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kustomkarkommando posted:he's whipping them to vote for the article 50 triggering bill at its second reading with the plan to add amendments to protect certain areas (workers rights etc), MPs from remain constituencies don't want to vote for brexit
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Jan 27, 2017 16:16
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mandatory lesbian posted:he has a poiint
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cinci zoo sniper posted:it feels backwards that mps can be punished for being faithful to their constituencies *in Yankee voice* political parties are too divsive it would be better if everyone was an independent!
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Jan 27, 2017 16:18
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cinci zoo sniper posted:yeah, im laughing about the chanting bunch there. dude's a badass librarian pretty sure that is a student. dude is just trying to get homework done and a bunch of americans barged in and are hollering up a storm
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Jan 27, 2017 16:19
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WoodrowSkillson posted:pretty sure that is a student. dude is just trying to get homework done and a bunch of americans barged in and are hollering up a storm 
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Jan 27, 2017 16:21
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cinci zoo sniper posted:it feels backwards that mps can be punished for being faithful to their constituencies If it's going to pass anyway they would better serve their constituents by fighting for those additions. Symbolically dying on a hill doesn't actually do much.
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Jan 27, 2017 16:28
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:If it's going to pass anyway they would better serve their constituents by fighting for those additions. Symbolically dying on a hill doesn't actually do much.
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Jan 27, 2017 16:30
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:If it's going to pass anyway they would better serve their constituents by fighting for those additions. Symbolically dying on a hill doesn't actually do much. well if its going to pass anyway the amendments can still be tabled, a three line whip is an instruction to attend and vote as instructed - no abstentions allowed forcing MPs to vote at this stage is an attempt to send a signal that the party is not opposed to Brexit on principle, a signal which MPs from remain constituencies might not want to send out
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Jan 27, 2017 16:34
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Do not call me by my given name Mr Corbyn I have become an avatar of the people, their will made flesh
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Jan 27, 2017 16:34
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Healthy govt systems don't exist Okay KKK I don't know the nuances of politics over there
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So, these amendments Corbyn wants. Are they what Americans would consider pork (i.e. the bill gets amended to also include "Send $$$ to that project!") or is it some kind to impose conditions on the Article 50 vote (i.e. If we do not get a deal that contains x, we no longer consider this an approval to Article 50)?
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Jan 27, 2017 16:38
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Healthy govt systems don't exist
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Jan 27, 2017 16:40
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Just wait until I breach your tree shield you laughvian
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Jan 27, 2017 16:42
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Aeryk posted:Just wait until I breach your tree shield you laughvian
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Jan 27, 2017 16:44
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Randler posted:So, these amendments Corbyn wants. Are they what Americans would consider pork (i.e. the bill gets amended to also include "Send $$$ to that project!") or is it some kind to impose conditions on the Article 50 vote (i.e. If we do not get a deal that contains x, we no longer consider this an approval to Article 50)? The latter.
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Jan 27, 2017 16:55
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Tesseraction posted:The latter. That seems like it could open a whole new can of legal worms.
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Jan 27, 2017 17:09
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Randler posted:That seems like it could open a whole new can of legal worms. It's not meant to be "retroactive withdrawal of assent" it's just "don't gently caress over EU citizens living in Britain, assure X, Y and Z" which would mean that May has to give lip service to trying to provide those.
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Jan 27, 2017 17:15
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Randler posted:That seems like it could open a whole new can of legal worms. It's known that red tape worms keep govt bureaucracy together
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tbh it's probably the wisest course of action from the leadership's perspective, but he's got effectively no control over the parliamentary party anymore, and this risks deepening some of those fissures on the other hand, so would literally any other choice than having no official party stance, which would simply boggle the mind in its stupidity
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Jan 27, 2017 17:23
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brexit is a massive no-win situation for corbyn and for the labour party as a whole
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Jan 27, 2017 17:24
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Maybe we should just pay some divers and sever the underwater cables that tether England to the continent and let them drift off towards the ocean's edge.
