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D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012


Who gives a poo poo, seriously

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Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:

In general, the alt-right movement denies the holocaust

http://www.dailystormer.com/a-normies-guide-to-the-alt-right/

The alt-right is not the same thing as national socialism, but the differences are mainly cosmetic
Do people who spout this poo poo really not see, even for a second, how telling it is that their stance is "the Holocaust DEFINITELY did not happen... but even if it did, it would be okay."? Or do they just think we don't?
They're saying Hitler was right and that men, women, and children "deserved" to be executed, but they know that's not going to fly with most people so they tack on "ah but it's a lie anyway so don't sweat it".

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME


Haha yeah, can you imagine?

SwitchbladeKult
Apr 4, 2012



"The warmth of life has entered my tomb!"
That alt-right prick that got punched denies being a Nazi.

I think we are putting too much thought into this. Analysing why they do it is counterproductive. All we are doing is trying to use empathy, something they completely lack, to better understand their humanity and assign reason to their actions, which is more than they don't deserve since they are loving Nazis.

Just keep referring to them as Nazis until it sticks. :colbert:

FicusArt
Dec 27, 2014

Why would I draw dudes when I could be drawing literally anything else?

SwitchbladeKult posted:

That alt-right prick that got punched denies being a Nazi.

He also says nazis have branding issues and should go by titles like alt-right instead.

https://twitter.com/alexandraerin/status/823055233555238913

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord
The historical Nazis always called themselves Nationalists instead of Nazis.

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


SwitchbladeKult posted:

That alt-right prick that got punched denies being a Nazi.

I think we are putting too much thought into this. Analysing why they do it is counterproductive. All we are doing is trying to use empathy, something they completely lack, to better understand their humanity and assign reason to their actions, which is more than they don't deserve since they are loving Nazis.

Just keep referring to them as Nazis until it sticks. :colbert:
There is something funny about the fact that for all the arguing over whether it's okay to punch Nazis, everyone accepts the fact that Spencer is a Nazi as part of the premise, which itself is probably one of the best PR weapons against him.

(Besides punching.)

(Which is good.)

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Trogdos! posted:

:godwinning: alert



So KKKlurf doesn't seem to think himself a Nazi because see, he only believes in 14, not 88! The (((6 million))) are happy because there is infighting between the 14-people (alt-right) and the 14/88-people (Nazis).

Will someone please doxx the Nazi Klurf already?

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames

TheBigAristotle posted:

Will someone please doxx the Nazi Klurf already?

Do you really want 100 comics from him portraying himself as a martyr under attack from racial caricatures?

SwitchbladeKult
Apr 4, 2012



"The warmth of life has entered my tomb!"

OldTennisCourt posted:

Do you really want 100 comics from him portraying himself as a martyr under attack from racial caricatures?

Worth it

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009






Hey, you remember the coup in Turkey last year? It was apparently worse (and more confusing) than we thought.

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

what

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
Instead of blaming everyone of voting for Trump we should jump out a window. AGC.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


I'm guessing it's a response to those post-election hot takes about "the Rust Belt will lose their healthcare but it's okay, they deserve death for voting the way they did"

in which case yeah it's a little late for relevance

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003

loquacius posted:

I'm guessing it's a response to those post-election hot takes about "the Rust Belt will lose their healthcare but it's okay, they deserve death for voting the way they did"

in which case yeah it's a little late for relevance

People are still saying that though.

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After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:

Most of them don't claim to want to exterminate Jewish people, just to defeat and expel them. The holocaust doesn't really fit their narrative of an enlightened and peaceful Nazi paradise society.

I mean, even a lot of the historical Nazis had a hard time stomaching the holocaust and chose to deny it as Ally propaganda. There is a reason why Hitler tried to keep the death camps as secret as possible and spread fake stories about Jews being resettled to Madagascar or whatever. It's absolutely horrifying and incomprehensible to a sane human mind.

From the interview with Goebbels' secretary last August, which everyone should read:

quote:

“I know no one ever believes us nowadays – everyone thinks we knew everything. We knew nothing, it was all kept well secret.” She refuses to admit she was naive in believing that Jews who had been “disappeared” – including her friend Eva – had been sent to villages in the Sudetenland on the grounds that those territories were in need of being repopulated. “We believed it – we swallowed it – it seemed entirely plausible,” she says.




Lubchansky just wanted to dramatize the death of the USPol thread.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Trogdos! posted:

:godwinning: alert



So KKKlurf doesn't seem to think himself a Nazi because see, he only believes in 14, not 88! The (((6 million))) are happy because there is infighting between the 14-people (alt-right) and the 14/88-people (Nazis).

Looks like it's time to report his patreon again.

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012


You're gonna have to do a political cartoon about President Trump eventually.

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Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Steve Bell's website:


Bonus! Tribune magazine:

Brexit: Theresa May promises White Paper on EU exit plan

Telegraph:

Brexit: Supreme Court says Parliament must give Article 50 go-ahead

Independent:


Times:


Mail:
Mac on... The judiciary's foray into the political realm

'No M'lud. The first round was from the Lib Dems, then Nicola Sturgeon - this one's from Jeremy Corbyn.'

