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Fidel Castronaut posted:I think the Oberlin College thing with protesting the sushi in the cafeteria on the grounds of cultural appropriation was cringey poo poo because rich kids (e.g. Lena Dunham) go to Oberlin and they never seemed to give a poo poo about the poor, likely brown, woman who was serving them that sushi and her working conditions. But cultural appropriation is an actual concern because, like, rock and roll and rap are mediums that communicate the black experience and involve tons of black labor and then we erase the labor and the black experience and sell Macklemore and Elvis tracks. It's bad stuff. But people oversimplify it for sure. Not only that but most of their criticism seemed to be over the quality of the food. It was a bunch of rich kids mad that their school cafeteria isn't as good as the $100/plate place back home.
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MaxxBot posted:Not only that but most of their criticism seemed to be over the quality of the food. It was a bunch of rich kids mad that their school cafeteria isn't as good as the $100/plate place back home. It's not as authentic as the rice bowls Toshi makes at the sushi bar in soho, what is this white nonsense?
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Fidel Castronaut posted:Sure, maybe Macklemore wasn't a perfect comparison, not that I was trying to make a 1:1 comparison but the fact is that he won his Grammy against Kendrick Lamar because his rap was more pleasant to white sensibilities than Lamar's confrontational politics. Compare Macklemore's "Downtown" to Lamar's "Alright" where he says 'We hate the popo when they shoot us down in the streets fo' sho'." Their audiences do not overlap as much as you seem to think they do. Counterpoint: Kendrick had one good track and is insanely overrated. His decline with each successive album is taking him into Lil B territory. We haven't seen a transition from "most important rap in the world" to "whack bullshit" this fast since Arrested Development. Meanwhile, Mackelmore (and more importantly Ryan Lewis) know how to make bangers that get a party started.
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tenspott posted:Counterpoint: Kendrick had one good track and is insanely overrated. His decline with each successive album is taking him into Lil B territory. We haven't seen a transition from "most important rap in the world" to "whack bullshit" this fast since Arrested Development. Meanwhile, Mackelmore (and more importantly Ryan Lewis) know how to make bangers that get a party started. Also Kendrick always struck me as a man with mostly white fans, anyway.
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tenspott posted:Counterpoint: Kendrick had one good track and is insanely overrated. His decline with each successive album is taking him into Lil B territory. We haven't seen a transition from "most important rap in the world" to "whack bullshit" this fast since Arrested Development. Meanwhile, Mackelmore (and more importantly Ryan Lewis) know how to make bangers that get a party started. Counterpoint: I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and I like to kiss my own butt.
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tenspott posted:Counterpoint: Kendrick had one good track and is insanely overrated. His decline with each successive album is taking him into Lil B territory. We haven't seen a transition from "most important rap in the world" to "whack bullshit" this fast since Arrested Development. Meanwhile, Mackelmore (and more importantly Ryan Lewis) know how to make bangers that get a party started. hahahahahahah holy poo poo
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Karl Barks posted:hahahahahahah holy poo poo In 15 years, this era will be remembered for trap, not Kendrick. Look into your heart. You know this to be true.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 16:57 |
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F I R S T W O R L D P R O B L E M S
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 17:28 |
i like learning and sharing in other people's cultures appropriately and respectfully and have integrated some of these things into my life fight me
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 17:29 |
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no
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Man Musk posted:F I R S T W O R L D P R O B L E M S complaining about first world problems is kind of c-spam's thing even in that context appropriation is kind of a luxury problem though because it isn't Trump
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 17:35 |
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imo this is a good article that describes cultural appropriation (even though it doesn't actually use the phrase) http://www.grubstreet.com/2015/08/fox-all-white-bbq-pitmaster-list.html quote:Fox News is getting some serious flack for a recent guide to the country’s “most influential pitmasters and BBQ personalities.” Shortly after the list was published, Texas Monthly barbecue editor and Prophets of Smoked Meat author Daniel Vaughn, who was included in the story, noticed something curious about the list: Everyone featured was white.
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eonwe posted:i like learning and sharing in other people's cultures appropriately and respectfully and have integrated some of these things into my life
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We are all one culture. The human culture.
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tenspott posted:Kendrick had one good track and is insanely overrated. His decline with each successive album is taking him into Lil B territory. We haven't seen a transition from "most important rap in the world" to "whack bullshit" this fast since Arrested Development. Meanwhile, Mackelmore (and more importantly Ryan Lewis) know how to make bangers that get a party started. Is that a raincoat?
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Main Paineframe posted:imo this is a good article that describes cultural appropriation (even though it doesn't actually use the phrase) Wow, barbecue should transcend race, it lives anywhere there are whole hogs to cook and hungry people and that's pretty much anywhere from the poorest pig farmer's hut god knows where on up to the loftiest halls of power. An all-anything barbecue list is as bizarre as it is offensive and an all-white one takes the cake! I am finally mad about appropriation, thanks.
