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Tie-breaker for serial you'd most like to find an episode from This poll is closed. |
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| The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve |
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Jan 22, 2017 16:49
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The_Doctor posted:<cough> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FswjRpmFXU 
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Jan 22, 2017 18:07
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Box of Bunnies posted:Elsewhere, I've never really bothered much with the Short Trips range but September and October's releases pretty much have me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU
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Jan 23, 2017 21:17
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Zaroff posted:All signs point to no - it ultimately had dismal online ratings and the TV ratings are very disappointing (albeit for a 10:30pm showing). A show set in a school is airing at 10:30pm? They're out of their minds.
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Jan 23, 2017 23:22
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To be fair, we don't really have a history of stuff like Class was aping, so there's no traditional place for it go in the schedule. The BBC used to air Buffy at like 5 in the afternoon (and Channel 4 tried to run Angel in a similar slot and ran afoul of the body-snatching demon date-rapist in like the second episode making it totally impossible to air without cutting the eps to shreds.)
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Jan 24, 2017 00:02
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...to shreds you say?
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Jan 24, 2017 00:16
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The_Doctor posted:...to shreds you say?  Stop, I'm already having trouble keeping track of what thread I'm in!
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Jan 24, 2017 05:56
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After The War posted:
It's 2017 and we've got a Doctor with attack eyebrows. Does that help?
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Jan 24, 2017 10:46
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CobiWann posted:we've got a Doctor with attack eyebrows. Does that help? Well, not really...  But since I know you're not one of the posters crossing over with the Star Trek thread, (which now includes The_Doctor making the same posts  ), we'll call it "grounded" at least.
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Jan 24, 2017 17:55
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Gaz-L posted:To be fair, we don't really have a history of stuff like Class was aping, so there's no traditional place for it go in the schedule. The BBC used to air Buffy at like 5 in the afternoon (and Channel 4 tried to run Angel in a similar slot and ran afoul of the body-snatching demon date-rapist in like the second episode making it totally impossible to air without cutting the eps to shreds.) It was commissioned for BBC3 before they axed the channel, that's why it's been consigned to graveyard shift/BBC iplayer limbo. At one time BBC2 used to be the place for all those kinds of shows. Then it was reformatted as being "lifestyle/aspirational", so no more of that nerdy Star Trek poo poo allowed. Angel was kind of a disaster on every terrestrial channel that broadcast it. I think by the time it had got an appropriate timeslot everyone who cared had already seen it either downloaded or on video/DVD, so it always bombed.
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Jan 24, 2017 22:23
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I was in HMV earlier today and they had a bunch of these "From the world of BBC TV's Doctor Who" DVDs like "The Mindgame Saga" (starring Sophie Aldred) and "Downtime" (starring Nicholas Courtney and Elisabeth Sladen). Are these old wilderness years fan-productions? How are they getting official-ish-looking home releases?
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Jan 24, 2017 22:31
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Wheat Loaf posted:I was in HMV earlier today and they had a bunch of these "From the world of BBC TV's Doctor Who" DVDs like "The Mindgame Saga" (starring Sophie Aldred) and "Downtime" (starring Nicholas Courtney and Elisabeth Sladen). Are these old wilderness years fan-productions? How are they getting official-ish-looking home releases? They weren't fan productions in the sense of (most of) the New Adventures, the former was written by Terrence Dicks and the latter by Marc Platt
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Jan 24, 2017 22:46
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Downtime is semi-official, from what i remember, like Shakedown. Both got tucked into the NAs/MA books. Didn't Downtime originate Kate Lethbridge-Stewart?
