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Anybody got the skinny on Franco's Spain?? I feel like,, really left out since I don't know poo poo about these guys. They were fascists up until 1978? And no one cared??
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starship troopers (THE BOOK) is rad and is also the ideal way to run a society. that much we all agree on.
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Ork of Fiction posted:Anybody got the skinny on Franco's Spain?? I feel like,, really left out since I don't know poo poo about these guys. They were fascists up until 1978? And no one cared?? nah they weren't fascists just elderly, brutal authoritarians. same with the portuguese.
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Blue Raider posted:we should have taken the russians when we had the chance imo Imagine if we'd rebuilt Russia like we did Japan. There would be no distinction between eastern and western europe. If Japan could go from the maniac murderous, crazy state religion suicide war cult of basically its whole history up 1945 to the prosperous, free, democratic, neighborly and valuable member of the world community that it is today, why couldn't we have done the same good for the Russian people? Russia was way less crazy than Japan to begin with. Plus, no trump.
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Ork of Fiction posted:Anybody got the skinny on Franco's Spain?? I feel like,, really left out since I don't know poo poo about these guys. They were fascists up until 1978? And no one cared?? facism is what it is. Franco's Spain minded its own business. The relevant war was the field test for the German military weaponry pre-ww2
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we ain't trying to be police when you ape the mods it ain't anarchy
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Fastball LIVE in concert posted:we ain't trying to be police same
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CNF do you actually have coherent opinions on things or is it just a cycle of truckloads of chinese-room esque hyperbole turning over in your head every minute. Like how do you arrive at 'ideologically driven liberals are bad' while being a communist, lol
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drilldo squirt posted:If anyone wants to know my eve online history, I'm sorry. I'd be sorry too if I was like the tenth most ignored person on these forums and also trying to downplay my relationship with a pedo so infamous he has his own saclopedia entry
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drilldo squirt posted:Also I will find a poo slave to punch you and make you cry. Don't bring the Indians into this.
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buckets of buckets posted:liberals are the worst, this is something any ideologically driven person can agree with. Liberals advocate a return to medieval feudalism in effect source your quotes
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Jan 24, 2017 06:27
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liberals are anti progressive. they advocate the status quo when true progress can only be achieved by revolution
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Psycho Society posted:CNF do you actually have coherent opinions on things or is it just a cycle of truckloads of chinese-room esque hyperbole turning over in your head every minute. liberal ideology is essetially meaningless and only serves as a delusion that capitalism can be fair and compassionate
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my commie radar is going crazy right now. Time to kick some komrades wouldn't you say??
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Rakosi posted:my commie radar is going crazy right now. Arent you the fascist immigrant who whored out his wife for a visa e- actually think that was the saurus, sorry i get my uk dnd facsists confused Benjamin Arthur fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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hakimashou posted:Imagine if we'd rebuilt Russia like we did Japan. There would be no distinction between eastern and western europe. the reason Japan (and Germany) are modern cornerstones of liberal democracy is ironically enough, because the United States caved into the pressure of the demands of the working class. they built into these countries protections for workers, making them Democratic Socialist states by American standards See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codetermination_in_Germany quote:Codetermination in Germany is a concept that involves the right of workers to participate in management of the companies they work for.[1] Known as Mitbestimmung, the modern law on codetermination is found principally in the Mitbestimmungsgesetz of 1976. The law allows workers to elect representatives (usually trade union representatives) for almost half of the supervisory board of directors. The legislation is separate from the main German company law Act for public companies, the Aktiengesetz. It applies to public and private companies, so long as there are over 2000 employees. For companies with 500-2000 employees, one third of the supervisory board must be elected. quote:Codetermination (also "copartnership" or "worker participation") is the practice of workers of an enterprise having the right to vote for representatives on the board of directors in a company. It also refers to staff have binding rights in work councils on issues in their workplace. The practice of board level representation is widespread in developed democracies.[1] The first laws requiring worker voting rights include the Oxford University Act 1854 and the Port of London Act 1908 in the United Kingdom, a voluntary Act on Manufacturing Companies of 1919 in Massachusetts in the United States, and the Supervisory Board Act 1922 (Aufsichtsratgesetz 1922) in Germany, which codified collective agreement from 1918.[2] Most countries with codetermination laws have single-tier board of directors in their corporate law (such as Sweden, France or the Netherlands), while a number in central Europe (particularly Germany and Austria) have two-tier boards. Most laws apply to companies over a certain size, from Denmark at 20 employees, to Germany over 500 (for one-third representation) and 2000 (for just under one half), to France over 5000 employees. https://www.ukessays.com/essays/management/differences-between-the-german-and-japanese-economic-institutions-management-essay.php quote:Germany and Japan are widely considered as the same family of economies in comparative capitalism literature. In the theory of varieties of capitalism, Hall and Soskice (2001) categorised the national capitalist economies into two main streams: liberal market economies (LMEs) and coordinated market economies (CMEs). In contrast to market-driven economies in the US and the UK, German and Japanese economies are more similar in their non-market coordination in industrial relations, vocational training and education, corporate governance, inter-firm relations, and relations with employees basically, in order to prevent the terrifying inevitable global workers revolution, the United States and allied powers helped establish mixed economies, social democracies, across the defeated lands after WWII the irony is that here at home, after the war, the united states proceeded to break apart the workers unions that once made it great, & went full free market fundamentalist in the height of the Cold War. The Cold War was a big part of why the USSR failed, but the problem is that market fundamentalism failed as well. the Final World Order of global liberal capitalism was erected at the end of the Cold War, the End of History. We enjoyed this time in the End of History, as Last Men in the Nietzschean sense until the turn of the century. The End of History Ended First in 2001 at the political level, Then in 2008 in the Great Recession. We are now in the open wound of the Real, history has come back rearing it's ugly head, & the old orders are battling it out again. can we learn our lesson this time and just do it right?
