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Do it ironically posted:Aha gently caress off poor trolling attempt, I'm a P Eng, and yeah no poo poo 3k isn't a lot for say New York City but I have no idea what buying power is in China 3k is living well in China, even Beijing. But it's still only 3k for when it comes time to put your kid in school and/or retire, plus the opportunity cost to your career for torpedoing it if you take time off in the middle of it to be a househusband in China, a place with drawbacks for days.
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Do it ironically posted:my wife wants to take a job in beijing (not english teaching), it pays $3,000 US a month, and they provide flights, medical insurance, and housing 3,000 USD a month will barely cover international school costs for your kid, so unless your kid is a toddler, you'll need another source of income personally speaking i have a one year old and i am doing everything in my power to get him away from china for as long as possible. but that's just me. if your wife was offered like 20,000 rmb/month, it's definitely decent if it is after taxes and housing is included. for a family tho idk. you'll probably want to find work, but if you're on a family visa you won't be allowed to work legally so you'll end up like teaching english on the side or being a foreign model by like pretending to play the keyboard in the mall, or something. if your life is total crap then go ahead and go for it but if you have a pretty comfortable existence i wouldn't recommend it "for adventure". you're raising a kid, that's enough of an adventure, you don't need to bring it to china. if you want an adventure go rock climbing or camping this weekend
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Be smart about it. It might be a good move for your wife but it's not good for you or your child. Let her go pursue her Chinese dream for a few years and stay in Canada with your kid.
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Hey china! You know 3 Kingdoms yes? Shutup about it.
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JaucheCharly posted:Taiwan goons, how is the best China's chabuduo game? I want to know, is it something that communist rule brought forth? I'm always like 4 pages behind but here's popular Taiwanese rapper MC Hot Dog's most famous song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrqKvu-rqIc It's called Mr. Chabuduo, and he says 差不多 about 43000 times in it. e: and here's my favorite mc 热狗 song, “Wo ai tai mei" which is seen by PRC officials as a subversive anti-mainland song which just made it more popular with younger Chinese kids when it came out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ8mn5fS5_M Do it ironically posted:my wife wants to take a job in beijing (not english teaching), it pays $3,000 US a month, and they provide flights, medical insurance, and housing Beijing has so many white people and so much english those are not the reasons you should/shouldn't go. Other people wrote a lot of good reasons to think about, but Beijing has such a large number of english speaking expats and services set up for them this is the least of your concerns. Ailumao fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Why would you move a small child into the smog of Beijing?
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I remember being a kid in KL in the 90s and the smog being so bad that I came home early from school sick most days. Eventually we even had to spend a month in Malaysia while we waited for the seasonal rains to flush the air out and put out the crop burning fires in Indonesia that were compounding the poor air quality. If that sounds like the conditions you want your kid to live in, then by all means move to Beijing.
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Do it ironically posted:Yeah that's one thing to leave my current job and not work would be frustrating after a while for sure The Great Autismo! does make a great point about the age of your kid tho. If they hella young, you gotta weigh the immersion level Chinese against the otherwise quite mediocre education OR it being hella expensive but you still get that sweet sweet language poo poo. Even if it is Chinese, being bilingual from an early age is super. this is like the greeks tracing their history back to the time of the gods for historical accuracy
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The Great Autismo! posted:3,000 USD a month will barely cover international school costs for your kid, so unless your kid is a toddler, you'll need another source of income Yeah, bear in mind that the "good" schools all have super air purification systems and domes over the sports fields. Afaik the other, let's call them tier 2/3 schools, have no air cleaning equipment and your kids just breath the smog. The good ones cost an arm and a leg. http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/15/health/china-beijing-smog-tale-of-two-cities/index.html
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Do it ironically posted:nah im in my early thirties Give your kid a decent childhood with a chance to enjoy the outdoors with unpolluted air and uncontaminated food. Stay in Canada. Don't underestimate the effect pollution will have on your child's development. Additionally, lead paint is still an issue in apartments and food safety will always be a concern, even if you shop at places like Metro that carry foreign brands. There's a good reason why so many people end their China adventures once they have a kid.
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If you have a P.E., how does $3,000 a month sound worth it to you? You should be making a lot more than that right now unless you live in an extremely low cost of living area. Line up a job before you go, and hopefully you have some connections with a an international firm because there's not a lot of reason for a local Chinese firm to hire you when they can get a fresh Chinese university grad to chabuduo it for a tenth your salary. Like if you desperately want to live in China for the experience you can do it. But if you and the kid are just along for the ride and you're just going to move there without a job and fire resumes into the smog it's insane.
