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Cybernetic Vermin posted:wonder if one wouldn't be able to make a facsimile good enough to have people go "oh, neat" by measuring two or more of acidity, electroconductivity, transparency, and color and just training a model to do a guess. there is a lot of sensors which aren't super-expensive which may be good enough to give you a clue of what is what this is exactly what it was. check out the patent filing. there is an array of led/photodiode pairs of various narrowband wavelengths, a capacitance sensor for permittivity measurement, and a temperature sensor for hot/cold. it probably would work well enough to get a "whoa" and a sale using preselected demonstration drinks. then once the coke goes flat and warm it will have no drat idea what is in it. the really funny thing about these sorts of "products" is that the big boy systems are prior art for the patent application, so they will have to somehow distinguish it from real laboratory or military fluid id systems. I've seen so many of these "smart" device patent apps run face first into ironclad rejections over industrial devices then argue "but ours is on a smartphone/consumer device!" only to get told by the examiner basically "yeah go tell someone who gives a gently caress about that because it ain't me and it ain't the courts. Rejection is maintained and final."
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Shifty Pony posted:the really funny thing about these sorts of "products" is that the big boy systems are prior art for the patent application, so they will have to somehow distinguish it from real laboratory or military fluid id systems. I've seen so many of these "smart" device patent apps run face first into ironclad rejections over industrial devices then argue "but ours is on a smartphone/consumer device!" only to get told by the examiner basically "yeah go tell someone who gives a gently caress about that because it ain't me and it ain't the courts. Rejection is maintained and final." i really appreciate this because, gently caress, smartphone support is not transformative in tyool 201X
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if only "on the internet" werent either
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huh, scio is apparently shipping? same kind of thing, near-IR that marketing rounded up to molecular analyzer
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if only that cup worked perfectly so i could carry a $200 cup everywhere i plan to drink a liquid. wait, is cum a liquid, or do i need a $200 plate now, too?
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Jan 21, 2017 00:05
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*cums in vessyl* *vessyl identifies contents as soylent*
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:if only that cup worked perfectly so i could carry a $200 cup everywhere i plan to drink a liquid. wait, is cum a liquid, or do i need a $200 plate now, too? it'll be labeled as milk but otherwise you'll be fine. Piss is labaled as either champagne or grappa depending on the weather.
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I'd think just temperature measurement, combined with the time location data from a smart phone that periodically asks questions would make a computer guess pretty well over time. "You're at work, not moving, drinking lovely diet soda again, aren't you?" "You're at Starbucks, monopolizing the padded chair for a second hour, lemme fuckin' guess what is inside me now." "You're in restraints at Frau Horsebender's, what could this 98.6 tablespoon be," etc.
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doctorfrog posted:Frau Horsebender's, m. knight shyamalan has gone too far
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duTrieux. posted:i really appreciate this because, gently caress, smartphone support is not transformative in tyool 201X pretty much. the exception is when it brings up some really strange problems that prior systems don't have to deal with b and they have some neat way to solve it. but that's rapidly getting tapped out because the shear volume of stuff out there about miniaturization and portable system means someone has probably already dealt with the same problem. what I enjoy seeing are the everything and the kitchen sink applications that were filed by crackpots right when the field started to get exposure and portable computing really started to be a thing (and then abandoned because crackpot). every subject has their own version of it and and they are a goldmine for strange combinations. oh you spent two solid years figuring out a solution to a problem? too bad Jimmy McNutjob happened to mention that same solution in paragraph 816 of his five hundred page rambling epic filed in 2002. I just used one in a rejection today actually.
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:*cums in vessyl*
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Shifty Pony posted:pretty much. the exception is when it brings up some really strange problems that prior systems don't have to deal with b and they have some neat way to solve it. but that's rapidly getting tapped out because the shear volume of stuff out there about miniaturization and portable system means someone has probably already dealt with the same problem. that's amazing. have any good stories?
