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Jan 24, 2017 00:22
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Here, have the most simple point system ever known: Best average finishing position. Done. Oh right, that means someone wins the championship with a race to go while only winning one race en route. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT! 
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Jan 24, 2017 00:22
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gently caress it, let's watch the world burn.
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Jan 24, 2017 00:26
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It's like they listened to fans about the majority of the season not mattering, and thus tried to reinstate points racing, but in the most hosed-up way imaginable and with more dumb gimmicks.
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Jan 24, 2017 00:29
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Boomer The Cannon posted:gently caress it, let's watch the world burn. Humpy suggested just going to modified heat races and multiple mains on a single day, and that sounds like a much better option than this poo poo honestly. Or just, you know, cut the races to 200-300 miles outside of the Coke 600/Daytona 500, but thats way to obvious and simple.
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Jan 24, 2017 00:30
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Listen, if you don't like this system, just come back in 2019 when they change it again.
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Jan 24, 2017 00:31
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scoring throughout the entire event he's right b/c I'll be jerking off in the segment breaks
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Jan 24, 2017 00:32
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VikingSkull posted:IT'S ALIVE This must be what Germany felt like when they shipped Lenin in a sealed railroad car back to Russia in 1917.
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Jan 24, 2017 00:34
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kidcoelacanth posted:Listen, if you don't like this system, just come back in 2019 when they change it again. You think they can possibly go through two whole years without dicking with it more? We need points for qualifying Let teams spend points to improve their qualifying position Every 50 laps you lead gives you a token you can use for either a free +5 pass under caution, or for a free pit stop without loss of position, and you can save them to use at later races too Double header races where they race backwards for the 2nd round (Take this as either driving in reverse gear, or reverse around the track, or both, whichever amuses you more)
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Jan 24, 2017 00:38
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"we listened to the fans" Technically Brian France is a fan.
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Jan 24, 2017 00:45
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Boomer The Cannon posted:This must be what Germany felt like when they shipped Lenin in a sealed railroad car back to Russia in 1917. Seize the means of points production. From each according to his segment, to each according to his speeds.
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Jan 24, 2017 00:59
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VikingSkull posted:Seize the means of points production. 2017 thread title there but 5/5 post
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Jan 24, 2017 01:11
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Good lord NASCAR is dumb as gently caress for presenting these "enhancements" in the way that they did. Way too condescending, especially in light of the fact that NASCAR even said that "all the stakeholders" (TV, sponsors, promoters, fans) gave input but they presented things as if the only party that was important was "the fans." Yes, we "the fans" definitely want two confusing as gently caress points systems that require several articles to kind of explain?? Here's a way they could have put things to make it sound 100x better: quote:Listen, we get it that our races are kind of long and they drag out in places. We know that fans at home like long green flag sequences so a race can unfold, but fans at the track aren't able to take a break without missing a lot of the action. So what we're going to do is go back to our short track roots. We're going to create three shorter, harder races within a single, traditional NASCAR race. There will still be an overall race winner for the points and the playoffs, but each shorter race will have playoff implications, too. If they announced it like that, you'd get people to listen and frame the changes in a way that might actually make sense. But no, NASCAR wants to go for the made-for-TV(-money) route, and have decided that a once-was fan like me knows exactly what I want. I mean, it's not a bad idea when I put it my way. But the way NASCAR communicated it shows how much they've lost touch.
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Jan 24, 2017 01:18
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So, the sixteenth place car on prime numbered laps receives 35 NASCAR FunBuxTM? Seriously, if you need this slickly produced video, you might be doin' it wrong: https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/823669757329162241
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Jan 24, 2017 02:59
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btw nascar is considering a podium made up of the 3 stage winners, lmao
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Jan 24, 2017 03:04
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Elitist Bitch posted:So, the sixteenth place car on prime numbered laps receives 35 NASCAR FunBuxTM? "Everything you need to know about NASCAR's new format" sounds like an attack ad or something.
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Jan 24, 2017 03:13
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I'm just walking in so, before I look at the details, let me just say that no matter what happens here, it's been a privilege serving with you gentlemen and lady.
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Jan 24, 2017 03:27
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Harveygod posted:"Everything you need to know about NASCAR's new format" sounds like an attack ad or something. I'm Paul R. Nelson and I approve this message.
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Jan 24, 2017 03:30
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This is stupid but I don't really give a poo poo
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Jan 24, 2017 03:33
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Yeah, I just watched the video and I'm fully expecting the next TV deal to not matter because no one is going to care anymore. What the gently caress is this poo poo? I just wish I didn't have such an attachment to the sport so I could just take it all with a grain of salt and go  .Like, these are the god drat bullet points: quote:The enhanced format consists of the following: It's unbelievably confusing. The Duels paying points actually makes some sense because they sure as poo poo don't matter anymore anyway. Cygni posted:btw nascar is considering a podium made up of the 3 stage winners, lmao NASCAR has been trying to talk fans into a podium for at least two years, possibly three. Come at me, Fan Council.
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Jan 24, 2017 03:38
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FuzzySkinner posted:I'll stand up for Indy during Carb Day/Race day, and the Glen during any given weekend. Throw them into the mix. I've got a friend who has been partying in the boot. Setup a rig to play Forza outside on a wheel and have a good time.
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Jan 24, 2017 03:44
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BMB5150 posted:I've got a friend who has been partying in the boot. Setup a rig to play Forza outside on a wheel and have a good time. I have a few twitter buds who do the same. It sounds incredible.
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Jan 24, 2017 03:49
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I mean on paper this whole poo poo sounds confusing and dumb but I'll just do my usual and wait to see how it pans out before I cast a negative judgement on it.