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Do it ironically posted:nah im in my early thirties JK. Dude, that is child abuse. Don't bring your kid to one of the most toxic places on the planet. It's not just the air; it's the water, it's the food (soil and water), it's the building materials in the house you live in, the products you use (mmm, lead!), it's the selfish and chabudou culture that allows every corner to be cut or lied about... it's practically everything. There are redeeming qualities might be found in other parts of China, but going right to the heart of the most polluted area of China is not going to help your situation. Raising a kid in China, especially in Dongbei, is one of the dumbest things anyone can do and should be considered a form of child abuse. Think about how vulnerable your kid's immune system is right now, and how much poo poo is going to go into it. The level of fatal childhood leukemia and lung cancer should be enough of a reason not to bring your kid here. Anyone in China or going to China needs to read this book. It's a little old already, but it summarizes how much the poo poo around us actually ends up in our bodies and what it does to us without us realizing it: https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Gotten-into-Us-Staying/dp/1400068037 There's an ebook edition out there too (you can also find epub/kindle versions on download sites...). Outrail posted:Haier getting into a serious relationship with a cop's ex-soldier sister would be an amazing finish. P-Mack posted:But we all know he's gonna have an update or two about how it's going great and she might be the one, then a week or two later come back with an insane tale of how he just got Chinared harder than ever before. It's ok. I'm tired of meeting crazy people or letting them come to my house. They are all gone and now, and I am not even interested to replace or meet new people in that capacity. No more spelunking in the hair caves.
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The Great Autismo! posted:3,000 USD a month will barely cover international school costs for your kid, so unless your kid is a toddler, you'll need another source of income This right here! If you want your kid to have a decent learning experience (a school that isn't filthy and snacks/meals that are not gym mat stuffing) while you are there, $1,500-2,500 (per month, per child) is the ballpark you're going to have to shoot for.
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A young single person going to Beijing for 3000 a month, sure why not. A family with a kid? gently caress no why would you even consider that.
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Do it ironically posted:Aha gently caress off poor trolling attempt, I'm a P Eng, and yeah no poo poo 3k isn't a lot for say New York City but I have no idea what buying power is in China This was to trolling like you moving to China is trolling your kid.
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Raising a child in China by choice is abuse, at best you're shaving life expectency off the kid. At worst, the air pollution, poisoned water, fake food and high cost of quality education will leave its marks.quote:Arglebargle III posted: Vice - pollution in china Journeyman - Chinas pollution emergency Under the dome documentary with subtitles China - tainted milk scandal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkk7Fi4gstw Baby milk smuggling China - Fake meat China Airpocalypse now China bullet train crash and cover up. Tianjin explosion Chinas car score zero for safety Heavy metal poisoning in China   A normal beijing scene: 
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BCR posted:Raising a child in China by choice is abuse, at best you're shaving life expectency off the kid. At worst, the air pollution, poisoned water, fake food and high cost of quality education will leave its marks.
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https://i.imgur.com/gUC8cjZ.gifv - NWS Hot elevator action Mongol throat singing euro dance snake edition Thanks for all the stories Haier, you should write a small book about it all. BCR fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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BCR posted:Raising a child in China by choice is abuse, at best you're shaving life expectency off the kid. At worst, the air pollution, poisoned water, fake food and high cost of quality education will leave its marks. 
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Wow. You take your kid out for a meal as a treat in China and the end result can literally be them eating fake poisoned food laced with formaldehyde and pesticide. Nice place.
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I love it that drunk chinese dudes are filled with impotent rage and lash out by violently kicking inanimate objects like doors, walls, and parked cars like in some countries when youre drunk maybe you want an excuse to gently caress someone up, but in china you risk getting hurt so its better to fight something that can't hit back by the way that's also why fights in china are almost entirely push-kicks and jumping kicks - you have the most distance and the least likely chance of hurting yourself while doing it
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Vesi posted:20k rambos after housing is fine, a good school for the kid might cost a bit more but maybe you can homeschool? Not to mention the young child that was mentioned.
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LentThem posted:by the way that's also why fights in china are almost entirely push-kicks and jumping kicks - you have the most distance and the least likely chance of hurting yourself while doing it Taking a week of boxing training would make you a nearly unstoppable force going to China. I've seen a bunch of "fights" when I was there, and 90% of them fell into the following categories... -women grabbing each others hair and dragging each other to the ground (mistress encounters?) -guys grabbing each others clothes and doing a bad imitation of the tango -guys pushing each other and doing ineffective swatting -guys kicking and stomping on someone on the ground (usually 6 on 1) -like you said, guys jumping and kicking, falling on their rear end, running 10 paces away, then repeating the process over and over like some sort of retarded jousting Whenever my friends and I encountered a drunken Chinese guy fight, we would usually run away as it was possible someone would decided to tell the cops we started it, or the guys fighting might decide to join forces again the foreigners. Now Korea is a place I would not want to pick a fight, as there are a lot of guys who have taken martial arts as kids, and later on in their ROK service, and unlike China where guys are usually either 120lb waifs or 200lb 5'5" marshmallows, you can encounter some really solid and big guys who look like they know how to handle themselves. One guy I saw on the subway going back to Dongducheon was ~6'4", probably 220lbs and had fists the size of hams. He was listening to "Nobody" by the wonder girls on his phone (I could tell because he was humming along with it).