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doctorfrog posted:I'd think just temperature measurement, combined with the time location data from a smart phone that periodically asks questions would make a computer guess pretty well over time. "You're at work, not moving, drinking lovely diet soda again, aren't you?" "You're at Starbucks, monopolizing the padded chair for a second hour, lemme fuckin' guess what is inside me now." "You're in restraints at Frau Horsebender's, what could this 98.6 tablespoon be," etc. just like all such machine learning tasks it'd be impressively accurate for that one guy of regular and healthy habits, while fooling the rest of us into thinking that our coworkers can't tell that you're drunk at work if not even a ~computer~ could figure out you were drinking straight vodka out of your $200 sippy cup
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Why do I need a cup to tell me what I put in it?
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keyboard vomit posted:Why do I need a cup to tell me what I put in it?
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Did nutrition labels disappear when I wasn't looking
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keyboard vomit posted:Did nutrition labels disappear when I wasn't looking those are mandated by the government and thus need to be 'disrupted'
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keyboard vomit posted:Did nutrition labels disappear when I wasn't looking how are you supposed to know the nutritional content of kombucha or IPA from the tap at your startup employer in SoMA???
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i still erfuse to drink kombucha. it doesn't help that people call it "booch" ugh
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keyboard vomit posted:Did nutrition labels disappear when I wasn't looking Those are so Jan 19th, this is a new era of freedom.
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duTrieux. posted:i still erfuse to drink kombucha. it doesn't help that people call it "booch" it smells so bad but tastes so borderline acceptable
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duTrieux. posted:i still erfuse to drink kombucha. it doesn't help that people call it "booch"
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keyboard vomit posted:Did nutrition labels disappear when I wasn't looking that's too hard to track, it's much easier to pour every beverage you drink into a cup that analyzes it and uploads the data to the cloud an actually slightly useful idea might be an app that takes photos of nutrition labels and ocrs them, does that exist or should i start the kickstarter?
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:that's too hard to track, it's much easier to pour every beverage you drink into a cup that analyzes it and uploads the data to the cloud
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i'm glad for the drink-identifying cup, because too often do i pour coke into my cup only to find out it was actually diarrhea!!
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did we ever discuss adoptly
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Endless Mike posted:i'm glad for the drink-identifying cup, because too often do i pour coke into my cup only to find out it was actually diarrhea!! yeah that's the danger of getting pepsi
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exploded mummy posted:did we ever discuss adoptly more like abortly
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anthonypants posted:there's standards on how nutrition labels are supposed to look, that might not be too hard. lol if you want to target a non-us country though you act as if other countries haven't standardised nutrition labels too.
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Maluco Marinero posted:you act as if other countries haven't standardised nutrition labels too. they dont generally seem as well laid out and clear for ocr as us ones
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Maluco Marinero posted:you act as if other countries haven't standardised nutrition labels too.
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:that's too hard to track, it's much easier to pour every beverage you drink into a cup that analyzes it and uploads the data to the cloud MyFitnessPal lets you enter food by scanning the barcode.
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European nutrition labels seem to have almost no standardization.
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you'd think the eu would have decreed a mandatory eu standard for nutrition labels but i guess not??
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fishmech posted:you'd think the eu would have decreed a mandatory eu standard for nutrition labels but i guess not?? the standard is so long and obtuse that nobody has finished reading it before signing it
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Cocoa Crispies posted:the standard is so long and obtuse that nobody has finished reading it before signing it wow, keep it to the PL thread
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fuggin' lol https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/earlyninja/earlyninja-the-platform-revolutionizing-early-acce
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Yodzilla posted:fuggin' lol https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/earlyninja/earlyninja-the-platform-revolutionizing-early-acce quote:Every game accepted onto the EarlyNinja platform will adhere to a detailed roadmap, agreed in advance with one of our experienced team managers or, as we call them, a Sensei, who will project manage the entire process.
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i asked them some genuine questions, curious if they get back to me
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I loving hate everything about this. "Yeah sensei we've got 100% of the graphics, but only 33% of the controls. We know this because it is easy to measure and quantify." quote:Here is what influencers from the gaming community think about the current state of Early Access: gently caress now I scrolled down to the photo of these incredibly punchable people Piss
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