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yippee cahier posted:New Zealand has proportional Maori representation, country doesn't appear to be a failed state or an example of apartheid. Any real reason it couldn't work here? Aren't they also ridiculously racist and with similar problems around indigenous populations being overly represented in terms of poverty, alcohol abuse, etc?
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Skippy Granola posted:OK but America shows all the hallmarks of a fascist state so Mulcair isn't wrong. By this standard practically every country ever prior to the 1960s, and quite a few countries today, would be considered fascist.
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Helsing posted:By this standard practically every country ever prior to the 1960s, and quite a few countries today, would be considered fascist. Is that your way of endorsing the standard?
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I think it's a mistake for Beardo to call Trump a fascist. It might play well with his base, maybe, but for everyone else the conversation will end up being a discussion of what constitutes fascism rather than a focus on Mulcair's criticism of the actual policies of Trump and Trudeau's handling of it.
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Jordan7hm posted:Aren't they also ridiculously racist and with similar problems around indigenous populations being overly represented in terms of poverty, alcohol abuse, etc? Yes. I'm a NZ  dual citizen and I'd still give Canada the edge on blatant racism but New Zealanders really aren't THAT much better. New Zealand doesn't have the same level of problems with remote communities with unsafe water etc but in terms of all the bad statistics you mention Maori are way over represented.
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Jordan7hm posted:Aren't they also ridiculously racist and with similar problems around indigenous populations being overly represented in terms of poverty, alcohol abuse, etc? Yes, those problems still exist in NZ, but they are not as drastic or extreme as Canada. We're a lot more racist and we gently caress over our First Nations a LOT more.
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Helsing posted:By this standard practically every country ever prior to the 1960s, and quite a few countries today, would be considered fascist. You can prove anything if you carefully cherry pick the criteria! The joke is Mulcair is a dope
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He's that AI in civ that constantly Denounces you for this or that reason but you have a way bigger and more powerful civ than him so he's basically begging you to swarm him and erase him from the game
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Tump is a fascist, but Margaret Thatcher "flies on wings of liberty"
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Hey, it might well turn out that Thatcher is a much better leader than Trump. It's not a pleasant thought, but it's well within the realm of the possible judging by Cheeto MacFuck's first week in office.
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Mulcair is 100% right, but at the same time, if he were PM, he'd be cozying up too.
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I just sent him an email. Subject: Calling Donald Trump a Fascist Body: Hell Yeah
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Skippy Granola posted:OK but America shows all the hallmarks of a fascist state so Mulcair isn't wrong. NO BRAKES is also a clear dog whistle to making the trains run on time.
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Just because he's not wrong doesn't mean it's something that someone in his position (i.e. a potential Prime Minister) should actually say. I mean, the Scottish comedian that held the "Trump is a oval office" sign was right too, but that doesn't mean someone in the position to eventually have to negotiate with that orange oaf should actually say it.
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PT6A posted:Just because he's not wrong doesn't mean it's something that someone in his position (i.e. a potential Prime Minister) should actually say. Mulcair is the perfect person to say it actually. He is not a potential PM.
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Mulcair only likes respectable hard right tyrants like Thatcher, not silly crass orange ones.
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Pop-o-Matic Trouble posted:Mulcair is 100% right, but at the same time, if he were PM, he'd be cozying up too. It would be hard to find a leader that wouldn't, Trump's crazy and he really could crush Canada economically if he wanted.
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TheKingofSprings posted:It would be hard to find a leader that wouldn't, Trump's crazy and he really could crush Canada economically if he wanted. I'm more worried about him doing it by accident. His schtick seems to be 10% effect, 90% side-effect.
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PT6A posted:Hey, it might well turn out that Thatcher is a much better leader than Trump. It's not a pleasant thought, but it's well within the realm of the possible judging by Cheeto MacFuck's first week in office.
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Jordan7hm posted:Mulcair is the perfect person to say it actually. He is not a potential PM. Hey, JT could call a snap election before October.
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Give the man a thousand tries and you'll see a thousand failures. Works for both Trump and Mulcair... ooh, meta.
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PT6A posted:Just because he's not wrong doesn't mean it's something that someone in his position (i.e. a potential Prime Minister) should actually say. Was thinking along the same lines. If Mulcair is ever PM (lol) I don't think the spiteful thin skinned baby man would look very favourably on that. We are probably going to get hosed on trade and whatnot as it is. No need to personally offend the guy and make it worse. Kiss that saggy orange rear end and hope his wrath passes by us without notice like hobbits beneath the Eye of Sauron.
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James Baud posted:I like how nobody even entertains the notion that the Trump presidency could end up being fairly successful... not even as a contingency. Why the gently caress would anything nice ever happen TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Jan 28, 2017 |
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James Baud posted:I like how nobody even entertains the notion that the Trump presidency could end up being fairly successful... not even as a contingency. How are we defining "success" in this case?
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The Butcher posted:Was thinking along the same lines. Sure, appeasement to maintain peace has a pretty strong historical record after all.
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Helsing posted:How are we defining "success" in this case?
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flakeloaf posted:Some things remain that aren't both upside down and on fire. The living are only covetous of the dead.
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MA-Horus posted:Who was the poster who came up with the idea of giving the First Nations their own MPs?
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The trump presidency is going to be a Naomi Klein macroeconomic wet dream
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Helsing posted:How are we defining "success" in this case? Economically. As awful as he is, he is driving confidence into the us market. Cheeto dust man seems to drive us equity returns, you should've already rebalanced heavily in favour of the us market because at this point that is the only certain thing.
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Part of the reason I'm trying to start a produce farm here in my city is mostly to hopefully help buffer the area from food supply issues. Trump killing NAFTA is another good reason why each city should have hydroponic farms already.
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Well, HMV is dead http://www.citynews.ca/2017/01/27/struggling-hmv-canada-set-close-102-stores/ Trudeau couldn't even save our once-thriving CD selling business. Now how will you quickly get to the second floor of west edmonton mall if you come in from the west entrance? You'll have to walk all the way over to the escalator by the food court, or even worse, park on the top floor of the parking garage. Another blatant attack on northern Alberta from this Trudeau government and it won't be forgotten come election time. Also, The Ocean Man pipeline break is turning into a hilarious shitshow. The reserve is complaining and protesting about more pipeline consultations being held with first nations, except that pipeline was there 20 years before the reservation was. It has also never been inspected by the government because in Saskatchewan, being less than 15km it was exempt from licensing, and they leave inspections of unlicensed pipelines up to the owners. A 200,000 liter spill might be worth it if it means inspecting hundreds, or maybe thousands of 50 year old pipelines even as a knee jerk reaction.
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infernal machines posted:Sure, appeasement to maintain peace has a pretty strong historical record after all. This time the villains already start with the most powerful military and economy so if poo poo ever went full  again we would probably be better off as spineless bootlicker client state than the alternatives.
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Oh yeah and how many varieties of dirt are you farming
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The Butcher posted:This time the villains already start with the most powerful military and economy so if poo poo ever went full In today's very special episode, Canada plays the role of Poland, circa 1939.
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infernal machines posted:In today's very special episode, Canada plays the role of Poland, circa 1939. We're Austria
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