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http://moufawad-paul.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/cultural-exploitation-instead-of.htmlquote:Amongst the revanchist left cultural appropriation becomes a moralistic taboo to the point of undermining subaltern contributions to left discourse. For example, when a predominantly white group of people declare Maoism "cultural appropriation"––despite the fact that Maoism was wagered as a universal political tendency––signals a complete disintegration of the concept.
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Main Paineframe posted:imo this is a good article that describes cultural appropriation (even though it doesn't actually use the phrase) Wait... are you saying that Fox News panders to racists??
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Pajser posted:lol when is the hollywood sexual abuse movie coming out, because only children's video games are allowed to talk about that dont talk about the hollywood pedophile ring bro
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 20:39 |
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White people can't make good food. They can only take a trip to some other country on their parents money, eat some cultural dish once, then incorrectly think that they can make the same stuff as well, so they come home to start a ramen shop or whatever in some rapidly gentrifying neighborhood, churn out an overpriced disgusting knockoff and ramble about the "artistry" oblivious to the fact that thier implementation is devoid of charm until either they go under or get bored with it and move on to the next thing. This usually happens in waves of whatever the fad of the time is, so any attempt by actual people of said culture to serve the same thing is either blocked out cause there's already 80 white hipster joints catering to specific time sensitive taste of urbanites or left to scrap for the leftover business after the fad dies out. I can see why people would be sensitive of any cultural artifacts catching the eye of white people.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 21:46 |
god forbid anyone should cater to their customers tastes
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Sounds like "white people" means coastal liberals to you
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HailHorrorHail posted:White people can't make good food. itt a white person clutches pearls over fusion cuisine and food trends in middle-america (that originated in ethnic neighborhoods and restaurants in trendy coastal cities) Mirthless has issued a correction as of 22:09 on Jan 26, 2017 |
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Whitey Cracker in the trendiest little neighborhood in Des Moines can't cook a good samosa to save his life, appropriation! appropriation! edit: oh wait i already made this post way earlier in ths thread Mirthless posted:It's not as authentic as the rice bowls Toshi makes at the sushi bar in soho, what is this white nonsense? Mirthless has issued a correction as of 22:13 on Jan 26, 2017 |
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HailHorrorHail posted:White people can't make good food. careful, if you get any edgier you might cut yourself
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 22:09 |
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I think cultural appropriation has been a part of white culture for so long that it is a core tenant of white culture now.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 22:14 |
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itt white people getting irritated about the imaginary people in their head who are getting mad at them for eating chipotle.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 22:17 |
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Fidel Castronaut posted:itt white people getting irritated about the imaginary people in their head who are getting mad at them for eating chipotle. lol dude he's right here: HailHorrorHail posted:White people can't make good food.
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HailHorrorHail posted:White people can't make good food. The French are predominantly white.
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HailHorrorHail posted:White people can't make good food. If this isn't a troll or a c/p from somewhere, where on earth do you live where this is the case? Maine? I live in loving Minnesota and I don't think I've seen a single ethnic food place where it was just a bunch of white dudes in the kitchen.
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Mirthless posted:lol dude he's right here: Oh man, that's tough. I hope you're able to cope with that guy's comment that is totally the same as being mad at you for eating at Chipotle.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 22:31 |
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ugh! those restaurant owners are such jerks! they look so happy when they serve you their cuisine, but you know that they're secretly disgusted with you! how can they stab their customers in the back by making delicious food while reveling in their destructive ecstasy! the ruin of society, I tell you! they're out to completely wreck us!
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 22:32 |
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"Hey, as a person who belongs to the dominant culture, you really should do a solid and learn some stuff about the culture that created the things you enjoy." "OH MY GOD, CAN I NOT EAT A CHALUPA IN PEACE!??!?!"
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 22:32 |
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Fidel Castronaut posted:"Hey, as a person who belongs to the dominant culture, you really should do a solid and learn some stuff about the culture that created the things you enjoy." So that's what taco bells are like in socal...
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 22:34 |
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hosed up that Mexicans use limes for guacamole if you ask me, that poo poo is not native to the americas
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 22:36 |
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"Rock and roll was created by the grandkids of slaves who weren't allowed to play certain venues and had white record execs serve them with lovely contracts and some of them outright had their music stolen by white artists." "I AM REALLY THE BURDENED PARTY HERE BECAUSE YOU ARE DEFINITELY DEMANDING I BURN MY LED ZEPPELIN SHIRT!"
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Fidel Castronaut posted:"Hey, as a person who belongs to the dominant culture, you really should do a solid and learn some stuff about the culture that created the things you enjoy." fun fact: members of non-dominant cultures don't learn about this poo poo either, nobody cares
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Fidel Castronaut posted:"Hey, as a person who belongs to the dominant culture, you really should do a solid and learn some stuff about the culture that created the things you enjoy." That's reasonable, it also doesn't resemble HailHorrorHail's post at all.
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 22:37 |
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life is too short. eat a chalupa
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# ? Jan 26, 2017 22:38 |
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Fidel Castronaut posted:"Hey, as a person who belongs to the dominant culture, you really should do a solid and learn some stuff about the culture that created the things you enjoy." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYHHCRm-R-U&t=265s
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