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Jan 24, 2017 22:53
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Wheat Loaf posted:I was in HMV earlier today and they had a bunch of these "From the world of BBC TV's Doctor Who" DVDs like "The Mindgame Saga" (starring Sophie Aldred) and "Downtime" (starring Nicholas Courtney and Elisabeth Sladen). Are these old wilderness years fan-productions? How are they getting official-ish-looking home releases? If we're talking about the BBV and Reeltime ones they had (un)official releases, but it was usually all mail order. I've never known any actual shops to carry them before now. I've no idea of the rights issues of using characters like Sarah Jane and the Brigadier in unofficial things like this. It was never a problem when these came out because the BBC then didn't care about some two-bit fan production only a few hundred people would ever watch. They're a bit more protective of their "brand" now Dr Who is a big deal, so who knows. I hope they've got Shakedown, that is hilarious trash.
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Jan 24, 2017 23:04
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Didn't see Shakedown and a cursory search on Amazon seems to indicate that it's not on DVD. This is what Downtime looked like: 
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Jan 24, 2017 23:28
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I believe for some of these, they cleared things with the writers/estates of the writers who created those characters and monsters. The BBC doesn't own all of those. For the new show they've made sure to have all new monsters and characters and so on be created by staff (the freelance writers are told what to write) so they're work for hire and the BBC owns them.
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Jan 25, 2017 02:24
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Yeah, the copyright on the characters/monsters in a classic series script would usually belong to the scriptwriter (excepting characters already owned by the BBC, e.g. the Doctor himself, pre-existing companions etc.) If the Dr Who production office wanted a new companion in the show, they would either create the character themselves and ask the scriptwriter to include them (so the BBC has copyright of the new character), or continue to use one of the characters created by a scriptwriter in a pre-existing script (so the scriptwriter would retain copyright of the character rather than the BBC). In fact, this is why JNT insisted on the production office explicitly creating all companions post-Nyssa, due to Johnny Byrne needing to be paid £50 an episode (or whatever) so they could continue to use that character which had originated in the Keeper of Traken script. In the wilderness years, fans found that (e.g.) the estate of Robert Holmes would be much more willing to let them use things like the Sontarans in their productions than the BBC ever would, hence the glut of tenuously linked "from the world of Dr Who" videos that appeared around that time. It's not quite as simple as even that, though, because the copyright of the appearance of the Sontarans still belonged to the BBC (as it was their in-house makeup/costume departments which created that). So after all that, the Sontarans don't even look right, but - hey! - the actual show couldn't be bothered getting them to look right in The Two Doctors, so we shouldn't be too harsh I guess.
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Jan 25, 2017 10:32
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The_Doctor posted:Downtime is semi-official, from what i remember, like Shakedown. Both got tucked into the NAs/MA books. Didn't Downtime originate Kate Lethbridge-Stewart? Yeah, it was a pretty big surprise when she showed up because not even the most hardcore of fans actually expected someone from a wilderness years spinoff video that looks like it was shot in someone's living room to appear in the show proper but in a way it made sense. It's Nicholas Courtney's last appearance onscreen as The Brigadier, which, I mean, nobody could have expected at the time, but it meant that Kates appearance in the actual episode retroactively turned this odd little one-off into a passing of the torch moment from one generation of Lethbridge-Stewart to the next. It was a pretty clever move even if Downtime itself is kind of poo poo.
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Jan 25, 2017 20:06
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Chairman Mao posted:It's Nicholas Courtney's last appearance onscreen as The Brigadier, which, I mean, nobody could have expected at the time Are we ignoring the Sarah Jane Adventures?
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Jan 25, 2017 20:37
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ahhh gently caress 
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Jan 26, 2017 02:18
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I'm not a big Who fan and haven't watched the last few seasons, but I noticed earlier that Audible's Daily Deal has a Doctor Who book on offer, specifically Engines of War, a War Doctor book. Which I figured someone in this thread might appreciate at least knowing was on sale. I'm considering buying it myself, but has anyone here read/listened to it and have an opinion on it out of interest? Also, related question, but are the Big Finish selection just audiobooks with one person reading the whole thing or akin to a radio drama with a small cast all reading different roles?
