TRUMP (28): but it's cardboard ha ha ha

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redneck nazgul: Apr 25, 2013

Yinlock posted:

oh great, now what am i supposed to do with these mantis claws

thanks assholes

I'M FROM MIDDLE GEORGIA, AND I SAY KILL EM ALL ED BALLS

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:31

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 16:59

mormonpartyboat: Jan 14, 2015; by Reene

is there some kind of filter that requires every ctf overwatch player to be the absolute worst

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:31

paranoid randroid: Mar 4, 2007

also if i can just editorialize, have zero arrests happen even as just a byproduct of the kind of social dynamics that arise out of having multiple hundreds of thousands of people in one place at one time is nothing short of miraculous

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:31

CheesyDog: Jul 4, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

FabioClone posted:

If the news is all fake, how can we know for sure that Trump is really president? How can we know for sure that he even exists?

Donald Trump is real, and wrong, and my president

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:32

100 degrees Calcium: Jan 23, 2011

mormonpartyboat posted:

it was kind of the other way around

selma had protests which were cracked down on with insane force, and people saw that and were shocked and became sympathetic which led to kennedy switching his mind and going full bore on civil rights - and his death gave johnson a huge dick to waggle to get it done. but then watts happened and actual violence caused all kinds of social pressures that resulted in the resurgence of conservatism which helped get nixon into office. obv way more complicated, but in terms of immediate results mass violence was p bad

the important thing is to not think of a threat of mass violence as an action that demands a reaction - it's not. mass violence generally makes things worse in the short term. but what it does is shift the window of dialogue and give the peaceful resistors space to differentiate themselves and argue their position. law is a social contract, violent actors break the contract and in so doing cede a seat at the table, while the peaceful actors renegotiate the contract after the violence has passed. plus it kind of ignores that when we use 'violence' we talk about physical violence and sacrifice the argument that lawful actions - or systemic pressures - can also be violence. black people demanding, say, their voting rights is a response to violence from the outset and violence in response to violence is wholly distinct from unprovoked violence

this banh mi is v good whooooooo

I think the Lord our God for this good post.

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:32

MaxxBot: Oct 6, 2003; you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

Jeb! Would Have Won!

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:33

jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

The Glumslinger posted:

Seriously what do you want? Would the protest have been meaningful if they had burnt some trashcans? Burned cars? Killed cops? Took control of the senate and forced them to sign legislation? What do you view as impactful vs non-impactful forms of protest?

protest needs to challenge the status quo. you can look at the police response to activism in the last few years and compare it to what happened saturday and ask yourself why the huge difference in response. i have 0 problem with peaceful protest, the march i helped organize on the 20th had no arrests as well but the police response was clearly not one that embraced us and our message (and had we not made huge disciplined efforts to hold people together and not allow people to straggle there almost guaranteed would have been arrests).

i'm not telling white women to go kill cops (i am) but what i am saying is that for activism to be effective and meaningful it needs to be unsafe and challenging to the people in power. for some reason the one on saturday wasn't. the great thing about the sat march was the opportunity for people that are not politically active to join up with an org and get to work. the fact people were mass organizing is A GOOD THING, but i think it's important that people think about why it was so readily accepted by the status quo.

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:33

Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

Colonel J posted:

Legit wanna know how violent protests helped mlk

mlk: hey you can have this nice carrot! no? alright i'll come back later

mx: *silently beats the poo poo out of you with a club for 2 hours*

mlk: alright i'm back, now who wants a carrot. oh, everyone?

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:33

Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

http://www.infowars.com/wheres-alex-see-if-you-can-spot-infowars-founder-in-inauguration-photo/

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:35

MysteriousStranger: Mar 3, 2016; My "vacation" is a euphemism for war tourism in Ukraine for some "bloody work" to escape my boring techie job and family.

Ask me about my warcrimes.

Yinlock posted:

i only work for fake causes, personally

alternative causes!

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:35

100 degrees Calcium: Jan 23, 2011

Someone please buy John Lewis an account.