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Jan 27, 2017 17:24
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Randler posted:Maybe we should just pay some divers and sever the underwater cables that tether England to the continent and let them drift off towards the ocean's edge.
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V. Illych L. posted:tbh it's probably the wisest course of action from the leadership's perspective, but he's got effectively no control over the parliamentary party anymore, and this risks deepening some of those fissures yeah basically labours hosed. I don't even mind the whip coming out cause at least there's an attempt to formulate a party position. The decision not to challenge the governments severely truncated timetable for debate however was a real misstep IMO I have no skin in the labour game but seeing them flail around is pretty embarrassing
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Jan 27, 2017 18:16
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I'd rather be the party that says "we told you this would be a disaster" 4 years from now than the party that says "we weren't opposed to this, but your implementation sucked" but I guess I assume many Brexiteers shouldn't be given that much credit for interpreting nuance. Maybe if Leave had won in a landslide?
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Jan 27, 2017 18:18
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Tesseraction posted:It's not meant to be "retroactive withdrawal of assent" it's just "don't gently caress over EU citizens living in Britain, assure X, Y and Z" which would mean that May has to give lip service to trying to provide those. this seems like a good move on corbyn's part
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Jan 27, 2017 18:36
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OMG sriracha pudding! posted:please help me dad chat. I want information on education policy as it relates to the charter and school voucher/choice movement; my take on it was that voucher like programs don't do much more than preserve existing levels of school segregation ('choice' means sending your white kid to school with other white kids). This is especially problematic considering integrating schools is like the only thing we know of that has a strong, measurable, and consistent [positive] impact on student performance. https://www.amazon.com/Hope-Despair-American-City-Schools/dp/0674060261/ it's about the use of economic integration vs racial, and how smaller school systems reinforce segregation the irony comes in that a bunch of people from new york tried to destroy the system so their kids didn't have to go to school with the blacks and mexicans
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Jan 27, 2017 18:37
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cinci zoo sniper posted:counterpoint: latvian government has historically been a circus commonly laughed upon nigh anywhere, and science has proven that laughing is healthy I am vanquished
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Jan 27, 2017 18:37
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Avshalom posted:due to a complex medical condition i must buy a whole new outfit every single day I wear only what nature gives us, meaning I sport my body in a layer of mud and grass straw, then when the adobe hardens I wear it until enough of it cracks to leave me vulnerable to predators or until I decide to add another layer as the climate requires
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Jan 27, 2017 18:50
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Jan 27, 2017 18:53
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i'm filth golem. brought to life in this world by the words on a poorly translated instruction manual for a chinese-made soviet bloc electronics bootleg
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Rodatose posted:i'm filth golem. brought to life in this world by the words on a poorly translated instruction manual for a chinese-made soviet bloc electronics bootleg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendy_(console)
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Jan 27, 2017 18:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn8VxfkFGX0 livestream or may-trump meeting, slightly late so not yet started
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Jan 27, 2017 19:10
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love to play mario 14 for the dendy gaming console
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Jan 27, 2017 19:26
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drat this british journalist did put a tangible effort into calling trump not-buffoon on the conference
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Jan 27, 2017 19:27
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godspeed to your people, tess and kkk, i say as i boot up the first season of keeping up appearances
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Jan 27, 2017 19:29
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I've been playing a bit of Devil Survivor: Overclocked while I'm being confined to my bed or couch. The escort missions (almost all the missions) are still bullshit even on NG+ with no fusion limit and a Loki that one-shots everything with his dance moves.
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 in other news, turkey is now threatening to halt the refugee agreement if greece does not grant extradition of turkish soldiers allegedly involved with the coup
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https://twitter.com/stl_manifest/status/824878363844042752 cool twitter account
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Speaking of British Labour being morons, I just remembered this thing.
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