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SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

fireball staff is the best oops patrol weapon in the game

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Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

Strength Potion Grudge Raker will liquify any number of stormvermin in moments

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011



Just when I thought this level couldn't get any worse.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

Digirat posted:



Just when I thought this level couldn't get any worse.

I assume the patrol spawned there. Delete :q:

Syrnn
Aug 16, 2004

Should have just stopped at "shoot me".

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
they patrolled in backwards; from the start of the level towards the end. they transversed the finale area and then kind of hung around for a bit before loving off towards the ending.


gently caress the dungeons

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

If you thought that solid gate you can't walk through would stop a patrol, think again

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

Digirat posted:

If you thought that solid gate you can't walk through would stop a patrol, think again

There's a window above it where rats path through.

But let's be honest here, they can path wherever the gently caress they want. They will phase past railings, fences, walls, and teleport to skip the animations entirely when and where they feel like it.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

Arghy
Nov 15, 2012

Ran waterfront on NM with my bots, tons of healing and we are doing great! I jump from the ledge to a cage to get to the next support. 1 bot tries to follow and falls but another bot is right behind so no bi--another bot falls. Its ok i'll just fend off these stormvermin th--3rd bot falls while trying to help the other 2 bots. ARE YOU loving KIDDING ME.

From a flawless run to all 3 bots dying with full health and healing because they can't loving make a jump or pull up another bot without also falling off. Oh yeah my last stand was 2 gunners while i hid behind a support slowly being killed by a wave of rats.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Do not ever take the upper path to the other side.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Yeah it took me about forty runs to realize there is a lower path to get to the other pillars that doesn't involve jumping and rat punting

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
i should really do a vermintide video about working with bots

Gimnbo
Feb 13, 2012

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Arghy posted:

Ran waterfront on NM with my bots, tons of healing and we are doing great! I jump from the ledge to a cage to get to the next support. 1 bot tries to follow and falls but another bot is right behind so no bi--another bot falls. Its ok i'll just fend off these stormvermin th--3rd bot falls while trying to help the other 2 bots. ARE YOU loving KIDDING ME.

From a flawless run to all 3 bots dying with full health and healing because they can't loving make a jump or pull up another bot without also falling off. Oh yeah my last stand was 2 gunners while i hid behind a support slowly being killed by a wave of rats.

That's how the upper path works with actual people, too.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

It took me 40 runs to notice the upper path.
You walk by the lower one, and it doesn't have a big rear end hole

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

:smugwizard: The elf's been hooked...do we want her back?

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010
Just a quick question but which would be a better pick for Sword and Daggers? Bloodlust-Second Wind-Dev Blow or Bloodlust-Off Balance-Swift Slaying (Charged Attack) ?

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.
Swift Slaying charged on that weapon is kind of mediocre. Usually if you're using a charged attack something's gonna die, so in that case Berserking is going to come up way more. I generally prefer either Berserking or Swift Slaying Normal. The only time Swift Slaying Charged is better than Berserking is if it procs while you're trying to melee a Stormvermin, and at only 7% odds that's not going to happen super often, especially since stormvermin are usually killed at range anyway. Off Balance can be nice if you get aggroed by Roger, but that's also a situation that doesn't come up too many times a match.

Second Wind isn't the greatest either, but it can be real nice if you get aggroed by roger, take a bad turn and get surrounded by small rats, or have to block a Stormvermin, and 50% is way better odds than 7%.

Devastating Blow takes effect just dozens and dozens of times a match.

So you've got one set of traits that don't come up incredibly often, vs. a set that comes up a lot more often. I'd go with Bloodlust-Second Wind-Dev Blow,

If you like the fast attack speed perks, I'd try to reroll for either Swift Slaying Normal or Berserking (I'd prefer Berserking, unless you play a lot of cataclysm difficulty).

4th Horseman
Jun 3, 2011
Hmmm, what's this button on the shrine I've never bothered to look at in 50 levels. Oh, I can reroll my weapon bonuses for 5 orange candy instead of paying 40 for a brand new one each time? :doh:

Arghy
Nov 15, 2012

Digirat posted:

:smugwizard: The elf's been hooked...do we want her back?

In khazk dro we started playing with an elf bot but then someone joined and i didn't notice so i was disparaging the elf the entire time until i realized it was a PC hahaha. I'm like sorry i thought you were still a bot! To be fair the elf ran alone to a tome, got surrounded by an ambush and i had to chop my way to her with my war pick. Once i got her free a loving roger spawns and we handle it well except the elf gets knocked down then proceeds to hog all the heals even though she doesn't got heal share.

IBlameRoadSuess
Feb 20, 2012

Fucking technology...

At least I HAVE THIS!
Should I use Saltzpyre's red falchion (bloodlust, stamina shield and power push i think?) or an orange falchion with bloodlust, scavenger and backstabbery? I'm running the two different types of crossbows for ranged if that matters.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
both are good, but it largely depends on what you want to use it for. the red will be better for straight up fighting, the orange you have works better for flanking and killing roger. the latter is what saltzpyre traditionally does as one of the team's top two strikers, but it's sometimes difficult for public teams to grasp and respond to that so the former will be overall safer. you'll definitely want to use the volley bow in either case i think, but the volley crossbow is higher ammo so scavenger isn't terribly high value for it.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

IBlameRoadSuess posted:

Should I use Saltzpyre's red falchion (bloodlust, stamina shield and power push i think?) or an orange falchion with bloodlust, scavenger and backstabbery? I'm running the two different types of crossbows for ranged if that matters.

