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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Subjunctive posted:

I used to like Robert Anton Wilson's novels. So much for that.

http://www.backlash.com/content/gender/1996/5-may96/wilson05.html

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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Honestly it's not the lovely college boy skepticism that bothers me so much as an inability to follow through

He more or less accepts the NRx framing of any situation as basically correct and doesn't bother thinking about any possibilities that might make him uncomfortable.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

The Vosgian Beast posted:

loving act like it then

I think he engages in as much obscurantism as he can when defining his positions so that he can get away with defending the worst kind of Nazis on the internet. Like, he's pretty adamant about not having a strict position so that he can do poo poo like defending the worst sort of authoritarian collectivists while calling himself an anti-authoritarian individualist, and even an anarchist.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

the name of the website is misspelled on their own header

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨


:bang:

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/824029538552315905
lmao
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/824035789524897792
LMAO

if it's any consolation, rev, I only care about you insofar as I can laugh at your terrible opinions

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
I thought we thought that Scott Alexander was a racist idiot not a nazi?

GUYS I'M SO CONFUSED RIGHT NOW THE HIVEMIND IS BREAKING DOWN THE HIVEMIND IS BREAKSDANDAHFGASDFNASDM

Frogisis
Apr 15, 2003

relax brother relax

Subjunctive posted:

I used to like Robert Anton Wilson's novels. So much for that.

FWIW Cosmic Trigger is still kinda neat in a bongthink way but we're like a million years of technological development away from Aleister Crowly being the most relevant source of metaphors for our day-to-day lives.

MikeCrotch posted:

I thought we thought that Scott Alexander was a racist idiot not a nazi?
Maybe not so much that he's a racist idiot but that he's an idiot too naively enamored with an image of intellect he picked up off a plastic Spock lunchbox and the legitimacy of the status quo to see how easily that's just more racism.

E: So many of these internet intellectual types strike me as just constantly reinventing the wheel and falling into the same traps as people who said the same thing centuries ago; like they're smart in the fundamental sense but never read anything without a spaceship, wizard, or schoolgirl on the cover so they independently invent libertarianism when they're 12 and never move on from that. It's like a right-wing version of all those otherkin types who are so sheltered they don't realize that yeah everyone feels that way and it's called daydreaming. But while some people realize "lol poor people should just work harder!" is a dumb idea when they hit puberty, some never develop a more sophisticated method of conceiving of rational argument than what lead them to that.

Frogisis has a new favorite as of 00:17 on Jan 26, 2017

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
I like how he just ignored everything we said and just sort of repeated himself from when he felt the need to defend Scott Alexander's honor last time

EDIT https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/824031381533687808

Whoever is doing that, don't do it. Nobody needs that

The Vosgian Beast has a new favorite as of 15:23 on Jan 25, 2017

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Whoever is doing that, don't do it. Nobody needs that

I'm pretty sure calling the person who's username is President Rev "Rev" is not at all unique to something awful dot com forums posters but it's not like Rev has ever let that get in the way of jumping to conclusions so :shrug:

Also I'm pretty sure the thread's opinion is that Scott is Charles Lindbergh, so not a nazi but the guy who's going "aw c'mon guys this whole national socialism thing doesn't sound half bad, who are we to judge"

Sax Solo
Feb 18, 2011



More doormat than Nazi.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

ate all the Oreos posted:

I'm pretty sure calling the person who's username is President Rev "Rev" is not at all unique to something awful dot com forums posters but it's not like Rev has ever let that get in the way of jumping to conclusions so :shrug:

Also I'm pretty sure the thread's opinion is that Scott is Charles Lindbergh, so not a nazi but the guy who's going "aw c'mon guys this whole national socialism thing doesn't sound half bad, who are we to judge"

I think we're the only ones other than his actual friends who care about his existence, though

Then again he says we think he's secretly ClarkHat, which I don't think anyone has even suggested

The_Book_Of_Harry
Apr 30, 2013

divabot posted:

posted!

and y'know, i have been personally harassed, defamed and legally threatened by the church of scientology. i give zero fucks after that.

(why did the CoS come after me? This. Totally worth it.)

(my sysadmin on that site? Julian Assange. Wikileaks is, in fact, my fault - hosting my Scientology site was the practice run for dealing with over-resourced arseholes armed only with the facts. I will concede that this has worked out variably.)

Mr. G-d (you handsome devil), why did you lecture that poor young man in a barred-up farmhouse?

