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OldMemes posted:I love the ranting of people about elitist celebrities when they voted in an unqualifed 'billionaire' celebrity to be president. John Wayne is my favorite counter to this they think he is the epitome of maniless because he played cowboys in movies therefore everything he says is gospel.
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Jan 24, 2017 19:46
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Communists and leftists. That's what my grandpa tells me whenever I go to visit him in Argentina.
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Jan 24, 2017 20:22
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Does anyone have that text about how "John Q. Conservative wakes up every day, drives past a hundred examples of government programs that exist to improve his life, and then goes on the internet to complain about how he's never needed any help in his life"?
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Jan 25, 2017 02:04
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Jurgan posted:That's what my grandpa tells me whenever I go to visit him in Argentina. How's old Adolph doing anyhow?
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Jan 25, 2017 02:10
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the_steve posted:Does anyone have that text about how "John Q. Conservative wakes up every day, drives past a hundred examples of government programs that exist to improve his life, and then goes on the internet to complain about how he's never needed any help in his life"? This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration. At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issued by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school. After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department. I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right.
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Jan 25, 2017 02:54
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Dienes posted:Might not be the one you are thinking of, but... That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
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Jan 25, 2017 05:51
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Wasn't Patton batshit insane and wanted to nuke Korea until the president was like "no, goddamnit, you moron"?
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Jan 25, 2017 06:13
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Defenestration posted:Wasn't Patton batshit insane and wanted to nuke Korea until the president was like "no, goddamnit, you moron"? I think that was MacArthur and China.
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Jan 25, 2017 06:27
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Defenestration posted:Wasn't Patton batshit insane and wanted to nuke Korea until the president was like "no, goddamnit, you moron"? macarthur was a huge narcissist (which is why trump likes him aside from the history channel factor) and kept doing ever more risky and stupid things in korea, to prove he was the greatest general of all time. except then he sent his dudes straight into the worst possible position, straight into endless mountains in winter with no support or proper gear, got them killed pointlessly, and basically started a land war with china. and then he wanted to use nukes on the chinese to stop him from getting owned and protect his reputation, at which point truman fired him which was politically difficult and a big deal boner confessor fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jan 25, 2017 |
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Jan 25, 2017 06:37
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boner confessor posted:macarthur was a huge narcissist (which is why trump likes him aside from the history channel factor) and kept doing ever more risky and stupid things in korea until he had basically started a land war with china and then wanted to use nukes on the chinese to stop him from getting owned and protect his reputation, at which point truman fired him which was politically difficult and a big deal
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Jan 25, 2017 06:40
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Defenestration posted:cool I was halfway there. He added more, you can do it!
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Jan 25, 2017 07:41
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Mcarthur was probably still super mad at all-things-Asian after getting stomped on in the Philippines in WWII.
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Jan 25, 2017 14:07
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Defenestration posted:Wasn't Patton batshit insane and wanted to nuke Korea until the president was like "no, goddamnit, you moron"? Patton was the guy who went into a field hospital and beat up a malaria patient for being weak. The controversy was so great and Patton so important for propaganda that the victim got his military career assassinated and the victims parents back home publicly forgave Patton. Pattons excuse was that he had no idea how sick the patient really was. Master strategist Patton almost got himself knocked out of the war entirely after he was ambushed by the fact that a field hospital may contain sick or injured people.
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Jan 25, 2017 14:17
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So what's Ike's secret shame. Or was he mostly not bad?
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Jan 25, 2017 14:35
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Even in the movie where it's the soldier having "nerves" it's pretty telling when it's the rear end in a top hat watching battles with binoculars telling guys getting shot at that they aren't tough enough.
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Jan 25, 2017 14:36
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Playstation 4 posted:So what's Ike's secret shame. Or was he mostly not bad? He knew the threat of the military industrial complex but didn't have the courage to strangle it.
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Jan 25, 2017 14:56
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Dejawesp posted:Patton was the guy who went into a field hospital and beat up a malaria patient for being weak. The controversy was so great and Patton so important for propaganda that the victim got his military career assassinated and the victims parents back home publicly forgave Patton. This worked out pretty well for the Allies though. When planning D-Day, they stationed Patton at a fake camp as a diversion (Patton's Ghost Army) complete with inflatable tanks and fake barracks, knowing that there'd be a spy to carry that information back to the Germans. Patton, still being big poo poo, legitimized the diversion.
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Jan 25, 2017 15:58
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Playstation 4 posted:So what's Ike's secret shame. Or was he mostly not bad? He did very little actual commanding of soldiers. He was selected because of his staff ability and his political savvy.
