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Metapod posted:The gently caress is this bullshit Durant is absolutely a great playmaker Goddamit I didn't say KD was not a playmaker we are way off track here People were saying that Draymond didn't belong in the ASG and stole Gobert's spot. I responded that Hayward was the least deserving all-star pick on the west team, not Draymond. People countered that Hayward belonged there because he is a great playmaker as well as a scorer. I'm not saying Hayward sucks, but I'm saying that he is not a standout as a playmaker at the NBA level, because if he is, there are like 75 great playmakers in the NBA. His playmaking doesn't set him apart. Gobert should be in New Orleans instead of Hayward. If Gobert can't play, KAT should be there instead of Hayward. After that, Lamarcus Aldridge maybe should be there instead of Hayward (maybe not, not sure). Moreover, Chris Paul, CJ McCollum and Mike Conley should be there instead of Klay, for similar reasons. On the other hand, Draymond should be there because he belongs there. 
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Dejan Bimble posted:I like the Kevin Durant passes that are really handoffs because his arms are so freakishly long
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Jan 28, 2017 01:01
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I'm glad Marc made it and I don't even care who knows it
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Jan 28, 2017 01:02
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straight up brolic posted:Bill Simmons legitimately thinks that Jamal Crawford is better than Austin Rivers Bill Simmons thinks Bill Russell was better than Wilt Bill Simmons is always wrong
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Jan 28, 2017 01:03
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quote:and the Celtics float them a couple of their good picks that are not the Brooklyn picks
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Dejan Bimble posted:I'm sorry to dogpile on you, but that is the opposite of Gordon Hayward's game. He's good because he can do everything on offense, in fact a more accurate insult would be jack of all trades, master of none. He can catch t he ball and attack the rim, he can make jumpers from the elbows and three point line, he has some tricky floaters and step backs, he passes well and can run either side of the pnr. He's not great beyond compare at any of those things, but his versatility has helped keep Utah afloat while their team boat was filled with the holes what we call injuries Hey, dogpile away, I'm starting to like it  Actually, this thread has given me greater respect for Hayward already. I had no idea his TS% was as high as it is. Draymond still belongs in New Orleans ( until the end of time )
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Jan 28, 2017 01:08
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predicto posted:Goddamit I didn't say KD was not a playmaker we are way off track here
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Jan 28, 2017 01:11
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Brad Stevens owes his whole career to shelvin Mack and Haywood
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Jan 28, 2017 01:12
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predicto posted:counterpoint - 7.5 assists per game (8th in the league) and a 3.3 assist/turnover ratio for a defensive stopper. I'm a bigger Draymond fan than most in this forum, but generating assists as a facilitator on a team with Curry, Durant, and Thompson is not some herculean feat. He's going to be one of top assist guys just by virtue of handling the ball a lot on a team with those shooters
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Jan 28, 2017 01:21
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straight up brolic posted:No, you said he was a one trick pony, which he is absolutely not. He is a good passer, versatile defender, one of the 10 best scorers in the NBA, and not a very good rebounder. He's not a player that should be in the all-star game on the merit of playmaking, but he is a good playmaker who can create shots for himself and others and it is an important facet of his game. He's better than Gasol, KAT, and Klay by like almost any all in one metric. He shouldn't be on the chopping block. Fair enough, I am getting edumacated here. I'm not sure I quite buy Top 10 scorer in the NBA yet, but I have much more respect for him than before. I agree Hayward is better than Klay by all in one metrics. I likewise will continue to assert that Draymond is better than Hayward by all in one metrics.
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Jan 28, 2017 01:25
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We live and we learn. Except Marc rules
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Jan 28, 2017 01:28
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 Athanatos posted:Just get rid of positions and take the best players; if your all star roster is all guards, then so be it. The ASG has effectively turned into a 3P exhibition. Only let in 40%+ 3P guys IMO. Lockback posted:Durant is a super efficient scorer, he should try to score. On a per minute basis Durant has become the supreme scorer in NBA history. Surpassing even Adrian Dantley.
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predicto posted:Fair enough, I am getting edumacated here. I'm not sure I quite buy Top 10 scorer in the NBA yet, but I have much more respect for him than before.
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How can the Bulls not fire John Paxson and Gar Forman after all this? http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/ct-bulls-changes-john-paxson-gar-forman-rosenbloom-20170127-column.html straight up brolic posted:even in 25mpg Embiid is averaging 20ppg, 8 reb, and 2.5 blocks on 58TS% with 36%USG, run that through your computer pipe and smoke it through a series of tubes. The Glumslinger posted:I mean, Embiid is only a year younger than Anthony Davis, he is very impressive for a rookie, but he is old as hell for a rookie Cumulative stats are superior to per game stats. Per game stats are misleading especially as minutes are lowered. He's not even playing enough minutes to qualify for the stat leaderboard. I think he's doing fine but he's getting major hype. Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Embiid is already better than Paul Millsap despite the limited minutes, so In some ways yes, but he's already had to miss 1/3rd of his games in very limited minutes. If he was on the Bulls I wouldn't even want him playing in an exhibition. Let's not forget what happened to Paul George. Last thing anybody wants is some guy who's not 100% to start showboating in front of his peers and turn into a hot dog and injure himself. Cool Buff Man posted:Woj confirmed Kanter broke his forearm. What a dipshit. Doing it on live TV. Very embarrassing!
