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Yossarian-22 posted:Marx supported capitalist expansion to facilitate the conditions for international revolution lol Fascism and social democracy are also both capitalism, we can still choose to side with one over the other
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Enjoy posted:Fascism and social democracy are also both capitalism, we can still choose to side with one over the other Well one essentially has exterminating all leftists as a goal so
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Yossarian-22 posted:Well one essentially has exterminating all leftists as a goal so So maybe writing off all capitalism as equally bad isn't appropriate
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Enjoy posted:So maybe writing off all capitalism as equally bad isn't appropriate Fascism has more protectionism than neoliberalism typically :O Plus I don't think that should be a justification for popular front politics
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Yossarian-22 posted:Fascism has more protectionism than neoliberalism typically Not relevant to my argument Yossarian-22 posted:Plus I don't think that should be a justification for popular front politics This was the attitude that allowed the Nazis to take power
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Enjoy posted:Not relevant to my argument Also got leftists massacred by the Spanish Republic that they fought for so valiantly
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Jan 24, 2017 11:58
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Enjoy posted:This was the attitude that allowed the Nazis to take power https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OVr3EfB_z8
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Jan 24, 2017 13:02
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For example, the KPD's collaboration with the Nazis in seeking to destabilise the government (eg the 1932 transit workers strike)
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Enjoy posted:For example, the KPD's collaboration with the Nazis in seeking to destabilise the government (eg the 1932 transit workers strike) forget it dude, telling homework explainer that a communist party did a bad thing once is like telling someone that a square peg fits into a round hole, you're just not going to get through
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agreed, fallen hamprince. it is like telling someone a square peg fits into a round hole.
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that would indeed be damning if you ignore everything else that happened in the weimar and nazi era, perhaps due to a big rock falling on your head also that participation in the strike both from kpd and nsdap members was low, with nazi party members on strike numbering in the low hundreds
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Eighty years ago: When the BVG went on strikejoseph "rotting in hell" goebbels posted:Many bourgeois sectors will be scared away by our participation in the strike. But that is not decisive. These sectors can be won back later easily; but if we lose the worker, he will be lost for good. hmmm, looks like the nazis supported the strike out of craven political maneuvering — and against their petit bourgeois base — while the communists did so because they were the party of the working class. but they totally organized together, held hands, hugged and kissed despite, you know, having pitched battles in the streets of berlin up to that point
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Jan 25, 2017 00:13
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fallen hamprince needs to stop nazi apologizing in the marx thread
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Jan 25, 2017 00:14
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at the anti-wto actions of the early 2000s, there were communists. there were also some nazis. yet if you claimed that was evidence of collaboration you'd (rightly) be called an idiot. one cold war later and you can make up whatever bullshit you want i guess
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Fallen Hamprince posted:forget it dude, telling homework explainer that a communist party did a bad thing once is like telling someone that a square peg fits into a round hole, you're just not going to get through a square peg doesn't fit in a round hole. excellent self-own
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Of course a liberal would erase the history of the centrist liberal party being the ones to help pass the Enabling Act in the first place. Better to blame the communists they killed before fully taking power.
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the fascist ideology hinges on being able to speak and create truth and fallen hamprince betrays his sympathies by claiming that square peg fits in a round hole
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jarofpiss posted:the fascist ideology hinges on being able to speak and create truth and fallen hamprince betrays his sympathies by claiming that square peg fits in a round hole see, you use a long knife to whittle down the square peg until it fits into the round hole
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R. Guyovich posted:a square peg doesn't fit in a round hole. excellent self-own you : "communists did a bad thing once" :: normal person : impossible statement key to understanding this analogy is that you are not normal, hth
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Fallen Hamprince posted:you : "communists did a bad thing once" :: normal person : impossible statement If you tell people a square peg fits into a round hole they're gonna think you're stupid 
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"a match is to soccer what a meet is to track and field" extremely woke marxism boy: soccer isn't track and field lol owned nerd
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Fallen Hamprince posted:you : "communists did a bad thing once" :: normal person : impossible statement you overcomplicated an analogy as your latest adventure in badposting and everyone is laughing at you
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Jan 25, 2017 02:46
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whats the worst thing about communism home work explain er and don't say like, something ironical like "lamo the worst thing is im not livin in communism"
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Jan 25, 2017 02:47
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Baloogan posted:whats the worst thing about communism home work explain er too much winning
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Jan 25, 2017 02:48
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my only question is what are your thoughts on Bob Avakian, homework explainer the RCP bookstore in Pioneer Square continues to haunt me to this day
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Jan 25, 2017 02:51
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Baloogan posted:whats the worst thing about communism home work explain er im not HE but it's definitely the fact that it only works if you suppress political speech it's worth it but it sucks anyway
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Fiction posted:im not HE but it's definitely the fact that it only works if you suppress political speech 'state's gonna whither away folks, just give it the power to censor all press first' is a trump level master con i must admit
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Weeping Wound posted:my only question is what are your thoughts on Bob Avakian, homework explainer ultraleft cult leader Baloogan posted:whats the worst thing about communism home work explain er despite what we've learned from the 20th century, building socialism that can progress sustainably is still experimental. the successes of the next era are doomed to constituent failures and that will be hard to deal with, but they'll be child's play compared to the struggles previous parties went through
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Jan 25, 2017 02:57
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R. Guyovich posted:ultraleft cult leader 
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Jan 25, 2017 02:58
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what this Bob Avian guy doesn't realize is that you've got to fight your way to power before you build an insane personality cult and do hosed up sex stuff with your followers. you'd think maoists would realize this
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Fallen Hamprince posted:what this Bob Avian guy doesn't realize is that you've got to fight your way to power before you build an insane personality cult and do hosed up sex stuff with your followers. you'd think maoists would realize this he's not even a Maoist he basically cherry-picks whatever is most pertinent to him and goes with it
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Weeping Wound posted:he's not even a Maoist If I were as charismatic as you I would be too busy getting laid to be concerned over trifling matters such as what kind of world my illegitimate offspring should inherit. I like being able to work the mud and earth, with an implement on a stick if necessary. Sadly, my interest in agri/horticulture was originally spawned by an interest in cultivating the Devil's Weed. Oh, the crooked roads old men travel. Notwithstanding, the sweat of your brow is quite attractive (no homo). Hope you're getting paid for it.
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hello bob avakian
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hey guys the presidents threatening to deploy troops to a major urban area, looks like the accelerationism thing is working out. its probably a good time to decide what colour the cat ears on the people's commisar uniforms will be red would be the traditional choice but i'm thinking hot pink is much more 21st century socialism
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Jan 25, 2017 03:59
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how about no
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the trumpentroops will be greeted as liberators in the city of chicago
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Metal Pink Babble posted:If I were as charismatic as you I would be too busy getting laid to be concerned over trifling matters such as what kind of world my illegitimate offspring should inherit. well I certainly did something weird by mentioning Chairman Bob thanks for the compliment though
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You have a thoughtful way of expressing your point. I appreciate it even if I were to disagree.
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