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Jan 25, 2017 16:18
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IIRC, Patton also wanted to roll directly into fighting the Soviet Union once Berlin fell.
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Jan 25, 2017 16:26
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1stGear posted:IIRC, Patton also wanted to roll directly into fighting the Soviet Union once Berlin fell. Yeah, patton's secret shame was wanting war (I think) with Russia. He and mcarthur were two peas in a pod, in their way.
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Jan 25, 2017 16:29
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1stGear posted:IIRC, Patton also wanted to roll directly into fighting the Soviet Union once Berlin fell. Churchill did too, if I recall. Edit: wrong British guy Vriess fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jan 25, 2017 |
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Jan 25, 2017 16:52
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Ainsley McTree posted:Yeah, patton's secret shame was wanting war (I think) with Russia. He and mcarthur were two peas in a pod, in their way. It wasn't exactly a secret, unless you just mean it's been buried in memes since then.
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Jan 25, 2017 16:54
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1stGear posted:IIRC, Patton also wanted to roll directly into fighting the Soviet Union once Berlin fell. So did Churchill, but no one seems to hold that against him. Playstation 4 posted:So what's Ike's secret shame. Or was he mostly not bad? As president, he started all the civil religion crap we have today, like putting "In God We Trust" on money, "under God" in the pledge, and the National Prayer Breakfast. Not terrible on their own, but they opened the door for the religious right. Other than that, Ike was the last good Republican president (except maybe HW Bush).
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Jan 25, 2017 16:56
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I had to post this so I wouldn't respond. It's crazy how you can't know anything about Trump because you don't personally know him, but Obama is an open book.  Oh and the final bit about unfollowing and being sad for them, gotta be sure to let them know you have the moral highground. Reminds me of this comic. 
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Jan 25, 2017 18:13
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I wonder what that person thinks "debunked" means
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Jan 25, 2017 18:22
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My mom was getting on me about the whole "you have to support your President" thing the other day. My response was that I support America and the President is not above criticism (also citing all the NOT MY PRESIDENT bullshit from the Obama presidency). I'm a grown loving man, I don't have to like the President.
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Jan 25, 2017 18:51
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I'd like to think people are smart enough this time not to allow that "support the office" bullshit but the types of idiots that think you can reason with a nazi seem like they want to die being polite.
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Jan 25, 2017 18:54
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Shadin posted:Yeah, my parents made too much money for me to get financial aid, and not enough to actually help me with school. I was in that sweet spot of take out huge amounts of debt and start my life underwater, or join the military. Bringing this up to elaborate on, not defend, my position. Yes, Pell Grants are hard as hell to get money out of unless you are very, very poor--and there are actually ways around that, too. However, for me (and I can't expect everyone to agree) getting student loans (which are from the government at this point and are not income-based) can cover tuition costs as well as giving a stipend of about $5k-7k per semester to supplement a part-time job or whathaveyou. What I mean is that going into the military is not the only option to go to school. Racking up debt isn't great but getting hurt/killed across the world is a concern for joining the military to go to school. If school is the only reason for an individual to go into the military then I'd urge them to consider this. I also want to point out that debt sucks but federal student loans are at much lower interest rates compared to that available to most people for other types of loans--let alone young people. Admittedly, the debt will not get wiped through bankruptcy, so that's a concern. The loans can also be put on a hiatus when the ex-student is unemployed or has other demonstrable hardship. Lastly, of the 11.6 million jobs created after this last recession 8.4 million of these jobs went to those with at least a bachelor's degree. Debt sucks, but consistent employment at higher income levels is an admirable goal. The Sean fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jan 25, 2017 |
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Jan 25, 2017 19:45
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Playstation 4 posted:So what's Ike's secret shame. Or was he mostly not bad? He was also responsible, directly or indirectly through the CIA, for the toppling of democracies that happened to choose the wrong type of leader (i.e. possibly socialism-friendly ones) See the 1953 coup in Iran (overthrew elected a Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh), 1954 coup in Guatemala (President Jacobo Arbenz), and the 1960 abandonment and possible assassination of Patrice Lumumba in Congo. E: He's still rightly regarded as one of the greatest presidents, but like most he had his problematic policies.
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Jan 25, 2017 19:50
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The Sean posted:Bringing this up to elaborate on, not defend, my position. Yes, Pell Grants are hard as hell to get money out of unless you are very, very poor--and there are actually ways around that, too. However, for me (and I can't expect everyone to agree) getting student loans (which are from the government at this point and are not income-based) can cover tuition costs as well as giving a stipend of about $5k-7k per semester to supplement a part-time job or whathaveyou. What I mean is that going into the military is not the only option to go to school. Racking up debt isn't great but getting hurt/killed across the world is a concern for joining the military to go to school. If school is the only reason for an individual to go into the military then I'd urge them to consider this. Student loans being a slightly nicer form of debt than others doesn't mean that tens of thousands of dollars of debt isn't still a lovely way to ensure one ends up with a decent job.
