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Ihmemies posted:I want to play with commander shepard. I don't even care about the plot holes and other related continuity issues. Just let me play with Shepard. Or at least call me commander. Hmm you can rename the heroes in ME4 and customize their faces? That just might solve my problem! What does it matter? How is one Bioware Space Marine Mary Sue different from any other?
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Dolash posted:Mass Effect always seemed to imply the galactic taboo on AI research was something humanity didn't much care about and was really only officially obeying while continuing all sorts of AI experiments off the books. It's not surprising they'd roll it out for their big extra-galactic mission ("Everything's legal in international waters!"), although it might turn out that the other Pathfinders (there's one for each Council Race's ark, right?) don't have their own. SAM warped the ship to the wrong place because Dad Ryder programmed him in imperial units instead of metric. Beefstew posted:Also, why is Peebee's skin all smooth? By the time ME3 rolled around, the asari had pretty prominent scales. Unfortunate side effect of centuries of Ditto breeding. Vaccines developed, but nothing to be done for existing cases. One thing from the trailer: At the very beginning, Cora (it is Cora, right?) walks onto the bridge from the left, and I think there's something wrong with her spine. 
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Wait a second, maybe you guys already discussed this but in the team video, Dad Ryder went through the original "Welcome to the universe humans!" relay, and the Arks have been in flight for 600 years or whatever, but the dude doesn't look more than late 50s. So what hilarious part of this am I missing? Is Bioware just forgetting its own poo poo, or did Dad Ryder spend like ten years in this bold new universe of alien species and poo poo and go "Alright put me to sleep for 600 years, gently caress this poo poo".
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FronzelNeekburm posted:One thing from the trailer: At the very beginning, Cora (it is Cora, right?) walks onto the bridge from the left, and I think there's something wrong with her spine. I was too busy wondering if Scott Ryder had a back injury or is literally a marionette judging by how he walks onto the bridge.
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Orv posted:Wait a second, maybe you guys already discussed this but in the team video, Dad Ryder went through the original "Welcome to the universe humans!" relay, and the Arks have been in flight for 600 years or whatever, but the dude doesn't look more than late 50s. So what hilarious part of this am I missing? Is Bioware just forgetting its own poo poo, or did Dad Ryder spend like ten years in this bold new universe of alien species and poo poo and go "Alright put me to sleep for 600 years, gently caress this poo poo". I'm not up on all the ME lore or anything, but I recall them saying that people can live to be 150, so Dad Ryder could be a lot older than he looks.
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Orv posted:Wait a second, maybe you guys already discussed this but in the team video, Dad Ryder went through the original "Welcome to the universe humans!" relay, and the Arks have been in flight for 600 years or whatever, but the dude doesn't look more than late 50s. So what hilarious part of this am I missing? Is Bioware just forgetting its own poo poo, or did Dad Ryder spend like ten years in this bold new universe of alien species and poo poo and go "Alright put me to sleep for 600 years, gently caress this poo poo". Humans opened the relay almost 30 years before ME1. He went through that as a fresh faced 20 year old and now he's in his 50s/60s and wants to recapture his youth with something even grander in scale. Classic mid-life crisis scenario.
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marshmallow creep posted:Humans opened the relay almost 30 years before ME1. He went through that as a fresh faced 20 year old and now he's in his 50s/60s and wants to recapture his youth with something even grander in scale. Classic mid-life crisis scenario. I think Rydermom will also probably play into the decision somehow.
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So, there is no mass effect relays in andromeda right? how is that going to work? Are we just going to get some 'lucky every single planet in this new trilogy are super super close to eachother" or like some "turns out we could fly as fast as we wanted without them but lets not just go back to the milky way with this super speed" or will we discover mass effect relays at some point in the game? Or just forget about it all and suddenly space ships can fly around the whole galaxy.