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:35

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

Yinlock posted:

mlk: hey you can have this nice carrot! no? alright i'll come back later

mx: *silently beats the poo poo out of you with a club for 2 hours*

mlk: alright i'm back, now who wants a carrot. oh, everyone?

basically 100% this

which is why we need the help of juggalos breaking the windows of goldman-sachs offices

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:35

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Quorum posted:

or that yeah, it being a Dank Meme raises the probability of that otherwise unlikely option

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI6d65zPox4 :salt:

Think whatever you want from this weird argument, I just find it amusing.

paranoid randroid posted:

also if i can just editorialize, have zero arrests happen even as just a byproduct of the kind of social dynamics that arise out of having multiple hundreds of thousands of people in one place at one time is nothing short of miraculous

sorry blood wasn't running down the street and people got hurt to further your fantasy of seeing an agenda fulfilled :shrug:

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:35

jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

paranoid randroid posted:

so youre freaking the gently caress out over a footnote. nobody's touting "no arrests" as the lede.

im melting down for getting called out for calling the cops that kettled and mass arrested 200 people who are being faced with felony charges and then the next day went and high fived the women march "pigs"

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:35

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

jarofpiss posted:

but i think it's important that people think about why it was so readily accepted by the status quo.

possibly because "Trump Administration mows down American women with tear gas and water hoses" isn't a good look for Day -2 of the regime of Donald I

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:36

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

ps juggalos are cool

http://time.com/4521464/insane-clown-posse-killer-clowns/

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:36

DrPossum: May 15, 2004; i am not a surgeon

anime was right posted:

so uh doesnt the hiring freeze (assuming it lasts) mean that they wont hire anyone for the 2020 census

which means they'll give it to a private company...

hey rear end in a top hat, i don't know if you've heard the word but there's no reliable way to quantify numbers of people SO DON'T EVEN TRY

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:36

Agrajag: Jan 21, 2006; gat dang thats hot

deadgoon posted:

guys Net Neutrality will kill streaming, video games, anime, pornography, weed, alcohol, and your pets

im fine with all of that except the porn bit

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:36

100 degrees Calcium: Jan 23, 2011

It's good that no one got arrested but I don't think I'd brag about it.

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:36

Vertical Lime: Dec 11, 2004

Baloogan posted:

http://www.infowars.com/wheres-alex-see-if-you-can-spot-infowars-founder-in-inauguration-photo/

man they're not even trying anymore

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:37

Agrajag: Jan 21, 2006; gat dang thats hot

Agrajag posted:

im fine with all of that except the porn bit

papa needs his fix of hentai-uguuuu

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:37

paranoid randroid: Mar 4, 2007

jarofpiss posted:

im melting down for getting called out for calling the cops that kettled and mass arrested 200 people who are being faced with felony charges and then the next day went and high fived the women march "pigs"

oh no, agreed, acab

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:37

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

though it's not like 63 million Americans cared that Trump bragged about attacking women so maybe it would have gone over okay

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:37

Michael Bayleaf: Jun 4, 2006; Tortured By Flan

Baloogan posted:

http://www.infowars.com/wheres-alex-see-if-you-can-spot-infowars-founder-in-inauguration-photo/

I see him

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:37

Agrajag: Jan 21, 2006; gat dang thats hot

paranoid randroid posted:

oh no, agreed, acab

remember the police are redhatters. dont let their false kindness fool you.

