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Rabid Snake
Aug 6, 2004



I won my fantasy football league and with the winnings I was going to replace my old chair (the foam is dead on my Steelcase Leap) with a new Aeron.

This is my first time buying new. Is the Herman Miller website the best website to buy it from?

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Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Rabid Snake posted:

I won my fantasy football league and with the winnings I was going to replace my old chair (the foam is dead on my Steelcase Leap) with a new Aeron.

This is my first time buying new. Is the Herman Miller website the best website to buy it from?

I'd go to a brick-and-mortar authorized dealer instead of the website. I got my Embody at 45% off what the website was going to charge me from my local dealer and they were much easier to deal with shipping-wise too.

Jack the Lad
Jan 20, 2009

Feed the Pubs

I went and sat in some Aerons at a showroom and I was really unimpressed. It's not that adjustable (mainly what bugged me was that the seat doesn't tilt much and felt like it was tilted too far forwards by default) and the front of the seat frame is kinda uncomfy.

I now have a cheapo(ish, £120) office chair from a stationery company and it's actually really good.

I guess what I'm saying is definitely don't assume that Aerons are best because they're most expensive.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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Jack the Lad posted:

I went and sat in some Aerons at a showroom and I was really unimpressed. It's not that adjustable (mainly what bugged me was that the seat doesn't tilt much and felt like it was tilted too far forwards by default) and the front of the seat frame is kinda uncomfy.

I now have a cheapo(ish, £120) office chair from a stationery company and it's actually really good.

I guess what I'm saying is definitely don't assume that Aerons are best because they're most expensive.

It's true that you have to find a chair that fits you well, for instance my Leap V2 is great for me, but some people hate them. The thing that really makes these chairs expensive is the build quality and support, I expect my Leap to last 15-20 years before needing a full replacement and it's warrantied for 12 of those years. I have another SteelCase chair that is over 25 years old and still solid, they're expensive but you get your money's worth.

Etrips
Nov 9, 2004

Having Teemo Problems?
I Feel Bad For You, Son.
I Got 99 Shrooms
And You Just Hit One.

Jack the Lad posted:

I went and sat in some Aerons at a showroom and I was really unimpressed. It's not that adjustable (mainly what bugged me was that the seat doesn't tilt much and felt like it was tilted too far forwards by default) and the front of the seat frame is kinda uncomfy.

I now have a cheapo(ish, £120) office chair from a stationery company and it's actually really good.

I guess what I'm saying is definitely don't assume that Aerons are best because they're most expensive.

You're right, the Embody is more expensive and is better!

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I prefer the Mirra (2) to the Aeron, and it's cheaper.

My personal chair is a Steelcase Think (v1), I am really happy with it. It's a bit of a departure from a lot of other chairs in that it is designed to support you however you sit, rather than trying to nudge you towards sitting a certain way.

Rabid Snake
Aug 6, 2004



The Aeron might not be the most comfy chair but it sure forces you into a correct sitting posture which is good if you work 8-5 at a desk.

ILikeVoltron
May 17, 2003

I <3 spyderbyte!

Rabid Snake posted:

The Aeron might not be the most comfy chair but it sure forces you into a correct sitting posture which is good if you work 8-5 at a desk.

This is not universally true. The chair needs to fit the person's size first and foremost.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
I made the mistake of sitting in a Gesture yesterday. The Leap I also sat in was 95% as comfy and $400 cheaper, but drat is that a nice and pretty chair.

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


I have the larger, hard carpet specific wheels on my Embody, and it's on very short carpet typically suitable for office chairs, and it rolls around just fine.

Problem is, I'm working in a bigger space now where I often bounce between 3 tables. This thing weighs 51 pounds, it's not like throwing yourself around on laminated floors in an office depot special. Even with ample breaks, after a full day, it's pretty tiring. I'd like to roll faster/easier.

