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Call Me Charlie posted:You missed a part of my post. Waiting until nazis feel strong enough to attack to take actual effective action is morally repugnant. In other words: 
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Jan 23, 2017 23:11
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surely the laws will protect us, that worked so well before
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Jan 23, 2017 23:13
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if you punch a nazi you're basically a guy who bombs an abortion clinic - a confused liberal
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Jan 23, 2017 23:14
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It should always be punishable to punch the Nazi but I would never advise against it. Spicy food teaches us that some punishments are worth it.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:16
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I'm kinda mad at the bystander that tried to unmask the hitter tbh.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:19
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Higsian posted:I'm kinda mad at the bystander that tried to unmask the hitter tbh. Reflexively defending people under attack makes you a good person, which puts him ahead of Actual Nazi Richard Spencer.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:21
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Higsian posted:I'm kinda mad at the bystander that tried to unmask the hitter tbh. The one guy that chased after the antifa is super weird and like a alt right genocide supporter who wants to bring in more minorities to the cause or something along those lines that was really bizarre.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:23
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Lightning Knight posted:Reflexively defending people under attack makes you a good person, which puts him ahead of Actual Nazi Richard Spencer. Ok that's fair. I can forgive a reflex that kicks in before you remember it was a nazi getting hit.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:24
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So to more happily suit the thread, we shouldn't punch Nazis. Rear naked chokes are more efficient.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:25
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If you German suplex a Nazi, is it ironic or just appropriate?
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Jan 23, 2017 23:27
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PantherWill posted:If you German suplex a Nazi, is it ironic or just appropriate? things can be ironically appropriate
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Jan 23, 2017 23:30
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Call Me Charlie posted:I'll actually try to serious post. Kilroy posted:We should strive to normalize violence against Nazis, at the same time taking care not to normalize political violence in the general case. By the time you've gotten to the point where Nazis have influential positions in your government, you're well past the "liberal democracy" stage. Acting like a liberal democrat in in spite of that fact, both empowers the Nazis and gets people killed. This is what "lulled into complacency" feels like. You're so used to "we can talk it out" being a pillar of society that you've fooled yourself into thinking it's intrinsic to human nature itself. It is not, and even as fascists knock that pillar away you're convinced it still exists. Kilroy fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Jan 23, 2017 23:31
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Farting on a Nazi is most appropriate but definitely not enough imo.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:32
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Hogge Wild posted:Could you explain in your own words what you think that "battle" and "fascism" mean. goddamn you post like a little bitch
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Jan 23, 2017 23:38
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Pinch Me Im Meming posted:Farting on a Nazi is most appropriate but definitely not enough imo. making GBS threads on them is both more appropriate and more drastic
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Jan 23, 2017 23:38
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Deified Data posted:Law exists to serve justice, and necessarily has blindspots intentionally put into place by humans who wisely anticipated their own lack of objectivity - hence "it is illegal to assault someone". While I don't think that killing an abortion doctor should be legal, I think it is justified and will obviously do everything in my power to ensure such a person avoids punishment for committing such a self-evidently just act. Also, basically whatever Israel does to the nasty Nazi-like antisemites in Palestine is totally cool on the left fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Jan 23, 2017 23:44
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A Thesis On And Defense Of Punching Nazis In Three Tweets: https://twitter.com/libcomorg/status/823650250036547584 https://twitter.com/ArtDifficulty/status/823652026450137088 https://twitter.com/guanoman/status/823602952782938113
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Jan 23, 2017 23:47
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on the left posted:While I don't think that killing an abortion doctor should be legal, I think it is justified and will obviously do everything in my power to ensure such a person avoids punishment for committing such a self-evidently just act. That's pretty hosed up dude. Probably should feel that way about nazis instead.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:47
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The ideology eater posted:That's pretty hosed up dude. Probably should feel that way about nazis instead. All right-thinking people acknowledge that murdering millions of children is like another shoah, and that nobody would think twice about assasinating the modern equivalent of Dr. Goebbels in front of his family or using a pipe bomb to catch the collaborators as well.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:49
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quote:Do you think it's cool to punch a communist in the face when you see them in public? Or for someone to punch a known anti-war activist for being a traitor to the country? Is a pro-life bomber justified in bombing an abortion clinic because, in their eyes, a baby holocaust is happening? Is Joseph Paul Franklin a heroic figure for shooting and paralyzing known scumbag and pornographer Larry Flynt for showcasing interracial sex in his magazine? You're comparing apples and oranges here because, and I re-iterate, the Nazis are a hate group so the don't abide by societal laws. Like even in their perfect ubermensch future, there would still be Nazis saying "well you know maybe you're not the right kind of white" because, and I say again, they're a hate group.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:49
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on the left posted:All right-thinking people acknowledge that murdering millions of children is like another shoah, and that nobody would think twice about assasinating the modern equivalent of Dr. Goebbels in front of his family or using a pipe bomb to catch the collaborators as well. fetuses aren't children, hope this helps
