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mcmagic posted:It's all about context... Because the Snake and Verderous Gearhulk seem very good in this format, (which we couldn't have known) that is what is making Ballista good. Gearhulk also has a nice synergy.
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mcmagic posted:It's all about context... Because the Snake and Verderous Gearhulk seem very good in this format, (which we couldn't have known) that is what is making Ballista good. sit on my Facebook posted:These two cards are for sure the strongest mythics imo but I'm tellin' you guys, Verdurous Gearhulk is fully insane in the post-emrakul world. sit on my Facebook posted:I think variableskelion is gonna be really good. Lets not forget that we've all been bemoaning the X/X+1 creature board stall situation for a while. 
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triskelion, well known standard playable
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gwrtheyrn posted:triskelion, well known standard playable Trisk was actually played reasonably often when it was in Mirrodin standard, since you could Tooth it and Mephidross Vampire out to instant kill, while also just playing it with Tron and getting three pings out. Also my home girl Saffi finally getting some respect on the streets. Sorry Crypt Champion. e: wait Blue Tron played Triskelavus, not Triskelion, what with Triskelion rotating out. It was still played in Tooth though. Hellsau fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Good call.
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mcmagic posted:Good call. On like the very next page I was like "hey you guys cat combo isn't even that good probably" We're all human bro don't let them haters get you down
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Hellsau posted:Trisk was actually played reasonably often when it was in Mirrodin standard, since you could Tooth it and Mephidross Vampire out to instant kill, while also just playing it with Tron and getting three pings out. well known AER standard playable, are you happy now
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Hellsau posted:Trisk was actually played reasonably often when it was in Mirrodin standard, since you could Tooth it and Mephidross Vampire out to instant kill, while also just playing it with Tron and getting three pings out. Mephi-Trike wasn't an instant kill, it was an instant reusable plague wind 
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Hellsau posted:Also my home girl Saffi finally getting some respect on the streets. Sorry Crypt Champion. Is Saffi still broken on mtgo?
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Elyv posted:Mephi-Trike wasn't an instant kill, it was an instant reusable plague wind With two vampires it was, though (ping itself until it has enough counters to kill your opponent without dying to SBEs).
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Jan 23, 2017 22:59
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Playing draft chaff common Bastion Inventor out of the board against UB Control is pretty funny.
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Angry Grimace posted:Playing draft chaff common Bastion Inventor out of the board against UB Control is pretty funny. it's a good kind of common like gurmag angler is
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Were we supposed to find out last week or this week if they did something fix loops on MTGO? I can't remember when that came up in here. Oh, I guess it would be this week when they patch the new cards in on Wednesday or whatever.
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mcmagic posted:It's all about context... Because the Snake and Verderous Gearhulk seem very good in this format, (which we couldn't have known) that is what is making Ballista good. I never would have pieced together that verderous gearhulk would be good in standard.
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Mezzanon posted:I never would have pieced together that verderous gearhulk would be good in standard. It was just OK last format. Not heavily played. There is a reason it was 5 bucks.
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mcmagic posted:It was just OK last format. Not heavily played. There is a reason it was 5 bucks. Wow he's back up to $17. Jesus Torrential out of stock and 25, nice.
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I kinda wanted one for Animar but I guess that'll have to wait.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Except it's not pushing them out of the format at all. Jund/abzan are the top 2 percentage wise on mtggoldfish and in the upper percentages on mtgtop8. Eldrazi just isn't good enough in a wide meta to have any effect on anything and meanwhile it let's people play with their eldrazi dudes that they like. Pictured on the left: me 
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Mezzanon posted:I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I'm just complaining that my dumb T2 standard deck got banned because it was incredibly fun to play, and now I have to find a new weird deck to troll standard with. Not sure if it really qualifies as T2, but a guy got 22nd out of 603 with B/R Zombies. http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=111048 I guess in a format that has a fair amount of control floating around and is low on graveyard hate it makes sense? Not sure if it has enough answers to Copy Cat, and strangely has no Fatal Pushes.
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Mezzanon posted:I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I'm just complaining that my dumb T2 standard deck got banned because it was incredibly fun to play, and now I have to find a new weird deck to troll standard with. If you like playing lots of Metalwork Colossus in one turn and also sometimes winning with a storm-like combo: https://deckstats.net/decks/997/644397-paradox-colossus A buddy is playing a version with saheeli in the main and some other interaction, but I'm fond of going all-in on the combo.
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Oh man more free money, this is like betting (and I'm the house)
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Oldsrocket_27 posted:If you like playing lots of Metalwork Colossus in one turn and also sometimes winning with a storm-like combo: Can you explain how it works?
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The Sexual Shiite posted:Can you explain how it works? Metalwork Colossus costs 1 less based on the CMC of your noncreature artifacts. You play a bunch of artifact mana acceleration that will actually tap for 4 and 5 mana for Metalwork Colossus. You'll quickly be casting Colossus for free or close to it. You use Sanctum of Ugin and Inventor's Fair to search out more Metalworks and flood the board with 10/10 creatures. Paradoxical Outcome lets you dodge removal (that Metalwork Colossus is already fairly resilient too) and draw lots of free cards. Coax From the Blind Eternities lets you search out Barrage Tyrant to force your damage through a board of chump blockers. The rest of the deck is mostly ways to find your pieces.
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Given that there's literally only one target for coax, why not play the barrage tyrant main instead? Or at that point, since it doesn't have to be an eldrazi, something that forces through damage cheaper like key to the city.