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Man, I wouldn't want to watch an episode of Star Trek with some of you pedants.Owlofcreamcheese posted:So, there is no mass effect relays in andromeda right? how is that going to work? Are we just going to get some 'lucky every single planet in this new trilogy are super super close to eachother" or like some "turns out we could fly as fast as we wanted without them but lets not just go back to the milky way with this super speed" or will we discover mass effect relays at some point in the game? Or just forget about it all and suddenly space ships can fly around the whole galaxy. This game is set in one star cluster.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:So, there is no mass effect relays in andromeda right? how is that going to work? Are we just going to get some 'lucky every single planet in this new trilogy are super super close to eachother" or like some "turns out we could fly as fast as we wanted without them but lets not just go back to the milky way with this super speed" or will we discover mass effect relays at some point in the game? Or just forget about it all and suddenly space ships can fly around the whole galaxy. Remember how every star cluster in previous games had tons of planets you could scan you just didn't have missions on them? This time you can go down to all of them.
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8one6 posted:" you'll bang, okay?
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I think I don't wanna bang any of these people
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MechaSeinfeld posted:I think I don't wanna bang any of these people The true canary in the coal mine of any Bioware game.
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Ashley got way hotter in ME3, and she spends less time talking about Making the Alliance Great Again. Granted, some of that is because a robot punched her brain.
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marktheando posted:Man, I wouldn't want to watch an episode of Star Trek with some of you pedants. Also, this is not supposed to be the start of a new trilogy. This one game is its own thing and if it works out they may make more games in Andromeda, but for all we know there could be another centuries-long gap while they build mass effect relays or discover other forms of FTL.
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All Mass Effect games from this point on will be set in different galaxies to escape the plots of their predecessors.
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exquisite tea posted:All Mass Effect games from this point on will be set in different galaxies to escape the plots of their predecessors. Betting  that somewhere along the next two games there will be a "return to the milky way" main questline/dlc
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Slightly less hyperbolically, they may kick off by visiting a new cluster in Andromeda. "Boy, it sure is great things worked out in Helios and we can start expanding to other clusters!"
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Transmetropolitan posted:Betting Yeah, except the ending of mass effect 3 could leave everyone dead or as weird cyber robots or with shepard as an immortal reaper swarm god. Going back to the milky way would require deciding a lot of twisting things around to show anything and pretty much never could fit with the possible universes the last game left with.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Yeah, except the ending of mass effect 3 could leave everyone dead or as weird cyber robots or with shepard as an immortal reaper swarm god. Going back to the milky way would require deciding a lot of twisting things around to show anything and pretty much never could fit with the possible universes the last game left with. I was thinking myself that it would be much more likely that it would involve copious amounts of spacemagic - call it a dimensional rift or whatever - that sends people back to the milky way but a million years into the future which has nothing recognizable in it because of exactly the reasons you mentioned.
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Well, going back to the Milky Way would involve another 600 years in cryo napping. After 1200 years, they could probably get away with just about anything.
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marshmallow creep posted:Well, going back to the Milky Way would involve another 600 years in cryo napping. After 1200 years, they could probably get away with just about anything. God Emperor of Dune-type Shepard Reaper! Or just a new society with a bunch of these images laying around  
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marshmallow creep posted:Well, going back to the Milky Way would involve another 600 years in cryo napping. After 1200 years, they could probably get away with just about anything. If you do the "refusal" ending then everyone in the entire galaxy is dead and all that remains is some tapes Liara made that will get dug up 50,000 years later by the people of the next cycle.
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BexGu posted:God Emperor of Dune-type Shepard Reaper! Where is this from? That's pretty cool.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Yeah, except the ending of mass effect 3 could leave everyone dead or as weird cyber robots or with shepard as an immortal reaper swarm god. Going back to the milky way would require deciding a lot of twisting things around to show anything and pretty much never could fit with the possible universes the last game left with. I don't think it would be that difficult to reconcile if they adopted the Deus Ex strategy of "all endings are partially true." The Reapers are for the most part destroyed, God-Shepard is floating around out there somewhere, and Joker's hat is alive.
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Serf posted:Where is this from? That's pretty cool. I can't remember exactly who did themt but it was something I remember from the gently caress Yeah Mass Effect site (and tumbler). There is actually a third one (One for each ending in the different styles for the three major species) that I couldn't find.