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To be honest, Trump's presidency probably is the "beginning of the end" for America. Of course, that doesn't mean that China's problems will all disappear and they'll be on top, etc.
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Blistex posted:Taking a week of boxing training would make you a nearly unstoppable force going to China. I've seen a bunch of "fights" when I was there, and 90% of them fell into the following categories... Tae Kwon Do is one of the most worthless martial arts as far as self defense goes though. No punching generally and definitely never no punching to the head. If you don't know how to fight I guess you could lose to a TKD guy but 95 times out of a hundred anyone who is a competent boxer or has had any other sort of actual martial art that allows punching to the head is going to make a mess out of them. #1 source of KOs in MMA? Right cross to the head. #1 source of KOs in boxing? Right cross to the head. #1 source of KOs in kickboxing, including Muay Thai? Right cross to the head. #1 thing that gets you a penalty in TKD? Right cross to the head. Punching someone in the head is absolutely our number one offensive capacity as unarmed humans and building a martial art that ignores it is absolutely moronic. If you're talking a Korean judoka or whatever that's a different issue, of course. raton fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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BCR posted:https://i.imgur.com/gUC8cjZ.gifv - NWS Hot elevator action the best part of this video is the dude who just kinda stares at the elevator, turns around, starts walking away like "yup just witnessed another one of my friends kill himself"
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Well, you can choose to let yourself be ruled by fear, sense or advice from well meaning goons. I say go with your heart. You're only gonna live once and there's way too many people that choose to just stay in their rut. We already have most of mankind just doing whatever; why not choose to follow your wife into something different? most of the goons here, you will note, are not dead yet. just get a good respirator for you and your family while you're still in Canada and things will probably work out fine Yorkshire Pudding posted:ArmchairWarrior.jpg Ryu ga Gotoku is, alas, deceptive when it comes to the weaponized quality of household furniture
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The Ping dynasty was followed by the Ming dynasty which was followed by the Qing dynasty
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The Great Autismo! posted:the best part of this video is the dude who just kinda stares at the elevator, turns around, starts walking away like "yup just witnessed another one of my friends kill himself" more like upset that he now has to take the stairs
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Well, you can choose to let yourself be ruled by fear, sense or advice from well meaning goons. this really isn't bad advice but the kid throws a whole wrench into it. like i've sat in an ambulance while someone is dying next to me and we are rushing to the hospital and we are a block away just sitting in traffic. and then you get to the hospital and someone needs their stomach pumped and the nurse says she doesn't have the courage to put the tube in the guy's throat and asks if i would do it. i've been physically attacked two times just minding my own business because i am a foreigner there are zero places to play outside that are not covered in feces and finished cigarettes. china is interesting and fascinating and cool and good but bringing a kid here by choice is insane. if you're mentally tough enough you can spend a few years in china and it will drastically increase your EQ and your street smarts and make you appreciate many things about your home country you took for granted. but for the love of God do not bring a child to China to live for an extended period of time
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I mean, I want to say try out the long distance thing, with her in China, him in Canada and kid and him visiting frequently but tbh as someone that was rather burned by a long distance relationship I can't recommend it Also can't help but wonder how me living in a nordic country colours the whole thing because there will always be a part of me thinking "anywhere outside the Nordics is only half-civilized at best anyway" so the differences between China and the US don't feel as big to me. Though exchange students to the US are not usually supplied with respirators before going there soooooo Also, funny fact of the day before I go to sleep; because Macau is part of the Schengen area I can travel there super easily technically. But there isn't a whole lotta point in just visiting that place, is there?
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If you do want to go to China, go to best China. Best China has a music scene. Best China has free access to the internet. Best China has the best museum in the world dedicated to Chinese culture. Best China has a people who aren't scarred from 40 years of living on Mt Dooms slag heap. Taiwan number one
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Well, you can choose to let yourself be ruled by fear, sense or advice from well meaning goons. I generally think people are far too risk adverse but an engineer near the beginning of his career with a toddler going to a C tier city so his wife can pull down a measly 3k a year is just error all around. It would be really admirable if they both wanted to live abroad with their kid but pick somewhere better than Beijing and somewhere that won't torpedo the household income. Deceitful Penguin posted:I mean, I want to say try out the long distance thing, with her in China, him in Canada and kid and him visiting frequently but tbh as someone that was rather burned by a long distance relationship I can't recommend it I don't know, that's tantamount to divorce IMO BCR posted:If you do want to go to China, go to best China. Yeah. Or Singapore or Bangkok or somewhere in Japan or Europe or some Carribean island or whatever. Even Hong Kong. Not Mainland China. raton fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I mean, I want to say try out the long distance thing, with her in China, him in Canada and kid and him visiting frequently but tbh as someone that was rather burned by a long distance relationship I can't recommend it Macau and Hong Kong are super cool and very beautiful and you should visit there if you're in Asia. Highly recommend both.
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