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Fingers McLongDong posted:Should I invest points in my hero in boomerangs? Someone mentioned they weren't good late game and I made an assumption based on jrpg stereotypes that the hero would end up with the best swords. 52 points in rangs gets you Super Throw, one of the best attack-all skills in the game. Unlike thin air, you don't run into resistance issues with it either. Swords aren't really useful until the post-game, imo. Boomerang is the hero's best random encounter weapon and spear is his best boss weapon.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 20:48 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 01:07 |
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Aw, [minor post game spoilers] Dragon Soul isn't in this version of the game. I didn't expect to be honestly, but it made post game bossing so much easier.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 21:03 |
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I just met Angelo last night and welp this game definitely has the best cast of any DQ game since 4/5 You can just tell that they had a loving blast making the game, everything about it is just fun, in stark contrast to how so much of 7 felt like it existed only on sufferance.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 21:03 |
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What's the deal with Psyching up?
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 21:31 |
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Dr. Fetus posted:What's the deal with Psyching up? Pretty much the standard double damage next hit for one use.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 21:32 |
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Dr. Fetus posted:What's the deal with Psyching up? In terms of mechanics, you mean? 5 tension, an ability will do 1.7x as much. At 20 tension, 3x as much. At 50, 5x, At 100, 7.5x as much. And at any level of tension, you ignore resistances. Anything that does fixed levels of damage/healing/whatever (Fullheal, for example) won't take tension from you.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 21:33 |
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Supremezero posted:In terms of mechanics, you mean? Ah, thanks. Yeah, that's what I meant.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 21:38 |
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Also some status effect will kill your tension so don't get gimped by a sleep spell right before you get off your 100 tension hit
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 21:39 |
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Pretty much every boss past midgame will spam a move that resets all your buffs, including tension, too, so. Use it or lose it
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 21:53 |
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Metallia posted:Aw, [minor post game spoilers] Dragon Soul isn't in this version of the game. I didn't expect to be honestly, but it made post game bossing so much easier. It is, you just get it later.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 22:01 |
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Should I invest points in my hero in boomerangs? Someone mentioned they weren't good late game and I made an assumption based on jrpg stereotypes that the hero would end up with the best swords. Boomerangs are the best weapon for mobs by far. Slap points into Boomerangs and Spears for the hero and you're pretty much set. If you want to use swords then just have Angelo do it.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 22:13 |
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You at least want to get Power Throw cause that removes the whole "diminishing returns" thing with boomerangs
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 22:18 |
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So in the 3DS version does Tension 100 still have the dumb random fail chance or does it always work like the prior stages?
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 22:22 |
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ComposerGuy posted:Boomerangs are the best weapon for mobs by far. Slap points into Boomerangs and Spears for the hero and you're pretty much set. If you want to use swords then just have Angelo do it. Well I put 9 points in swords already so hopefully that doesn't change much. I did notice the boomerang in the first shop had a higher attack than the sword.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 22:27 |
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Well I put 9 points in swords already so hopefully that doesn't change much. I did notice the boomerang in the first shop had a higher attack than the sword. That's more because it's higher tier. Swords start outstripping Boomerangs in pure power pretty much immediately. And Swords are perfectly fine/better comparable to spears. They just take longer to get going. Lances are better at metal slimes early on, but then you get the falcon blade, metal slash, and targetted tension boosts, and can oneshot Metal King Slimes almost 100% of the time, compared to Lances 50%. Lances are even for single targets for a while, but then Falcon Slash with the Falcon Blade happens and all bets are off. Supremezero fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Jan 25, 2017 |
# ? Jan 25, 2017 22:42 |
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Yo supremezero are you aware of a good list of all the new recipes for this version? I'm about to have a full party with the 6th character and wants to start decking my dudes out properly(and setting up future good recipes).
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 23:33 |
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Zaggitz posted:Yo supremezero are you aware of a good list of all the new recipes for this version? I'm about to have a full party with the 6th character and wants to start decking my dudes out properly(and setting up future good recipes). That's comprehensible? Nope.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 23:38 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:So in the 3DS version does Tension 100 still have the dumb random fail chance or does it always work like the prior stages? It still has the dumb random fail chance, but Morrie specializes in raising tension, both for himself and others.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 01:46 |
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It took me 15 tries but beating S rank in the Monster Arena as soon as it's unlocked is very worth it. I tried Talos/Curer/Sterops then tried Skeledoid instead of Talos, got it on my 3rd try. Morrie's liquid metal slime going down turn 1 was very important. I kind of want to try hammers for Morrie but IIRC making the best hammer requires the best axe, which conflicts with Yangus. Does the 3DS version make it possible to have both the best axe and best hammer along with the best spear and best boomerang?