Do the translucent casters decrease the rolling resistance of the chair, or do they just look cool? Was also wondering if anyone knows if there is a significant weight reduction w/ the Aluminum base vs the Graphite one? :rice:

The other solution is to get one of those plastic office chair mats. Is there a gold standard or some alternative clever solution for this? I don't particularly care for them, but I think all of my memories of them are also associated with terrible fluorescent lighting and flickering CRTs so that might be misplaced.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
Best you can get is giant casters. Chair mats are trash.
Unfortunately even with new casters it's not going to be as easy as a hard floor surface.

I have these ones: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001H96YRG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They are significantly easier to roll around on carpet than regular size.

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


Are you familiar with the translucent ones specifically? They seem pretty aggressive, hard to find a good picture of them I did find this youtube video on an eBay seller's page

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMuJyySZ0Ic

Are chair mats really that bad though?

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
I'm not familiar with those translucent ones. I should mention that I primarily bought the larger casters to keep the center post of my chair (Leap) from rubbing the carpet.

My opinion is that chair mats are universally terrible. I suppose there might be one super high quality one that I've never seen but is worth using.

Another option might be to buy a largish remnant of some low-drag carpet and get it hemmed, then use it as a rug. Depends on how far apart your 3 desks are?

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.
I have a friend who really likes the rollerblade casters he got for his chair (something like these: http://a.co/6svIiwI). He uses it on hardwood, but the diameter is big enough that I'd imagine it would work well on carpet too.

Spyde
Mar 3, 2004

It's not personal, it's strictly business.

~Coxy posted:

Best you can get is giant casters. Chair mats are trash.
Unfortunately even with new casters it's not going to be as easy as a hard floor surface.

I have these ones: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001H96YRG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They are significantly easier to roll around on carpet than regular size.
Don't casters eventually cause visible wear on most medium pile/residential carpets? This is why I've always used chair mats at home.

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


Cat Hatter posted:

I have a friend who really likes the rollerblade casters he got for his chair (something like these: http://a.co/6svIiwI). He uses it on hardwood, but the diameter is big enough that I'd imagine it would work well on carpet too.

Thanks! This is probably exactly what I need, and they're cheap. I wish someone would have told me about these when I lived in an apartment, probably would have made the people below me a lot happier. Never got any complaints tho

Carpet is extremely low pile, high traffic type stuff.



I still really would like to hear a trip report from someone who has the $300 wheels. They're probably loving awesome

Tedronai66
Aug 24, 2006
Better to Reign in Hell...
Just got two Aeron size C chairs last night for 300 bucks. I can tell why they were being sold so low now, but I think less than 200 worth of parts and I could fix them both up. They seem to be built in the late 90's, so they've held up incredibly well. The fabric seat on both might need eventual replacement but it supports my arse well enough.

Sitting in them to play some games last night was an instant relief though from my 9 year old Costco special.

One, the tilt lock just doesn't work, and the hip bolt for the seat comes out instead of just the screw. The other, the tilt lock and forward lock seem to be getting stuck so I can't disable the lock. That same one might need a new piston too, it seems slightly wobbly.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

My Ikea Markus arrived finally and I'm pleased. Thanks fuckers. My old chair couldn't go high enough for the proper angle for my arms but this one is fine. HIGH BACK 4 LYFE

Budgie
Mar 9, 2007
Yeah, like the bird.

Spyde posted:

Don't casters eventually cause visible wear on most medium pile/residential carpets? This is why I've always used chair mats at home.

Yes and they destroy whatever underlay you have beneath the carpet too as I saw when I replaced the carpet in my computer room. Hopefully the hard plastic chair mat thing I got from IKEA will prevent the same thing happening again.

Flying Spaghetti
Dec 1, 2002

Existence is overrated

Budgie posted:

Yes and they destroy whatever underlay you have beneath the carpet too as I saw when I replaced the carpet in my computer room. Hopefully the hard plastic chair mat thing I got from IKEA will prevent the same thing happening again.