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Zogo posted:
Aw hell yeah we need a per game stat defender to get in the mf thunderdome with zogobot
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Papercut posted:I'm a bigger Draymond fan than most in this forum, but generating assists as a facilitator on a team with Curry, Durant, and Thompson is not some herculean feat. He's going to be one of top assist guys just by virtue of handling the ball a lot on a team with those shooters Draymond didn't have Durant on the team last year, and finished 7th in the NBA in assists per game, behind 6 point guards. He also was 13th in rebounds, arguably the best defender or at least top 2, and led the league in testicles kicked. Dray's the whole package, and he would score more on another team that didn't have all those other shooters. Maybe not quite as much as Hayward scores, but quite a bit more than he does now.
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NickRoweFillea posted:Aw hell yeah we need a per game stat defender to get in the mf thunderdome with zogobot let me travel back in time and find some bulls fans citing the per of tyrus thomas
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predicto posted:Draymond didn't have Durant on the team last year, and finished 7th in the NBA in assists per game, behind 6 point guards. He also was 13th in rebounds, arguably the best defender or at least top 2, and led the league in testicles kicked. What does this have to do with what he's doing this year?
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the hardest moment of a parent's life is when he has to trade his son away to the new york knickerbockers http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18568627/los-angeles-clippers-son-austin-rivers-table-trade-doc-rivers-says
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NickRoweFillea posted:We live and we learn. Except Marc rules It's pretty cool
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chunkles posted:the hardest moment of a parent's life is when he has to trade his son away to the new york knickerbockers You'd think Doc would be glad for an excuse not to talk to him for another few years
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I'm still living in the alternate reality where the Spurs got Marc instead of LMA In that world I have shot myself in the head with the Albert-01R, the powerful pistol you unlock after beating Resident Evil VII biohazard for the first time
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Spacebump posted:Pierre Jackson got injured last night and was on his second 10 day contract with the Mavs. I wish that didn't happen. I wanted them to sign him long term. Today they signed someone named Yogi Ferrell in his place. Really disappointed in this turn of events. The Cavs should sign Jackson once he is healthy, he is an underrated playmaker. Pierre Jackson is cool and I was always rooting for him but he just can not stay healthy and his injuries keep coming at the worst times.
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euphronius posted:Brad Stevens owes his whole career to shelvin Mack and Haywood Lmao yeah okay.
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Papercut posted:What does this have to do with what he's doing this year? Papercut said Draymond was just getting easy assists because of Durant, Curry and Klay. I was pointing out that he got terrific assist numbers last year, before Durant. The fact is, the Warriors offense runs through Draymond. When he is out, it becomes a lot more conventional, with post ups by Sean Livingston, more isos and more simple drive and kicks. It is silly to try to downplay his passing ability. He's the best passing big man in the league outside Lebron.
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Cool Buff Man posted:You'd think Doc would be glad for an excuse not to talk to him for another few years 
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Hahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhh I'm on my phone squinting like "Is that a Dutch name? Mongolian? African?"
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why not fix the real problem http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gpjv89b
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The real reason that Hayward doesn't belong in the all star game is because he has Richard Spencer's neonazi haircut
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Jan 28, 2017 02:58
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Hayward deserves his spot by dint of being insanely handsome. And also by being pretty good at basketball things.
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predicto posted:The real reason that Hayward doesn't belong in the all star game is because he has Richard Spencer's neonazi haircut More like Richard Spencer has Hayward's cool haircut.
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Jan 28, 2017 03:01
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Gordong Bombay is the most handsome NBA player ever -- white man division
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White LeBron
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Can I admit something? Sometimes I have confused Hayward with Jimmer in my mind, and this has sometimes caused me to underrate Hayward.
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Kibner posted:Just heard on some national ESPN show that there was a rumor during Butler's original contract extension negotiations, the Bulls front office threatened to have him either accept his four-year-$44MM contract or they will have Tony Snell take his minutes to depress his numbers so that he won't get anything better in free agency the next year. Thibs then said gently caress that noise and that he would play Butler over Snell regardless. Wouldn't surprise me. The story with Deng was they called him up to the office without his agent, put a 3-year $30 million contract in front of him, and said he had to sign it before he left the room or they were trading him. When he said no they put out a BS story claiming Deng was demanding $15 million a year.
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Noctone posted:I hope the Bulls never win anything of consequence ever again. don't worry
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