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Jan 25, 2017 20:10
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The Sean posted:Bringing this up to elaborate on, not defend, my position. Yes, Pell Grants are hard as hell to get money out of unless you are very, very poor--and there are actually ways around that, too. However, for me (and I can't expect everyone to agree) getting student loans (which are from the government at this point and are not income-based) can cover tuition costs as well as giving a stipend of about $5k-7k per semester to supplement a part-time job or whathaveyou. What I mean is that going into the military is not the only option to go to school. Racking up debt isn't great but getting hurt/killed across the world is a concern for joining the military to go to school. If school is the only reason for an individual to go into the military then I'd urge them to consider this. Oh no, I get where you're coming from. It's definitely doable, but after I ran the math I figured I'd end up with a lot more debt than young me was comfortable starting life with, especially since what I really wanted to do in life was teach. I almost went into the military, but I heard that Bush Jr got the nomination and figured we'd end up at war so I played the wait and see. Since I had no interest in being shot at or shooting anyone, I was aiming towards one of the intelligence gigs that had a high signing bonus and was unlikely to ever be a boot on the ground. It was an extremely attractive proposition to come out four years later with money in the bank and free money for college, as opposed to trying to work full time while going to school and coming out the other end saddled with soul-crushing bankruptcy-immune debt.
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Jan 25, 2017 20:25
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Nice job hedging your bets there. Glad to hear it worked out!jivjov posted:Student loans being a slightly nicer form of debt than others doesn't mean that tens of thousands of dollars of debt isn't still a lovely way to ensure one ends up with a decent job. I cant argue. I can only say that "a lovely way" is sometimes nearly the "only way."
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Jan 25, 2017 21:13
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The Sean posted:Nice job hedging your bets there. Glad to hear it worked out! Yeah, I mean, SysAdmin is sorta kinda like being a college professor, right? BRB gonna go cry in a supply closet.
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Jan 25, 2017 21:20
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DarkHorse posted:He was also responsible, directly or indirectly through the CIA, for the toppling of democracies that happened to choose the wrong type of leader (i.e. possibly socialism-friendly ones) I agree that those were bad things that we're still paying the price for (especially Iran), but by that standard they're pretty much all terrible. Is there any Cold War era president who didn't arrange some sort of third world coup? Maybe Carter.
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Jan 25, 2017 21:24
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Jurgan posted:I agree that those were bad things that we're still paying the price for (especially Iran), but by that standard they're pretty much all terrible. Is there any Cold War era president who didn't arrange some sort of third world coup? Maybe Carter. Truman? Ike started it though. He had the idea that we'd lose fewer people for the same objectives in covert actions versus open war. Didn't seem to realize how objectives can multiply when the methods are kept from any oversight.
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Jan 25, 2017 23:53
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jivjov posted:Student loans being a slightly nicer form of debt than others doesn't mean that tens of thousands of dollars of debt isn't still a lovely way to ensure one ends up with a decent job. Trade school is usually cheaper.
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Jan 26, 2017 02:05
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Jurgan posted:I agree that those were bad things that we're still paying the price for (especially Iran), but by that standard they're pretty much all terrible. Is there any Cold War era president who didn't arrange some sort of third world coup? Maybe Carter. Carter's steadfast backing of the Shah of Iran is part of what led to the 1979 Iranian Revolution and Iran's subsequent hostility to the US.
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Jan 26, 2017 02:25
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Presidenting is hard
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An An-Cap I know has gotten super salty over the Richard Spencer thing and Antifa in general, to the point that he switched his picture to a riff on the Anti-Fastiches Aktion logo, but it says Anti-Communist and uses An-Cap colors. And he posted this little gem in responsed to someone sayin the Alt-Right is lead by literal white supremacistsquote:That's not necessarily true. Many people in the alt-right care about others, and some are non-white that don't believe in white supremacy. Moreover, I don't think your issue is their social stance as much as it is that they want to use force to impose their lovely ideas, no? If they just wanted to be white supremacists and let everybody else do their own thing, then gently caress'em we could simply socially and spatially separate ourselves from them He is also of the opinion that protesting Milo is unethical because it violates Milo's free speech, and he posted this picture.  I have been responding by sending remixes of Spencer getting punched in the head.
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