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Psycho Society posted:CNF do you actually have coherent opinions on things or is it just a cycle of truckloads of chinese-room esque hyperbole turning over in your head every minute. well ideologically driven liberals will do anything to protect the status quo of private property & the ceaseless circulation of capital, whereas i would rather put direct control & ownership of the products of labor into the hands of the workers who produce them
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Commie NedFlanders posted:well ideologically driven liberals will do anything to protect the status quo of private property & the ceaseless circulation of capital, whereas i would rather put direct control & ownership of the products of labor into the hands of the workers who produce them You know the term 'liberal' describes anyone who pursues a more progressive government, right? As in the antithesis of conservative? The word you're looking for is 'capitalist'.
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Psycho Society posted:You know the term 'liberal' describes anyone who pursues a more progressive government, right? As in the antithesis of conservative? The word you're looking for is 'capitalist'. why are you telling me "liberal" means "progressive"? i would just say "progressive". liberal means what it means, liberals support private ownership of the means of production & all of the objective violence involved in sustaining the status quo of the capitalist machine churning onward
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if only communists had some really dumb icon like the alt-right has pepe, to make them so punchable. Oh wait isn't it che?
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Commie NedFlanders posted:why are you telling me "liberal" means "progressive"? i would just say "progressive". liberal means what it means, liberals support private ownership of the means of production & all of the objective violence involved in sustaining the status quo of the capitalist machine churning onward The vast majority of american liberals don't support "doing anything to protect the status quo of private property", and correcting the abuses of big industries and their conflicts of interest in government remain one of the primary goals of liberals, which you'd know if you actually paid attention to the party you're dismissing out of hand.
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Commie NedFlanders posted:why are you telling me "liberal" means "progressive"? i would just say "progressive". liberal means what it means, liberals support private ownership of the means of production & all of the objective violence involved in sustaining the status quo of the capitalist machine churning onward Shut up about this and tell nazis to gently caress off and die please.
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I dunno guys it almost seems like political groups are actually bad. not as bad as nazis but still bad. too much us/them groupthink and not enough criticalthink
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Psycho Society posted:The vast majority of american liberals don't support "doing anything to protect the status quo of private property", and correcting the abuses of big industries and their conflicts of interest in government remain one of the primary goals of liberals, which you'd know if you actually paid attention to the party you're dismissing out of hand. Hi I believe CNF is referring to the classical definition of liberalism which seeks to limit government interference in the private sector and maximize personal freedoms, including the freedom to private property and maximization thereof (to the detriment of the lower and working class) I believe you're referring to modern liberalism which is apparently identity politics and smokescreen bullshit and pseudo-socialist-lite
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I once had several nazi anime avatars. What can I say, I have very specific and refined tastes. Hitler lives on as a buxom anime waifu in 2D space, meatspace is dead.
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Lawrence Gilchrist posted:Why just Nazis? You cool with white nationalists, white supremacists, Christian Identitarians, racialists, etc? This is like "Actually, it's ephebophlia  ", but for Nazis
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buckets of buckets posted:starship troopers (THE BOOK) is rad and is also the ideal way to run a society. that much we all agree on. Donate your body to the capricious whims of a tyrannical gubberment so you can vote to shape this government I think this works.
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buckets of buckets posted:liberals are the worst, this is something any ideologically driven person can agree with. Liberals advocate a return to medieval feudalism in effect actually anyone who is ideologically driven is probably a boring blowhard who isn't any fun to be around.
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What else would you be politically driven by? Personal gain? Love of anime pillows?
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Killer Low Life posted:Surf Nazis Must Die All nazis must die
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ASSASSINS! posted:actually anyone who is ideologically driven is probably a boring blowhard who isn't any fun to be around. It's really true.
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I like to play as the Nazis in video games.Dinosaurmageddon posted:Is this still the Nazi Goon fuckoff? This is the true master race.
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Soup du Journey posted:what about if they know rockets, or magic spells? I'm sorry son, if they are a nazi they should gently caress off.
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serious question for gbs: would you tolerate a nazi if he was your weed dealer and nobody else in town could get weed so you like HAD to deal with him?
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Frog Act posted:serious question for gbs: would you tolerate a nazi if he was your weed dealer and nobody else in town could get weed so you like HAD to deal with him?  there are multiple towns in my state.
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Bud K ninja sword posted:
yeah but like you don't know anyone there so its like you can really only get weed from this one dude. he doesn't talk about it much but like you know and he's got some weird books on his shelf and an inexplicable stahlhelm
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Frog Act posted:yeah but like you don't know anyone there so its like you can really only get weed from this one dude. he doesn't talk about it much but like you know and he's got some weird books on his shelf and an inexplicable stahlhelm this is also presuming the internet doesnt exist and my only communication methods are smoke signals and there is an inexplicable moat surrounding my house that is impassible I assume... Yeah I think I would still refuse the master races weed.
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