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Browsing St_Rev's twitter did give me this wonderful human being

https://twitter.com/YeyoZa

Oh yeah you RECLAIM that fecal matter based insult :allears:

Fuck Whitey
Nov 9, 2016

by SA Support Robot

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Browsing St_Rev's twitter did give me this wonderful human being

https://twitter.com/YeyoZa

Oh yeah you RECLAIM that fecal matter based insult :allears:

aaaaaaand he's followed by one of my favorite musicians. what the hell

Frogisis
Apr 15, 2003

relax brother relax
poo poo you're right I was definitely not firing on all cylinders yesterday. I do have a hunch a lot of people are just operating out of sheer cognitive dissonance due to an inability to give up Just World beliefs but I went back and looked at some more deep cuts and ehhh maybe not so much.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Browsing St_Rev's twitter did give me this wonderful human being

https://twitter.com/YeyoZa

Oh yeah you RECLAIM that fecal matter based insult :allears:

He's one of those evo psych loving HBDers who go on about regressive leftists who don't accept just-so hereditist theories without any actual evidence behind them. I think he's branched out more into the more hardcore scientific racist side of HBD rather than just the sexist evo psych since the last time I was aware of his twitter posting career.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

I think we're the only ones other than his actual friends who care about his existence, though

Oh, he's making plenty of friends and followers from a very specific section of the internet

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/824125709840957440

I don't know why the gently caress he's surprised. Racist Nazis have always loved obfuscation of their true beliefs behind obtuse ideological labels.

Fututor Magnus has a new favorite as of 06:21 on Jan 26, 2017

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Browsing St_Rev's twitter did give me this wonderful human being

https://twitter.com/YeyoZa

Oh yeah you RECLAIM that fecal matter based insult :allears:

quote:

Sees the alt-right and SJWs as ideological twins.

Jesus christ we're gonna need to buy an emote for that drill/zenpencils comic at this point it comes up so drat often

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

:psyduck:

https://twitter.com/Dhollizzle/status/824366298410872832
https://twitter.com/withwhatrapture/status/824367956566114305

"Over the last 2000 years christianity existed and also we don't live in caves anymore, what have you done for us lately you goddamn gays?"

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
oh no this is terrible violence has entered the realm of political debate and discussion whatever shall we do

https://twitter.com/babycommie666/status/824470856004833280

punch Richard Spencer again, probably

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

divabot posted:

oh no this is terrible violence has entered the realm of political debate and discussion whatever shall we do

https://twitter.com/babycommie666/status/824470856004833280

punch Richard Spencer again, probably

It's a good response to a variety of situations.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

I sure hope the media doesn't turn this into "people sure do hate Richard Spencer and only Richard Spencer" like they did with Martin Shkreli.

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010

divabot posted:

oh no this is terrible violence has entered the realm of political debate and discussion whatever shall we do

https://twitter.com/babycommie666/status/824470856004833280

punch Richard Spencer again, probably

Bragnanimous ‏@TFHBarcherda 11h11 hours ago
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@oceandebruit @babycommie666 being a white supremacist doesn't necessarily make him a nazi

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
The undercut was actually a very popular haircut in Germany in the early 20th century



Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

LibrarianCroaker posted:

Bragnanimous ‏@TFHBarcherda 11h11 hours ago
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@oceandebruit @babycommie666 being a white supremacist doesn't necessarily make him a nazi

This just made me realize there are probably people out there who are 100% nazis except don't use that term because it has the word "socialist" in it despite having little to do with actual socialism.

"I mean sure I want to kill all those jews and purify the master race with cleansing fire but don't get the wrong idea, I'm not some kind of socialist"

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Imagine wanting to be a white supremacist, but not the kind of white supremacist that gets to wear cool Hugo Boss uniforms

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

The Vosgian Beast posted:

The undercut was actually a very popular haircut in Germany in the early 20th century





Nazis have bad hair, it's just one of those cosmic things.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

The Vosgian Beast posted:

The undercut was actually a very popular haircut in Germany in the early 20th century





dye their hair blue and they'll be ...

























feminazis

:rimshot:

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

ate all the Oreos posted:

This just made me realize there are probably people out there who are 100% nazis except don't use that term because it has the word "socialist" in it despite having little to do with actual socialism.

"I mean sure I want to kill all those jews and purify the master race with cleansing fire but don't get the wrong idea, I'm not some kind of socialist"

You see, Hitler's social cleansing and white supremacy were great and all but his inability to repeal Von Bismarckcare was a real deal breaker.

Syd Midnight
Sep 23, 2005

ate all the Oreos posted:

This just made me realize there are probably people out there who are 100% nazis except don't use that term because it has the word "socialist" in it despite having little to do with actual socialism.

"I mean sure I want to kill all those jews and purify the master race with cleansing fire but don't get the wrong idea, I'm not some kind of socialist"

Either they haven't noticed that the most iron handed ideological states have lies like "People's", "Democratic" etc. in their name, or they are the scrub tier that gets fooled by jedi mind tricks like "The Democratic Republic of".