My wife use to work from home. In a chair, 8 hours a day, in a carpeted office. We went through a lot of chair mats, never found a great solution. The plastic ones, no matter how thick, eventually became brittle and cracked. The chair wheels will rub a fine dust of plastic off the mat that gets in the carpet around the edges of the mat. This dust seemed to permanently discolor the carpet and could not be vacuumed or cleaned out. In general the mat will protect the carpet under it but the carpet around it will still wear normally. When you go to move the mat, you now have this square of perfect carpet that really stands out and looks bad. The longest lasting solution we found was a bamboo mat. It held up much longer than the plastic ones and didn't leave the plastic dust in the carpet. Personally though, I hate all mats, and will be putting solid flooring in all future office spaces.

Bamboo mat example:
https://www.amazon.com/Anji-Mountai...amboo+chair+mat

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

Flying Spaghetti posted:

My wife use to work from home. In a chair, 8 hours a day, in a carpeted office. We went through a lot of chair mats, never found a great solution. The plastic ones, no matter how thick, eventually became brittle and cracked. The chair wheels will rub a fine dust of plastic off the mat that gets in the carpet around the edges of the mat. This dust seemed to permanently discolor the carpet and could not be vacuumed or cleaned out. In general the mat will protect the carpet under it but the carpet around it will still wear normally. When you go to move the mat, you now have this square of perfect carpet that really stands out and looks bad. The longest lasting solution we found was a bamboo mat. It held up much longer than the plastic ones and didn't leave the plastic dust in the carpet. Personally though, I hate all mats, and will be putting solid flooring in all future office spaces.

Bamboo mat example:
https://www.amazon.com/Anji-Mountai...amboo+chair+mat

is there oen of these that isn't a billion dollars

Flying Spaghetti
Dec 1, 2002

Existence is overrated

Wowporn posted:

is there oen of these that isn't a billion dollars

That's around what we paid. We might have paid a little less. It still started breaking within a couple of years use. Cheaper in the long run to just put in some laminate flooring and be done with it. Keep in mind our experience was with an office used heavily every day.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Cat Hatter posted:

I have a friend who really likes the rollerblade casters he got for his chair (something like these: http://a.co/6svIiwI). He uses it on hardwood, but the diameter is big enough that I'd imagine it would work well on carpet too.

These look like a great find, I can't believe I'm just learning about them now! I have a set on order for delivery tomorrow! I'm putting them on my Leap, which should raise it by an inch or so. I use it on carpeting with a decent pile, and I've been wondering if my piston is sinking or is this just normal:



That's not a great photo, and I'm not sure how to capture a better image that properly illustrates how it's rubbing on the carpeting. I tried searching for other photos, and found the following:



Most of the photos I found of the Leap are like the first one in that image, where one of the legs is positioned directly in front of the center, but the other two do show the protrusion from the piston, albeit on a hard surface. I think this means my piston is within a normal range, or may be sinking a little, but I'm not sure what I can do about it aside from installing those higher castors and/or getting a mat.

LUBE UP YOUR BUTT
Jun 30, 2008

Atomizer posted:

These look like a great find, I can't believe I'm just learning about them now! I have a set on order for delivery tomorrow! I'm putting them on my Leap, which should raise it by an inch or so. I use it on carpeting with a decent pile, and I've been wondering if my piston is sinking or is this just normal:



That's not a great photo, and I'm not sure how to capture a better image that properly illustrates how it's rubbing on the carpeting. I tried searching for other photos, and found the following:



Most of the photos I found of the Leap are like the first one in that image, where one of the legs is positioned directly in front of the center, but the other two do show the protrusion from the piston, albeit on a hard surface. I think this means my piston is within a normal range, or may be sinking a little, but I'm not sure what I can do about it aside from installing those higher castors and/or getting a mat.

