Truga posted:

Well, yeah, but now it's also legal. Until now there was that safe harbour replacement thing: http://fortune.com/2016/02/02/looks-like-data-will-keep-flowing-from-the-eu-to-the-u-s-after-all/

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Except AV started out like how Carbon or Cylance did (lean, effective, buzzworthy, etc) and other popular applications started out. It was decades of feature creep, poor competition, out of control pricing, etc that killed the AV industry.

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Windows 8/10 with the MS built-in protection or Linux + clamav
Sometimes I used CClenaer and/or Spybot to deal with something really nasty, but the MS stuff really does a good job (Someone checked if the hell is frozen now ?)

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I have 150 ish machines on eset across a few different clients, obviously my experience with it has been very good over the years in all aspects. Eset don't offer the biggest margins but I stick with them because it doesn't cause support issues and I can count the number of infected eset machines I've had to deal with on one hand.

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I have the impression that the AV business is some kind of mixture of scam and mafia.

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Who writes all these viruses ?
I mean, I've experimented with assembler when I was a teenager and I may have developed some kind of program which could replicate itself.. but I highly doubt today's viruses are written by teenagers...
Who and why do people write viruses ? Is this a thing at all or are all the viruses written by the Antivirus makers themselves ?
More 'threats' is good news for the A/V makers so why not have a separate department which develops them ?
I wouldn't be surprised at all, given that much crazier things are happening in this world..
Can anyone confirm or disprove this ?

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If you need AV, consider F-secure. They do quality products and take security seriously.

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Defender has the nasty habit of aggressively scanning new games I download off Steam. There are two occasions where it'll do it:
- While it's downloading it seems to scan each chunk. I have a gigabit connection, with defender off I can download at nearly full speed. With it on I can download at about 1MB/s.
- While the game loads a level. For example, the intro level to the new Deus Ex took over 10 minutes to load the first time. At that point I disabled defender entirely and just promised myself I would be careful. Naive, I know, but at least I can play my video games.

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In principle, I agree with the article.
Personally, on Win7 I use a combination of 3 things:
- MSSE - TinyWall as a lightweight firewall - heavily modified HOSTS file
Never had malware/virus problems and sometimes I do visit shady webistes or download quirky software.

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Any relevant information about Avast? I'm using their free version for 10 years and don't have any major complains.

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While many AV companies are really bad, AV per say is still an extra layer of security. Telling people to remove a layer of security is bad advice. There's a problem though and if I knew how to solve it I'd be rich!

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Most people forget the malware on hacked website. Browsers won't give you a warning. (OK. Chrome will show you a RED screen but not for all) They need not hack into your system. But they collected your login info, credit card. I even want to install one on my MacOS.
MS AV still too slow at the moment. In Windows 10, you could turn on Defender to run both AV at the same time.

Subjunctive posted:

So how is this the same as it's been then?

flakeloaf posted:

to the extent that the law can be flexed, for compelling reasons like "because we can" and "gently caress you"

Truga posted:

difference is, now it's legal for nsa to read my mail
it's the same since i'm pretty sure they'd do it if they wanted to do it

Shaggar posted:

lol. like you had any recourse against the government when it was "illegal"

anthonypants posted:

gonna be a cold four years talking about secfucks without being able to mention us policy ever

OSI bean dip posted:

pls do not d&d this thread

OSI bean dip posted:

pls do not d&d this thread

infernal machines posted:

Security Fuckup Megathread - v13.2 - DON'T HACK THE PRESIDENT YOU FUCKS!

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

https://twitter.com/Nash076/status/824656400320253959

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

what does your heart tell you

Shaggar posted:

pretty sure the asterisks are the same count for all addresses to prevent disclosing length so presssec or presssecretary would both work

Shaggar posted:

pretty sure the asterisks are the same count for all addresses to prevent disclosing length so presssec or presssecretary would both work

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WauchulaGhost says he found the likely email associated with Melania Trump's handle within twenty minutes. He said the email associated with Vice President Mike Pence was easy to guess once you saw the redacted version: vi***************@gmail.com, which WauchulaGhost pieced together as vicepresident2017@gmail.com. It has since been changed, but the president and first lady's email addresses remain the same. (And the VP account still doesn't have the extra layer of security.)

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LastInLine posted:

its cute that you think the trump administration will last four years and also laughable that you think the following administration will change these policies

the thing about surveillance policies is every government believes they are the only ones moral enough to have such power so no one ever walks them back