The falchion can get scavenger and bloodlust at the same time? Do you mean regrowth or is the weapon an exception?

IBlameRoadSuess
Feb 20, 2012

Fucking technology...

At least I HAVE THIS!

Coolguye posted:

both are good, but it largely depends on what you want to use it for. the red will be better for straight up fighting, the orange you have works better for flanking and killing roger. the latter is what saltzpyre traditionally does as one of the team's top two strikers, but it's sometimes difficult for public teams to grasp and respond to that so the former will be overall safer. you'll definitely want to use the volley bow in either case i think, but the volley crossbow is higher ammo so scavenger isn't terribly high value for it.

Cool, I'm running with a team of 2 to 3 other people, so backstabbing Roger will work. And the scavenger is like a 20% rate and it saved our group's rear end on a summoner's peak nightmare run earlier, so I can dig that.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
Free DLC: Lorebook

http://steamcommunity.com/games/235540/announcements/detail/495794557586148811

When I accessed Fatshark's developer console back a few months it contained some traces of this Lorebook thing. We all wrote it off as something they had intended to include but never did, like a lot of things. Basically, as it says here, it put a lot of pages around the maps for you to hunt down. I don't know if they're highlighted or not or to be hidden like Grimoires but it's there at any rate.

Also :laffo: I saw there's a Trueflight on the board with Skull Cracker & Distraction. One broken perk and one insanely useless (for the weapon) perk.

Lunethex fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Jan 23, 2017

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Vermintide: The Fluffening

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Is it going to make those hidden voice lines play

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
I'll try to get in the beta. They said they're doing some new patch system. So, hopefully yes on the dialogue. This game feels more alive when banter is going non-stop.

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.
Can't wait to see the ancient Warhammer supernerds find every tiny detail that slightly condtradicts some sponsored novel published in 1996 and shriek about it until the wine glasses crack.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Mzbundifund posted:

Can't wait to see the ancient Warhammer supernerds find every tiny detail that slightly condtradicts some sponsored novel published in 1996 and shriek about it until the wine glasses crack.

I feel if that was going to happen it would already have, since the game contradicts information on the town's size, but who cares because the game is awesome.


Gimnbo
Feb 13, 2012

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Digirat posted:

:smugwizard: The elf's been hooked...do we want her back?

:bahgawd: THEY'RE STRANGLING THE ELF! THAT'S MY JOB!

Kerillian being so unlikable really makes the cast as a whole shine.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
She's an awkward nerd

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

People also seem cool with the narrative contrivance that some pissant lesser clan like Fester could rise up in the world enough to unite the Great Clans just so we can get a game that puts all the iconic Skaven enemies together. I think Vermintide has either avoided the grogs or they're whining in some obscure hole beneath anyone's notice.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

I'm willing to guess that the worst of the warhammer grogs are not particularly interested in an FPS/action game like vermintide so they're off doing...whatever it is that they do instead of complaining about vermintide


Also :siren: the orange cylindrical box is on the board today :siren:

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Digirat posted:

I'm willing to guess that the worst of the warhammer grogs are not particularly interested in an FPS/action game like vermintide so they're off doing...whatever it is that they do instead of complaining about vermintide


Also :siren: the orange cylindrical box is on the board today :siren:

they are whining about age of sigmar

which to be fair is Bad but it is also a done deal so time to chill basically

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Digirat posted:

I'm willing to guess that the worst of the warhammer grogs are not particularly interested in an FPS/action game like vermintide so they're off doing...whatever it is that they do instead of complaining about vermintide


Also :siren: the orange cylindrical box is on the board today :siren:

I bought this game to play with my WHFRP gaming group. I AM the warhammer nerd/grog.

This game does warhams the best of anything up until Total Warhams. It can do whatever the gently caress it likes with little details like the population of Ubersreik.

White Coke
May 29, 2015

Nehru the Damaja posted:

People also seem cool with the narrative contrivance that some pissant lesser clan like Fester could rise up in the world enough to unite the Great Clans just so we can get a game that puts all the iconic Skaven enemies together. I think Vermintide has either avoided the grogs or they're whining in some obscure hole beneath anyone's notice.

Lesser clans buy/hire the special units from the four great clans which secures the wealth and power of the big four.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
yeah its detailed on their site that they went out and hired a bunch of specialists from the other clans, and that they're also employing the packmasters in a weird way for ~reasons~

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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why are there so many people complaining about that update. it's just extra fluff thrown in for fun. i highly doubt it has somehow stalled development on anything else

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Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
it's ostensibly an open question how Fester got affluent enough to afford so many eshin, moulder, and skyre specialists because by all accounts in both the fluff and crunch they do not come cheap (skaven specialists are really point-heavy in the tabletop), but anyone asking that question seriously should basically loudly told to stab more rat

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