The legs are basically this starfish shaped piece of plastic with a hole in the middle that the piston sits in and is held in there just with friction.. if you happen to have two movable objects that are high enough you can just flip the chair over, suspend it by the legs and use a mallet to whack the piston out. Then fold a piece of paper (or cardboard or something) and wedge it between the piston and legs when you put it in again so it sits a little higher.. I haven't tried it (nothing that I can suspend the chair between) but it should work

Tornhelm
Jul 26, 2008

Atomizer posted:

These look like a great find, I can't believe I'm just learning about them now! I have a set on order for delivery tomorrow! I'm putting them on my Leap, which should raise it by an inch or so. I use it on carpeting with a decent pile, and I've been wondering if my piston is sinking or is this just normal:



That's not a great photo, and I'm not sure how to capture a better image that properly illustrates how it's rubbing on the carpeting. I tried searching for other photos, and found the following:



Most of the photos I found of the Leap are like the first one in that image, where one of the legs is positioned directly in front of the center, but the other two do show the protrusion from the piston, albeit on a hard surface. I think this means my piston is within a normal range, or may be sinking a little, but I'm not sure what I can do about it aside from installing those higher castors and/or getting a mat.

Are you using the original wheels/piston on it? The only time I've had that happen on a chair is when I replaced my wheels with glides or tiny wheels.

Rabid Snake
Aug 6, 2004



Atomizer posted:

These look like a great find, I can't believe I'm just learning about them now! I have a set on order for delivery tomorrow! I'm putting them on my Leap, which should raise it by an inch or so. I use it on carpeting with a decent pile, and I've been wondering if my piston is sinking or is this just normal:



That's not a great photo, and I'm not sure how to capture a better image that properly illustrates how it's rubbing on the carpeting. I tried searching for other photos, and found the following:



Most of the photos I found of the Leap are like the first one in that image, where one of the legs is positioned directly in front of the center, but the other two do show the protrusion from the piston, albeit on a hard surface. I think this means my piston is within a normal range, or may be sinking a little, but I'm not sure what I can do about it aside from installing those higher castors and/or getting a mat.

My older 2009 Leap v2 doesn't have its piston touching the floor but it is pretty low.

That looks lower then it should be.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Any advise on getting the casters off of a Leap (circa 2000)? The wheels pop off easy but the stems are stuck in good.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



LUBE UP YOUR BUTT posted:

The legs are basically this starfish shaped piece of plastic with a hole in the middle that the piston sits in and is held in there just with friction.. if you happen to have two movable objects that are high enough you can just flip the chair over, suspend it by the legs and use a mallet to whack the piston out. Then fold a piece of paper (or cardboard or something) and wedge it between the piston and legs when you put it in again so it sits a little higher.. I haven't tried it (nothing that I can suspend the chair between) but it should work

I get what you're suggesting, although I can't quite suspend the chair like that; I should be able to do the same thing though by putting it on its side, which I'll have to do anyway when I swap the casters.

Tornhelm posted:

Are you using the original wheels/piston on it? The only time I've had that happen on a chair is when I replaced my wheels with glides or tiny wheels.

The chair has all OEM parts AFAIK; I bought it like this, used, and I have no reason to believe that's not the original piston and casters (which, again, I am going to replace shortly.)

Rabid Snake posted:

My older 2009 Leap v2 doesn't have its piston touching the floor but it is pretty low.

That looks lower then it should be.

Yeah, it definitely seemed very low before I saw those photos, although now I see they're kind of built like this. At best, it's probably slipping a little. It's hard to tell on the carpeting, though, since it's not a uniform surface.

dupersaurus posted:

Any advise on getting the casters off of a Leap (circa 2000)? The wheels pop off easy but the stems are stuck in good.