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

ate all the Oreos posted:

Jesus christ we're gonna need to buy an emote for that drill/zenpencils comic at this point it comes up so drat often

He's a real single issue voter on this. All of his tweets are about it.

Also he retweets Geoffrey Miller

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Cross-postin' from the youtube mock thread:

Chrungka posted:

Admit it, which one of you regressive leftist are responsible for this: https://twitter.com/Sargon_of_Akkad


See guys, twitter DOES deal with lovely people!

Sometimes!

Like years after it would have mattered!

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Speaking of twitter, as of reading this thread, I have a new favorite: Alexandr Dugin, ideological mentor to both Steve Bannon and Vladimir Putin.

As you'd expect from someone who spends less time kvetching about progs and more time actually spreading his ideas to the highest levels of international political power, he gives his position a vastly less twee and more direct name: Traditionalism. Traditionally, you see, women knew their place, lesser nations were kept clean and organized, and there was definitely none of this gay stuff. The opposite of traditionalism is liberalism, which, as he gently puts it "is an absolute evil" and "must be destroyed."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw&t=106s

Oh, sorry! Specifically, he said "American liberalism must be destroyed." Well, we've all heard that plenty in the last few years (especially when you consider that he considers it synonymous with globalization) but he was saying it in the nineties. Back then he was pretty fringe (he had only just learned to shut the gently caress up about numerology) but his message - that what Russia needed most was "genuine, true, radically revolutionary and consistent, fascist fascism" - became more and more popular over time, and has even [s]been spread[/]spontaneously generated itself, by blessed coincidence, in the US. Actually, wow, a whole bunch of ideas which took off here in the past decade or so seemed to start with him:

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/808102186521608192

So as the world hurtles itself into a new century of horror (compared to the last one we're only slightly behind schedule), just remember that if any of your fellow-travelers start weeping about what's been lost and who's to blame, you can always turn to them smugly and say "well actually, if you read Dugin's The Foundations of Geopolitics you'll find" just before they cut your throat to steal your boots and any food you're hiding.

Cavelcade
Dec 9, 2015

I'm actually a boy!



Lisa was making swamp metaphors back in 1991. I don't think you can credit him with that.

Skittle Prickle
Oct 28, 2005

The best-tasting pickle I ever heard!
So in light of recent events, is scott alexander going to walk back his previous posts that we are ""crying wolf"and using unfair accusations of dogwhistling against the poor president, who has been prematurely called an "open racist""

No, he stands by it! Because he already knew trump was going to ban muslims when he made those posts, so his massive screeds of trump apologia were fine!


He's somehow trying to thread the needle of admitting that trump is a xenophic racist while also claiming the liberals are being hysterical in calling him an open loving racist.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Remember when he used the same argument of "I once described X in negative terms" to dismiss his odd relationship to neoreaction? Or the opposite in regard to his phobia towards feminism.

E: I'm expecting him to get into Trumpism or support of Trump / Trumpists in a self-denialy sort of way just as he did with neoreactionaries.

Fututor Magnus has a new favorite as of 23:15 on Jan 29, 2017

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Yes Scott, it is definitely the people who criticize you on Twitter who do not have their priorities in order right now

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/796388921735135232

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/796389373142929408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/sources-report-trump-executive-order-lgbtq-community-coming-soon/

I for one am deeply surprised an apolitical Zhuangist skeptic in the tradition of Hume and Stirner could not predict this extremely easy to predict outcome

Space Poodle
Nov 11, 2007

Doc Hawkins posted:

Speaking of twitter, as of reading this thread, I have a new favorite: Alexandr Dugin, ideological mentor to both Steve Bannon and Vladimir Putin.

As you'd expect from someone who spends less time kvetching about progs and more time actually spreading his ideas to the highest levels of international political power, he gives his position a vastly less twee and more direct name: Traditionalism. Traditionally, you see, women knew their place, lesser nations were kept clean and organized, and there was definitely none of this gay stuff. The opposite of traditionalism is liberalism, which, as he gently puts it "is an absolute evil" and "must be destroyed."

There are a bunch of kids on Tumblr (I know. Tumblr. SJW ground zero.) pushing the Traditionalism thing, in the context of Russian rechristianization, making starry eyes at Poland as the last bastion of European "Christendom," and defeating Islam--mostly Orthodox and sedevacantist/Latin Mass Only Catholics. I have never heard of Dugin before, but I bet that is where they all got the idea.

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El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
One of the main guys pushing the traditionalism stuff in the US is the same dude who several years ago was trying to get the whole "white student union" thing off the ground. He's and extremely gross looking weirdo who shows up at protests with a big orthodox cross he made out of plywood and is generally a huge creep.

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