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


In which the US Worker is coaxed out of the cozy protective shelter of Obama's policies by an extremely sinister-looking Donald Trump, in an apparent pro-Trump cartoon

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

You can point out that he boasts about being "targeted" by the ADL on his patreon for supporting labeling Jews online with the "((()))" thing. Also if you want a source to cite on the meanings of "14" and "88," if you don't just want to use Wikipedia's page on the topic, the ADL has a hate symbol database.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

loquacius posted:

In which the US Worker is coaxed out of the cozy protective shelter of Obama's policies by an extremely sinister-looking Donald Trump, in an apparent pro-Trump cartoon

This was my first reading too

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Are we sure it isn't supposed to be read that way?

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

loquacius posted:

In which the US Worker is coaxed out of the cozy protective shelter of Obama's policies by an extremely sinister-looking Donald Trump, in an apparent pro-Trump cartoon

both the evil smirk on trumps face and the worried look on the worker guy make me think that this is intended to be a little anti-trump, but knowing its glenn makes me think it can't be

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:

quote:

The only way to subvert the Jewish obsession with bringing up the Holocaust whenever any White person claims they have a right to exist is to viciously mock the story, in large part by pointing out that they have yet to produce any physical evidence that it actually happened. Beyond laughing about the fact that Jews are such chronic liars that they invented a story about millions of people being gassed in fake shower rooms and made into furniture and cleaning products, the Alt-Right also asserts that if it had happened, it would have been justified due to the collective behavior of the Jews.

The mockery of the Holocaust fits into the theory that you cannot win by apologizing, as apologizing is the realm of losers.

what the loving gently caress is this loving fuckstick loving saying gently caress? Are mass graves of the victims and the facilities to do it both having the same loving extremely toxic chemical NOT evidence? Backed up with sworn testimony from some of the loving perpetrators? And some of the loving planning documents?

loquacius posted:

I'm guessing it's a response to those post-election hot takes about "the Rust Belt will lose their healthcare but it's okay, they deserve death for voting the way they did"

in which case yeah it's a little late for relevance

Death, no, but a vicious mocking... kinda, yeah.

Keiya fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jan 25, 2017

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

That's a bit to clean of a split there, JRROSE!

I haven't posted Classic Derf for awhile, since it's been mostly yuppie garbage, but I liked this one. And a new Peters.


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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord

Keiya posted:

what the loving gently caress is this loving fuckstick loving saying gently caress? Are mass graves of the victims and the facilities to do it both having the same loving extremely toxic chemical NOT evidence? Backed up with sworn testimony from some of the loving perpetrators? And some of the loving planning documents?

They deny the holocaust because they believe that it's the only reason why people dislike the Nazis. They think that if they can bring people around on "clean" Nazism then they can bring them around on the holocaust being justified.

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

Keiya posted:

what the loving gently caress is this loving fuckstick loving saying gently caress? Are mass graves of the victims and the facilities to do it both having the same loving extremely toxic chemical NOT evidence? Backed up with sworn testimony from some of the loving perpetrators? And some of the loving planning documents?
Time to check in with Dees!







Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
I enjoyed that Ted Rall cartoon.

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012


Go Falcons.

The Pats are Trumpers. Just like you, McKee!

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
I can't really get mad at Dees since he has legit mental issues. Can someone post those weird comics where he was convinced people were breaking into his house and slightly moving his shoes?

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord

OldTennisCourt posted:

I can't really get mad at Dees since he has legit mental issues. Can someone post those weird comics where he was convinced people were breaking into his house and slightly moving his shoes?

I can, because Neo-Nazis love his work

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Deniers look at all the evidence, declare it false, then ask why there is no evidence. It's beautiful in its own hosed up, confusing way.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Improbable Lobster posted:

I can, because Neo-Nazis love his work
The Nazis also loved Snow White.

So did the Gremlins.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Shugojin posted:

Deniers look at all the evidence, declare it false, then ask why there is no evidence. It's beautiful in its own hosed up, confusing way.

I like how this applies equally to holocaust and climate deniers.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Keiya posted:

what the loving gently caress is this loving fuckstick loving saying gently caress? Are mass graves of the victims and the facilities to do it both having the same loving extremely toxic chemical NOT evidence? Backed up with sworn testimony from some of the loving perpetrators? And some of the loving planning documents?

How to be a right-wing fuckhead:

Step 1: tell your opponents "you have no proof"
Step 2: ignore whatever they're saying
Step 3: go back to step 1.

I think that with all the stuff about "post-truth" and "alternative facts" people should understand that you can't reason with right-wingers. They'll just say that you're the liar and ignore the truth. Whether it is about Nazi crimes, climate change, evolution, or the roughly spherical shape of the Earth, it doesn't matter, their strategy is always the same. There will always be enough simpletons who will be confused into agreeing with them, or going for a meek "the truth must be in the middle" bullshit.

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord

Fulchrum posted:

The Nazis also loved Snow White.

So did the Gremlins.

I don't remember the part of Snow White where the Dwarves look for evidence to prove the holocaust never happened

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