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Jan 24, 2017 03:54
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I don't think this sounds Monster enough for Monster Energy. How about they throw in a big loving paved ramp the cars come down to jockey for spots before going into Turn 1 the first time? Lost in all this is that the points are talked up but, in the end, they still. don't. matter.
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Jan 24, 2017 03:59
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 What a terrific audience! 
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Jan 24, 2017 04:03
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Harveygod posted:
Wait...please don't...please don't tell me that https://twitter.com/JeffGordonWeb/status/823698279796011008 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo..... 
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Jan 24, 2017 04:21
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Jeff's taking down NASCAR from the inside.
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Jan 24, 2017 04:30
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CBJSprague24 posted:I don't think this sounds Monster enough for Monster Energy. How about they throw in a big loving paved ramp the cars come down to jockey for spots before going into Turn 1 the first time? Well...mostly. The normal points system still doesn't mean poo poo until the "playoffs" just as it has since they made the chase based on wins, the new additions still mean basically nothing to those who get into the top 16 in the end since they tend to just fall out in the 1st or 2nd round. As ridiculous and confusing as having a 2nd points system is, it might make the first 26 races a bit more interesting* since winning segments/races is beneficial all the way through, rather than just round 1. Now if a team pushes hard through the season, and say gets 5 wins, and wins say 12 segments, they get to start each round with 37 extra points. It's kinda stupid, but in a hacksawed way, they just made being consistent through a season be more important again, though still almost entirely focused on winning. The points through a race might make the "playoff" races a bit more interesting or boring, depending on how teams handle it. You gently caress up and wreck early, rather than just dropping ~30 some points to the field, now you'll be losing 45+. It's definitely the most over the top complicated rules change since that even/odd yellow flag pit change (someone link that video please), but it will make the races more interesting if you can manage to figure out wtf is going on and Calvinball doesn't bother you. I'm thinking: -More mid race gambling on pit stops for those singular points in first 26 than before -More all out for wins in first 26 than before -Mid season "testing" races will go away/be very uncommon -Less drama/points staring in the last 10 races. Not that there won't be any, but you won't have the transfer spots positions shuffling around like a bingo board throughout a race as much. -*Interesting is that JJ will probably win 10 races this year and be untouchable pointswise until Miami
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Jan 24, 2017 04:36
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CBJSprague24 posted:Wait...please don't...please don't tell me that What would you expect owing everything to this series. Yeah if they framed this as not so condescending and try to be edge and say hey you like your weekly short track racing? Here we'll divide half the race to heat races and 2nd half as the A-main. Points for top 10 in the heat and for everyone in the main. Oh and winners in each race gets special points for playoff seeding in each round if they make it into the playoffs. Sounds dumb but we gotta reward your 5 wins from the regular season so you can't choke away as easily in the playoffs. Now I'm waiting for someone to do this points and racing format for the whole history of NASCAR just to know what stupid things happen, like a Steve Park in the championship race stupid.
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Jan 24, 2017 04:37
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BMB5150 posted:Now I'm waiting for someone to do this points and racing format for the whole history of NASCAR just to know what stupid things happen, like a Steve Park in the championship race stupid. That actually owns, so I'm back on board. This rules
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Jan 24, 2017 04:38
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BMB5150 posted:Now I'm waiting for someone to do this points and racing format for the whole history of NASCAR just to know what stupid things happen, like a Steve Park in the championship race stupid. Yeah, but you can't do that because they weren't racing under the same system so their strategy migh 
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Jan 24, 2017 04:45
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Guys, what the hell is happening, we are through the looking glass. Trump is President and NASCAR is following his lead into insanity. My dad and I were thinking of going to a race this year but this seals it, this sport is broken beyond repair.
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Jan 24, 2017 05:08
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I fell out of watching NASCAR a few years ago because the sport wasn't imploding fast enough and medical science was keeping their gouty limp-dicked fanbase of cranky greybeards alive for too long.. But I'm glad to see they are back on course to torpedoing the whole thing with Brian's bad ideas and back on track to selling the whole brand off to TNT for $20 million in cash and $100 million in assumed debts by 2019. They even managed to ruin the elegant simplicity of the Daytona 500 by turning it into some everyone-goes-home-with-a-prize church basement bingo payout scheme where the winner of the race is no longer the winner of the day. Maybe I'll join you guys for THE PLAYOFFS in fall. Good work Brian.
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Jan 24, 2017 05:26
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SpitztheGreat posted:Guys, what the hell is happening, we are through the looking glass. Trump is President and NASCAR is
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Jan 24, 2017 05:32
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All we need is Trump to make a guest appearance in the broadcast booth and talk about how NASCAR is the best it's ever been.
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Jan 24, 2017 06:43
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NASCAR 2017-Championship Implications, Moments, and the Product: You're not in the most boring meeting in work history, but the stakeholders are working hard for it to feel that way.
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Jan 24, 2017 06:50
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I get frustrated because...I WANT to like NASCAR. I want to go to races. I want to follow the sport. I want to have favorite drivers outside of Dale Jr.. I don't want to be some snob about "HOW MUCH BETTER INDYCAR IS". I've been begging this sport to not do this. It's exhausting. And they keep doing this poo poo. Over and over again.
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Jan 24, 2017 06:57
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I like that they already have an faq up like questions are already frequently asked.
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Jan 24, 2017 11:10
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L_Harrison posted:All we need is Trump to make a guest appearance in the broadcast booth and talk about how NASCAR is the best it's ever been. Certainly this is going to happen.
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Jan 24, 2017 11:47
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BMB5150 posted:Now I'm waiting for someone to do this points and racing format for the whole history of NASCAR just to know what stupid things happen, like a Steve Park in the championship race stupid. I want to but they haven't announced when the segment cutoffs are.
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Jan 24, 2017 13:15
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