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:38

paranoid randroid: Mar 4, 2007

like i feel like that should be a baseline expectation of posting itf - acab, cant corner the dorner

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:38

Epic High Five: Jun 5, 2004

mormonpartyboat posted:

it was kind of the other way around

selma had protests which were cracked down on with insane force, and people saw that and were shocked and became sympathetic which led to kennedy switching his mind and going full bore on civil rights - and his death gave johnson a huge dick to waggle to get it done. but then watts happened and actual violence caused all kinds of social pressures that resulted in the resurgence of conservatism which helped get nixon into office. obv way more complicated, but in terms of immediate results mass violence was p bad

the important thing is to not think of a threat of mass violence as an action that demands a reaction - it's not. mass violence generally makes things worse in the short term. but what it does is shift the window of dialogue and give the peaceful resistors space to differentiate themselves and argue their position. law is a social contract, violent actors break the contract and in so doing cede a seat at the table, while the peaceful actors renegotiate the contract after the violence has passed. plus it kind of ignores that when we use 'violence' we talk about physical violence and sacrifice the argument that lawful actions - or systemic pressures - can also be violence. black people demanding, say, their voting rights is a response to violence from the outset and violence in response to violence is wholly distinct from unprovoked violence

this banh mi is v good whooooooo

The backlash was the shine wearing off and whites completing realignment and embracing the talking points the segregationists had been saying all along. Nixon was going to kill Section 5 but didn't because he thought the whole loving country would explode in violence.

More critically though, what you used to have was people willing to leave the lock step of the party to defend the VRA or voting rights generally. You don't have that anymore. If Trump were to reinstate selective literacy tests and poll taxes not a single Republican would oppose him. Anybody who fights for the defense of Constitutional rights has no allies on the right and they've already shown that their intention is violence.

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:38

Brother Friendship: Jul 12, 2013

Michael Bayleaf posted:

I see him

Where is he? I'm like one of those robots that can't see anything that will hurt and upset me.

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:38

jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

paranoid randroid posted:

oh no, agreed, acab

well gently caress then im done seriousposting as long as we can agree on that

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:38

Michael Bayleaf: Jun 4, 2006; Tortured By Flan

When I woke up earlier this day I heard the phrase "Here comes the female. She's never not the bride" in my head. Anybody know what this might mean

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:39

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

https://twitter.com/BadIandsNPS/status/824045729140318208

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:39

Leviathan: Oct 8, 2001; _{I hear the jury's

still out.. on science.}; Fun Shoe

mormonpartyboat posted:

mass violence generally makes things worse in the short term. but what it does is shift the window of dialogue and give the peaceful resistors space to differentiate themselves and argue their position.

uh, pretty much every repub legitimately believes BLM is a centralized organization dedicated to killing cops and white ppl in general. they believe this because it's the only reality presented to them in the media they consume. lol if you think these dumbass hicks are going to see nuance in the separation of violent and non-violent demonstrators who both have goals antithetical to theirs

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:40

paranoid randroid: Mar 4, 2007

jarofpiss posted:

well gently caress then im done seriousposting as long as we can agree on that

*nods sincerely* ed balls

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:40

limp dick calvin: Sep 1, 2006; Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.

Tomorrow morning I'm going to my congressman office to drop off a letter to him and talk to his staff about how dicked up the VA is

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:40

Epic High Five: Jun 5, 2004

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

basically 100% this

which is why we need the help of juggalos breaking the windows of goldman-sachs offices

I'd proudly stand beside Juggalos in the defense of the working man

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:40

Michael Bayleaf: Jun 4, 2006; Tortured By Flan

Brother Friendship posted:

Where is he? I'm like one of those robots that can't see anything that will hurt and upset me.

bottom row, 3rd from the right

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:40

ErIog: Jul 11, 2001

cams posted:

single payer was never in the actual text, the public option was a part of the aca up until joe "i represent the health insurance industry" lieberman said that he'd only vote for it if they got rid of the public option, and they needed his vote.

Yeah, that's why I said it was jettisoned "before any negotiation," and I was careful to say "conservative," and not GOP.

My point is that the opening salvo from most Dems on the hill is to surrender in a fruitless attempt to avoid the inevitable confrontation. It doesn't matter if it's Blue Dogs or the GOP. It happened over and over again under Obama, and these useless pricks are doing it again under Trump.

They think the GOP is going to throw them a bone for being so cordial when that's just not how the game is played.

# ? Jan 25, 2017 01:41