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I hope to god that they didn't name the AI SAM so that the plot can bring out ME3's old chestnut of "ORGANICS AND SYNTHETICS CAN'T LIVE TOGETHER SO EVERYONE HAS TO BE CYBORGS!" And you become the wonderfully gender neutral name Sam Ryder.
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Are we talking about a star cluster like a cluster of stars, or a solar system?
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exquisite tea posted:I don't think it would be that difficult to reconcile if they adopted the Deus Ex strategy of "all endings are partially true." The Reapers are for the most part destroyed, God-Shepard is floating around out there somewhere, and Joker's hat is alive. It really does just seem so much better to not ever go back to the milky way. If they want to bring nostalgia it's so much easier to have bullshit sci-fi reasons to bring back anything they want by having them come to the andromeda galaxy. Like any character can come back as a clone or vi or whatever, any species can have come on their own secret ship, the only thing that would be hard to get back to is locations and it feels like mass effect didn't have any locations that were iconic enough to wade into 'what ending was real" except the citadel and if they want that back it's easy to say "the reapers built two, but the andromeda one never activated" or "it has the most powerful mass relay in the universe, it warped to andromeda after the ending" or something stupid like that.
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I disagree, I think trying to make sense of the galaxy in the aftermath of the Reaper War and the implications that all meant in terms of diplomatic instability, competition for resources etc. would have been really interesting. Now instead we're getting Meme Effect in the most generic sense possible for fear of offending anyone. It's bland bland bland.
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Transmetropolitan posted:Don't poke too hard or it will come crashing down. lmao this never occurred to me. It was only 20 years between finding the relay in ME1 wasn't it?
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Why do Humans have a whole ark if they launched before ME1? The whole beginning of that game is about how humans don't really have a place on the council or in galactic politics - they should be on the grab bag ship if anywhere at all
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The Walrus posted:Why do Humans have a whole ark if they launched before ME1? The whole beginning of that game is about how humans don't really have a place on the council or in galactic politics - they should be on the grab bag ship if anywhere at all The launch was after ME2 but before 3, planning began before ME1.
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exquisite tea posted:I disagree, I think trying to make sense of the galaxy in the aftermath of the Reaper War and the implications that all meant in terms of diplomatic instability, competition for resources etc. would have been really interesting. Now instead we're getting Meme Effect in the most generic sense possible for fear of offending anyone. It's bland bland bland. But you got to pick what the aftermath of the reaper war was. To set a game in that you'd already have to bland away any impact of the choice you made, like the refusal ending would have to just be thrown out entirely. And the geth and quarians couldn't show up because one or both of those could be extinct. The earth might be vaporized or not, you may or may not have cured the genophage, rachni may or may not be dead or alive or allies with the council. Etc, etc, mass effect 3 let you make a ton of huge choices because they knew they would never matter.
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exquisite tea posted:I disagree, I think trying to make sense of the galaxy in the aftermath of the Reaper War and the implications that all meant in terms of diplomatic instability, competition for resources etc. would have been really interesting. Now instead we're getting Meme Effect in the most generic sense possible for fear of offending anyone. It's bland bland bland. This has been discussed at length already. The shitfight mess wankfest that was ME3 meant the only way forward for the franchise was to burn everything to the ground and wipe the slate clean, hence a new galaxy. You're never going back to the Milky Way in Mass Effect.
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They aren't forcing you to play ME:A at gunpoint man.
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BexGu posted:God Emperor of Dune-type Shepard Reaper! Batarians are extinct though
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Lobok posted:Are we talking about a star cluster like a cluster of stars, or a solar system? A cluster of systems like have been in all the ME games. In the trilogy, you used a relay to reach a cluster and then bounced around investigating the systems and their planets within that cluster. Places like Argus Rho or Hawking Eta would be full of systems we'd visit with standard engines. The Andromeda Helios cluster was chosen because it's particularly dense with potential sites.
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