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Jan 26, 2017 13:53
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tsob posted:I'm not a big Who fan and haven't watched the last few seasons, but I noticed earlier that Audible's Daily Deal has a Doctor Who book on offer, specifically Engines of War, a War Doctor book. Which I figured someone in this thread might appreciate at least knowing was on sale. I'm considering buying it myself, but has anyone here read/listened to it and have an opinion on it out of interest? Re: Engines of War, its a pretty decent War Doctor story. I read the book shortly after it came out (probably a good thing too; I've been spoiled by Big Finish's releases for the War Doctor) Re: Big Finish, they have a whole bunch of different lines of releases with a bunch of different presentation styles. The main range, and stuff like the 4th Doctor releases, 8th doctor boxes, etc are all full cast drama, with music and sfx. The Companion Chronicles are mostly all two-handers with one Companion actor and a second person voicing an ally or enemy. The Early Adventures are mostly full-cast, with narration bits instead of everything being in-character.
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Jan 26, 2017 14:04
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Engines of War is a good book, but the audiobook is read by Nick Briggs, and very much depends on how much you can stand his John Hurt impression. Personally I don't think it's all that, and detracts/distracts from the story at hand.
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Jan 26, 2017 17:12
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The_Doctor posted:Engines of War is a good book, but the audiobook is read by Nick Briggs, and very much depends on how much you can stand his John Hurt impression. Personally I don't think it's all that, and detracts/distracts from the story at hand. His impression of Seven is just Nick Briggs With a Scottish Accent and is very bad, as you may imagine (or have probably already heard).
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Jan 26, 2017 18:36
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I'm pretty sure CobiWann wrote up a review of Engines of War but I don't see it in his index of reviews so maybe it was somebody else?apophenium posted:His impression of Seven is just Nick Briggs With a Scottish Accent and is very bad, as you may imagine (or have probably already heard). I listened to that fan-written Short Trips that was released recently and yeah Briggs' Seventh Doctor is pretty bad, unfortunately.
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Jan 26, 2017 23:06
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Better or worse than Lisa Bowerman's?
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Jan 27, 2017 00:03
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Haven't heard hers, but it'd have to be pretty bad to top Briggs'
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Jan 27, 2017 03:05
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Briggs' 9 isn't great either. Basically if he's not being modulated, Briggs isn't a great voice guy.
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Jan 27, 2017 04:36
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I thought that free Short Trip was pretty decent, discounting Briggs's Scottish accent, for what it's worth.
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Jan 27, 2017 04:37
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I liked the story too, though I did think they didn't quite pull off the "twist" as well as they could have. I can see why it won though, it was a really neat idea.
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Jan 27, 2017 04:41
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It was pretty good, yeah. Certainly better than the one I sent!jivjov posted:Basically if he's not being modulated, Briggs isn't a great voice guy. His five-year-old girl voice in that Short Trip did kind of sound like a Dalek with a speech impediment. Forktoss fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Jan 27, 2017 |
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Jan 27, 2017 07:44
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Daily Mirror report has just come up that John Hurt has just died. Can't confirm anywhere else at the moment. Isn't on the Beeb yet.
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Jan 28, 2017 02:07
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No, just not. God drat it.
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Jan 28, 2017 02:15
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Rhyno posted:No, just not. God drat it. If it's true, he made it a lot longer than most people do with pancreatic cancer (especially since I don't believe he ever had surgery).
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Jan 28, 2017 02:22
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Well that's dammed depressing.
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Jan 28, 2017 02:23
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It is truejivjov posted:Well that's dammed depressing. Would you say it hurt?
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Jan 28, 2017 02:28
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Farewell War Doctor 🙁
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Jan 28, 2017 02:38
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At least it wasn't something sudden and he likely had time to get his affairs in order and say his goodbyes. Still 
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Jan 28, 2017 03:03
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Well gently caress, that's depressing.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:At least it wasn't something sudden and he likely had time to get his affairs in order and say his goodbyes. Still So the moment had been prepared for?
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