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The Sexual Shiite posted:Can you explain how it works? With paradox engine in play, you can generate lots of mana by tapping your mana rocks and having them untap every time you cast something, lots of cantripping artifacts and mana rocks means you keep drawing lots of cards and making tons of mana, paradoxical outcome lets you re-cast a bunch of stuff and draw more cards to keep going, until you eventually hit Coax From The Blind Eternities to fetch a Barrage Tyrant, which you can use to throw your colossus and any other creatures you need to to kill your opponent. Your backup plan if you fizzle is just having dumped four 10/10s into play, but I've had comfortable combo kills on turn 5 if the cards in hand line up. The Saheeli Rais, if you play them, also allow you to make hasty colossus on your combo turn, which can be enough if your opponent is short on blockers and you can bounce and replay her with outcome enough times. Key to the city helps with that backup plan. E: Jabor posted:Given that there's literally only one target for coax, why not play the barrage tyrant main instead? Or at that point, since it doesn't have to be an eldrazi, something that forces through damage cheaper like key to the city. I probably could. We originally had more of a toolbox SB, but now just maindecking the tyrant probably makes more sense. Oldsrocket_27 fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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I've also seen lists that run Elder Deep-Fiend since it can be searched with Sanctum and MC is a decent emerge target. I think that may have been from the PT.
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Oldsrocket_27 posted:I probably could. We originally had more of a toolbox SB, but now just maindecking the tyrant probably makes more sense. Especially since you can find it with sanctum of ugin...
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sit on my Facebook posted:On like the very next page I was like "hey you guys cat combo isn't even that good probably" That was really awesome and not lovely you two ty. Not that either of you usually are its just a nice change of pace Anywhoodle I def got $20 on mcmagic if anyone wants to put anything on Hetfield. Kinda late but I've had a motherfucker of a day.
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Oldsrocket_27 posted:If you like playing lots of Metalwork Colossus in one turn and also sometimes winning with a storm-like combo: Why the two Skysoverign in the board? Its a really cool and cheap (ish) deck. Other sideboard pieces makes sense.
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Frozen_flame posted:Why the two Skysoverign in the board? Its a really cool and cheap (ish) deck. Other sideboard pieces makes sense. Just because they were in a lot of other/traditional colossus decks and I assumed they had a place. I haven't done any SB game testing yet, just messing around with the main to try and get a consistent build. I don't get to play all that much magic anymore, in part because the local scene is nearly dead, so it's rare that I get to refine a list based on actual play anymore, especially against tier 1 decks.
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skysovereign is probably nice against aggro or midrange decks because it comes down, picks off a dude, then discounts colossus for 5 and can get crewed by colossus on the turn it etbs to go murder more dudes while crunching for 6.
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Since the brewhaus thread is dead(?) I have no place to post my new deck. I give you: Deck: Crackdown Colossus   //Creatures 3 Crackdown Construct 4 Metalwork Colossus 4 Foundry Inspector 3 Cultivator's Caravan 4 Glint-Nest Crane //Artifacts/Other 4 Prophetic Prism 3 Hedron Archive 1 Key to the City 3 Metalspinner's Puzzleknot 4 Slip Through Space 2 Expedite 3 Harnessed Lightning //Land 4 Aether Hub 4 Wandering Fumarole 1 Hanweir Battlements 4 Sanctum of Ugin 3 Spirebluff Canal 4 Island 2 Inventors' Fair //Sideboard 3 Dispel 2 Metallic Rebuke 4 Thought-Knot Seer 2 Elder Deep-Fiend 2 Spatial Contortion 2 Reality Smasher  Display deck statisticsWho want to play Copycat when there is a much jankier combo availabe to you.
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GoutPatrol posted:Since the brewhaus thread is dead(?) I have no place to post my new deck. I give you: What about Barrage Tyrant for the Flings? myDad fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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GoutPatrol posted:Since the brewhaus thread is dead(?) I have no place to post my new deck. I give you: This looks rad. What's the point of Crackdown Construct though? It looks like it only triggers off Colossus and Puzzleknot?
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Sailor Viy posted:This looks rad. What's the point of Crackdown Construct though? It looks like it only triggers off Colossus and Puzzleknot? Wandering Fumarole.
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Sailor Viy posted:This looks rad. What's the point of Crackdown Construct though? It looks like it only triggers off Colossus and Puzzleknot? Wandering Fumarole is a manland with a 0-cost ability e:f,b
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I wonder what the maximum number of combos you can cram into a deck is. I wonder if it will be better than just 4-color Cats. I seem to recall deck with two different combos in them being pretty good, like Thopter/Depths.
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Well, how many combos are there? The real gold standard would to be reconciling Paradox Engine eggs and Sram's cheerios; both of them feed into Paradoxical Outcome to chew through your entire deck and fix enough mana to do pretty much anything else, but the baseline is that you either put your storm-count into an Aetherflux Reservoir or all your eggs into a Ravenous Intruder. Then you try and divert as many cards as you can into turning Felidar Guardian and Saheeli's consensual missionary combo into a debauched combination orgy; Put a pair of the cats next to Panharmonicon for infinite untaps or next to Decoction Module/Aetherstorm Roc for an arbitrary stockpile of energy. Put three of the latter next to a Whirler Virtuoso for an arbitrary number of thopters. Throw one of the arbitrarily numerous creature hoards at Fumigate for lots of life (and, again, sling it right back up your opponent's rear end with Reservoir). Pop a Barrage Tyrant next to the untaps and swarm for an arbitrary number of pings. If Crackdown Construct still hasn't gotten up to 20/20 through something else at that point, you have your Wandering Fumarole. Slide in Mechanized Production and Thraben Inspector, too, because you don't even loving care at this point. That's all just in Jeskai.
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