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Jan 23, 2017 23:50
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stone cold posted:fetuses aren't children, hope this helps
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Jan 23, 2017 23:51
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don't engage "on the left" please, it's pointless (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jan 23, 2017 23:51
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stone cold posted:fetuses aren't children, hope this helps One simple trick to killing anyone without remorse: make their humanity up for debate
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Jan 23, 2017 23:54
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Man, all the liberals ITT who pontificate about punching Nazis are laughable. Back in the day even the most milquetoast of liberals agreed that machine-gunning Nazis in WWII was a good thing. What has changed? Certainly not the Nazis.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:54
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on the left posted:One simple trick to killing anyone without remorse: make their humanity up for debate fetuses: more human than human women
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Jan 23, 2017 23:55
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The ideology eater posted:Waiting until nazis feel strong enough to attack to take actual effective action is morally repugnant. Are you cool with this line of thought if it said communist instead of nazi? If not, that's probably why you shouldn't condone or encourage that type of behavior. Morally justified violence is a subjective thing and something that could easily be turned against you. Roland Jones posted:A Thesis On And Defense Of Punching Nazis In Three Tweets: https://twitter.com/csbg/status/822906233225117696 (wait why are we trying to use kids' entertainment as an argument?) __________________________ And again Kilroy posted:By the time you've gotten to the point where Nazis have influential positions in your government, you're well past the "liberal democracy" stage. Acting like a liberal democrat in in spite of that fact, both empowers the Nazis and gets people killed. Call Me Charlie posted:And honestly if you want to otherize literal neo-nazis and genocide advocates like Richard Spencer, you should stop trying to conflate them with Trump and the GOP.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:56
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Call Me Charlie posted:Are you cool with this line of thought if it said communist instead of nazi? If not, that's probably why you shouldn't condone or encourage that type of behavior. communists: well known for killing 12 million Jews, gay people, romani, mentally disabled people communists: love genocide communists: white supremacists
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Jan 23, 2017 23:57
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Pacifism and non-violence are cool and good. I'm a pacifist and a non-violent person. But defending oneself and one's friends against agression has never been at odds with pacifism and non-violence. This is basic survival, folks!
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Jan 23, 2017 23:57
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Flowers For Algeria posted:What has changed? Certainly not the Nazis. They aren't nearly as well dressed these days.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:58
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Pacifism and non-violence are cool and good. I'm a pacifist and a non-violent person. William Lloyd Garrison wants a word with you...
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Jan 24, 2017 00:00
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Call Me Charlie posted:Are you cool with this line of thought if it said communist instead of nazi? If not, that's probably why you shouldn't condone or encourage that type of behavior. oh no, the guy advocating for literal white nationalism may do violence if you're violent to him  we better not punch the nazi because he might make his racial cleansing agenda mor eviolent and it would be all our fault
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Jan 24, 2017 00:00
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someone who saves a woman from going through the traumatic experience of childbirth against her will even if she can't afford it or was raped is just like a nazi when u think about it
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Jan 24, 2017 00:01
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Rent-A-Cop posted:The nazis have changed. Fair point, but all the more reason to punch them. Man, I'm not even suggesting that you should machine-gun Nazis in the streets. I disapprove of the death penalty, even for political reasons. But if the authorities are not going to act against them in any meaningful way, then they should be made afraid to leave their homes, and made afraid to express their fascism in any public space.
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Jan 24, 2017 00:01
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Call Me Charlie posted:Are you cool with this line of thought if it said communist instead of nazi? If not, that's probably why you shouldn't condone or encourage that type of behavior. No! I also wouldn't be cool with it if it said babies! Just Nazis! Here is another diagram that may help: 
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Jan 24, 2017 00:08
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BUG JUG posted:William Lloyd Garrison wants a word with you... Man, I'd like to avoid talking with religious nuts if at all possible. Garrison was a principled man, all right, but there's a higher purpose at work in defending society against fascism. So if I must stain my hands and lose access to paradise in order to defend society, so be it: I'll go to hell knowing that I am more moral than the people in paradise. And I'm okay with that, because there is no afterlife.
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Jan 24, 2017 00:09
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yellowyams posted:someone who saves a woman from going through the traumatic experience of childbirth against her will even if she can't afford it or was raped is just like a nazi when u think about it "that woman is less of a person than a fetus, makes u think this is why punching nazis is bad" -not a babyman
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Jan 24, 2017 00:10
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Roland Jones posted:A Thesis On And Defense Of Punching Nazis In Three Tweets: Next time there will be 50 Nazis in the street.
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The Nazis are literally the closest thing we've ever seen to a living, breathing enemy to all humanity. Like, evil on a cosmic scale. I've often said that no modern war has been worth fighting and would happily dodge the draft but even I still admit that the Nazis were worth purging, and would sign up to do so as a moral obligation if it were asked of me. The question should always be "are we too tolerant of Nazism?", not "are we tolerant enough?"
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