people that can be made to care. Nearly half the country wants to make the lives of the other half miserable. What does reason have to say against that? They aren't, or not all of them, not yet - Trump doesn't have anything like the sophisticated ideology of the Nazis or other interwar Fascists and his right populism is at most a desultory cousin - though obviously actual white nationalists and fascists seem to like what they see. But it's definitely worth remembering that Hitler had a specific plan for dealing with non violent resistors and Gandhi knew it - kill them. In light of the rebellion and resistance that were NOT sparked by the Holocaust, it's hard to see Gandhi's advice to the Jews as anything but discredited by history, unless you really do prefer a principled death for nonviolence to violent resistance. In which case, good luck. Did anyone see Midnight Special. That is an all time People With Interesting Faces cast and Nichols knew it. He lets close ups do all the heavy lifting.
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DeimosRising posted:Did anyone see Midnight Special. That is an all time People With Interesting Faces cast and Nichols knew it. He lets close ups do all the heavy lifting. That's a movie I've liked more and more since first seeing it back at the beginning of the year. Shannon is outstanding.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:36
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:That's a movie I've liked more and more since first seeing it back at the beginning of the year. Shannon is outstanding. It's almost shocking it's not adapted from a comic and not just cause of the Superman stuff. It feels like it has reams of excised plot, but not in a bad way.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:39
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The sex scene in Three Days of the Condor is really out of no where. Robert Redford kidnaps a girl, tells her a crazy story about the CIA and she just goes for it. Maybe it was to distract him? Doesn't seem like it.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I mean don't get me wrong I think it'd be rad if someone did this to Richard Spencer but I don think it's happening. Nicholson was by far the best Joker. It was the perfect balance of whimsy and menace, particularly in how everyone else treats him. All the other characters, particularly the extras and side characters, are just cartoonish enough to provoke this slightly suffocating air of otherness and unreality and really sell moments like when everyone goes bananas over his Money Parade. There's this slight humor, and then it's not really funny anymore. The way the film gets you is so good, and totally missing from the Heath Ledger performance.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:45
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With Take Shelter and Midnight Special, Shannon shot up to being one of my favorite actors. I remember everyone turning on Burton's Batman when TDK came out and being baffled cause 89 is loving dope as hell.
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Jan 23, 2017 04:46
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Egbert Souse posted:The scariest thing about all this is how the right has absolutely turned on the education systems. That's what terrifies me. My wife is a teacher and works for the University of Wisconsin, which has eaten almost a billion dollars in funding cuts since Governor Walker took office (and everyone at UW is walking on pins and needles, since the governor is set to deliver his biennial budget proposal in a couple of weeks). Wisconsin Republicans actually had the gall to accuse UW's chancellor and president of malfeasance because there were a few hundred million dollars in an emergency reserve fund. Like, how dare a higher education institution have a rainy day fund? Already, my wife's position was eliminated once (the news was delivered the day after Christmas a few years ago) and she had to re-apply for the same position in a different center, and now that department is looking at cutbacks. The right has somehow made anti-intellectualism not only acceptable, but a virtue, which is just incomprehensible to me. Magic Hate Ball posted:The way the film gets you is so good, and totally missing from the Heath Ledger performance. Ledger's "hhhhiiiiiii" in Dent's hospital room is brilliant, though. Cracks me up every time.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I still think the best part of that movie is Joker and Vicki's date. Keaton's "YOU WANNA GET NUTS?!" wins for me but that is so loving close with the perfect Prince soundtrack and how frenetic the direction on Joker's, erm, redesigning is.
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