Wait, what problem are you having? Before I ordered those rollerblade casters I reached underneath to see how hard it would be to remove them and the first caster I grabbed came right out with a modest amount of force. This is a Leap V2 if that makes any difference.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Atomizer posted:

Wait, what problem are you having? Before I ordered those rollerblade casters I reached underneath to see how hard it would be to remove them and the first caster I grabbed came right out with a modest amount of force. This is a Leap V2 if that makes any difference.

The wheel assembly comes off easy, but it leaves behind the metal stem. I can't tell if I just need to find a way to get more leverage, or if they're not supposed to come out.

Edit: nvm just needed more leverage

dupersaurus fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Jan 14, 2017

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



dupersaurus posted:

The wheel assembly comes off easy, but it leaves behind the metal stem. I can't tell if I just need to find a way to get more leverage, or if they're not supposed to come out.

Edit: nvm just needed more leverage

Yeah, the stem is supposed to remain with the caster itself, it sounds like the stem is slipping out for some reason. I would've suggested pliers if you hadn't found a way around that problem. I swapped out my casters with the new ones today, and all 5 were done in just a few minutes. I could've done it even faster with a spare hand and/or more room and a better place to work on the chair, but the main issue was the grease on the stems, which got all loving over my hands. :(

The rollerblade wheels are very nice; they went on easiliy as mentioned, seem to move well enough, and most importantly add about an inch of height. This lifts the center post well off the carpet. I tried hitting that post with a mallet when the chair was on its side, but all I succeeded in doing is causing the casters to fall out. :v: So I couldn't really do anything about the piston-potentially-slipping issue, but I've gotten around it now.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I've had luck removing the stems with a claw hammer before, levering it against the spokes on the chair base.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Thanks Ants posted:

I've had luck removing the stems with a claw hammer before, levering it against the spokes on the chair base.

Just what I ended up doing

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
I had the same problem with my leaf center post and that's primarily why I bought the mega-casters in the first place.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
Does anyone in here have either of these chairs? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008OTSHSQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XBC3BF0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Looking to get a new chair because the one that I have is basically just me sitting on a piece of wood that reclines.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

Luna Was Here posted:

Does anyone in here have either of these chairs? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008OTSHSQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XBC3BF0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Looking to get a new chair because the one that I have is basically just me sitting on a piece of wood that reclines.

How many hours a day/days a week are you going to be spending in said chair? Something like that most likely isn't going to put up with the abuse of sitting in it 40+ hours a week.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

Moey posted:

How many hours a day/days a week are you going to be spending in said chair? Something like that most likely isn't going to put up with the abuse of sitting in it 40+ hours a week.

im a ~gamer~ so a fair amount of time is going to be spent in the chair. I'm looking for something that will be better than the PoS i have right now but I'd rather not dip into $300+ chairs. I think at most I'd be willing to spend $200 but that's a hard maybe.

Etrips
Nov 9, 2004

Having Teemo Problems?
I Feel Bad For You, Son.
I Got 99 Shrooms
And You Just Hit One.
Just get an Ikea Markus and savor the 10 year warranty.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Luna Was Here posted:

Does anyone in here have either of these chairs? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008OTSHSQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XBC3BF0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Looking to get a new chair because the one that I have is basically just me sitting on a piece of wood that reclines.

FWIW the fixed armrests on the AmazonBasics one would be a dealbreaker for me, both due to the lack of adjustability and the fact that they'd prevent me from moving it all the way up to the desk/keyboard tray.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

Etrips posted:

Just get an Ikea Markus and savor the 10 year warranty.

do the arms on the Markus allow me to scoot up to my desk real close like or are they gonna hit the desk well before i will

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isndl
May 2, 2012
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Markus arms are non-adjustable and so it would depend on your preferred chair height. You could elect to not attach them, since it's Ikea and you're going to be assembling the chair yourself.

When I was using a Markus my setup allowed me to slide the chair under the desk with the arms attached, but it's going to come down to your individual preferences in the end. I know it's common for people to deliberately adjust the armrests to be level with their desktop.

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