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 02:02 |
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Lord Ephraim posted:It took me 15 tries but beating S rank in the Monster Arena as soon as it's unlocked is very worth it. I tried Talos/Curer/Sterops then tried Skeledoid instead of Talos, got it on my 3rd try. Morrie's liquid metal slime going down turn 1 was very important. Yes.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 02:03 |
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I get that it's not this series' "thing" but honestly QoL improvements in item/equip management, respec potential, etc would really be nice.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 02:40 |
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Lord Ephraim posted:It took me 15 tries but beating S rank in the Monster Arena as soon as it's unlocked is very worth it. I tried Talos/Curer/Sterops then tried Skeledoid instead of Talos, got it on my 3rd try. Morrie's liquid metal slime going down turn 1 was very important. I used Talos Skeledoid and Octurion. took me two tries.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 03:18 |
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I don't understand why they couldn't make it so you could transfer/equip items to a character who wasn't carrying that item you wanted to equip. Like, why do I gotta move things from the bag into the character's inventory and then equip it why couldn't the equipable items be set in a "pool" and then automatically transferred to that character if you equipped it.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 03:28 |
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Calaveron posted:I don't understand why they couldn't make it so you could transfer/equip items to a character who wasn't carrying that item you wanted to equip. Like, why do I gotta move things from the bag into the character's inventory and then equip it why couldn't the equipable items be set in a "pool" and then automatically transferred to that character if you equipped it. Doesn't it ask you if you want to equip an item when you move it to the inventory of a character that can use it?
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 03:31 |
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Vakal posted:Doesn't it ask you if you want to equip an item when you move it to the inventory of a character that can use it? Yes but my first instinct when getting new equipment is to go to the Equip menu (which also has a super dumb design) only to have to go back to the item menu, bag, select the item, move it to the character I want it on and then select yes I want to equip that thing now.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 03:42 |
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3DS DQ Translation project 80+ percent complete which game is it? Stay tuned to find out In the mean time, watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd0D6Y0uFIc
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 03:45 |
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Oh no, a giant alaskan bull worm
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 03:50 |
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Lord Ephraim posted:It took me 15 tries but beating S rank in the Monster Arena as soon as it's unlocked is very worth it. I tried Talos/Curer/Sterops then tried Skeledoid instead of Talos, got it on my 3rd try. Morrie's liquid metal slime going down turn 1 was very important. I used Talos/Octurion/Steropes and won in two or three tries. Octurion is the best healer hands down but you just gotta pray he isn't retarded for your run. You can get a second Conquerer's Axe before the final boss, in a new bonus dungeon.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 04:11 |
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Man, when I first heard Kalderasha's voice in DQ8 3DS, I knew that I was on a magical journey of silly accents.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 04:14 |
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Wait, so I should do boomerangs for the MC? I've put 15 into swords.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 04:58 |
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Unmature posted:Wait, so I should do boomerangs for the MC? I've put 15 into swords. That's where I am too is it actually going to be a problem?
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 05:06 |
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No swords are fine.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 05:07 |
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That good. I have about 13 in Swords until the game started selling lances, which I switched over to them and now up to 37 in them.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 05:08 |
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I put swords on every character that I could and I'm coasting through the game pretty easily, even took care of the hardest boss on my first try
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 05:10 |
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Swords are all-around good but don't really excel at anything until the endgame. Lances are great at boss killing. Boomerangs are great at AoE attacks. None are really bad. Boomerangs make the main plot easier but the postgame harder, otherwise whatevs.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 05:10 |
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Unmature posted:Wait, so I should do boomerangs for the MC? I've put 15 into swords.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 05:13 |
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It's impossible to allocate skill points in such a way that the main game becomes troublesome, but there are some optional skills that are significantly more useful against the post-game superbosses.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 05:15 |
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So what are the skills to avoid in general?
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 05:15 |
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Dr. Fetus posted:So what are the skills to avoid in general? They all pull their weight pretty well. The main thing is that it's better to invest heavily in two skill trees than lightly in all five.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 05:20 |
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Dr. Fetus posted:So what are the skills to avoid in general? Off the top of my head, the 100 point skills are garbage universally except for Hustle Dance, aka the entire reason to bother with Sex Appeal.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 05:36 |