Nibbles! posted:

Can guarantee the next Vic state election will be nothing but tough on crime.

adamantium|wang posted:

https://twitter.com/SatPaper/status/825097372363550720

Bye Soapy.

quote:

Turnbull’s speech this week will emphasise moves to cut business tax and push on with stalled legislation for childcare assistance.

{guess the reasons why stalled}

Also high on the priority list will be a proposed restructuring of schools funding and, with it, an overhaul of teaching standards to ensure that money spent is achieving results in education.

{this is code for a teacher rating algorithm that will shift the responsibility away from humans and degrades the public system to the benefit of the private system}

And in line with Treasurer Scott Morrison’s visit to Britain last week to examine moves to lower housing costs, the government is expected to bring forward a package of measures, possibly before the May budget, to address housing affordability and encourage the states and territories to take steps of their own.

{more blameshifting}

Higsian posted:

Michaelia Cash's voice and mannerisms make her seem like a character she'd pull out whenever she's playing a useless administrator on a sketch show.

Ten Becquerels posted:

The guy who used to drive my school bus is running in the WA state election as a One Nation candidate. Small world.

No real chance he'll win since Kimberley has been Labor-held since 1980, and the three people in the seat since then are all Aboriginal - Ernie Bridge, Carol Martin and Josie Farrer - and bus driver man is white as all hell. Warren Greatorex is running for the Libs though, and if anyone's going to take the seat from Labor it'll probably be him. If he wins he'll be the first Aboriginal Liberal state MP, seems like an alright guy but the whole thing smacks of him being used as a prop because the Libs can't get any traction among Aboriginal people. He might even win, a lot of people are unhappy about how the region and remote communities in particular get ignored by government.

quote:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ec8d759bc392b83
Former prime minister Tony Abbott has called for resolute action to break the protracted crisis in Australia’s national parliament by urging the Turnbull government to hold a constitutional referendum to enable governments to govern.

Warning that Australia is now mired in gridlock that destroys any chance of effective government, Mr Abbott says Australia “increasingly resembles Italy”, facing chronic changes of prime minister and an inability to get things done.

In a speech to be delivered in the next few days, Mr Abbott will say Australians must confront yet again the kind of country they want. He nails the public’s disenchantment with politics, saying our democracy is now run by the perverse practice of politicians seeking election on an agenda and being denied the right to implement that agenda in ­office.

“Over time the Senate has ceased being a house of review and become a house of rejection,” Mr Abbott said. “The result is gridlock, not government, and it has to change. In the end, the government of the day has to be allowed to govern — and not with one hand tied behind its back because its legislation can’t pass.”

Referring to the Turnbull government’s Australian Building and Construction Commission legislation for a tough cop on the beat for the construction industry — Coalition policy at both the 2013 and 2016 elections — Mr Abbott said despite this “double mandate” the Senate “still amended it almost to the point of futility”. He calls for a referendum to enable a joint sitting of both houses to pass deadlocked bills without the need for a ­double-dissolution election.

Although a significant constitutional change, the Abbott proposal preserves the current parliamentary framework. It seeks a more speedy and effective means of resolving deadlocks between the houses. His proposal still means a government would need a significant majority in the House of Representatives to pass bills at a joint sitting.

Mr Abbott recommends the proposal be considered as a referendum at the next general election. However, it is unlikely Malcolm Turnbull would be interested, since his tactic since the July 2016 election has been to work with the Senate.

Mr Abbott argues the paralysis in parliament has a direct effect on the prime minister. Drawing on his own fate, he says if a prime minister cannot secure his agenda, there can be “no expectation” such a prime minister will survive.

The Abbott proposal is based on a Howard government discussion paper from 2003 looking at how to resolve this pivotal flaw in Australia’s parliamentary system. That paper said the existing voting arrangements meant the “Senate holds effective control over the legislative and policy agenda upon which the government of the day has been elected.”

Mr Abbott endorses the conclusion of the discussion paper, that “the minority has assumed a permanent and absolute veto over the majority”.

The situation is far worse than it was under the Howard government. The dilemma is that the public, disillusioned with the major parties, votes for minor parties in the Senate — but these have little interest in the government’s agenda, leaving government legislative programs seriously weakened or defeated.

However, as Mr Abbott concedes, this is more a problem for the Coalition than Labor which, when in office working with the Greens, has a better chance of securing its parliamentary agenda. The Coalition agenda is more likely to be unpopular, based on less spending, and appeal less to the Senate crossbench.

Synthbuttrange posted:

US refugee resettlement deal likely dead
Visa wavier program also likely dead

What else did you have Turnbull?

Synthbuttrange posted:

US refugee resettlement deal likely dead
Visa wavier program also likely dead

What else did you have Turnbull?

open24hours posted:

Abbott

ewe2 posted:

If I'm hearing correctly, the US has just shut the doors on any Muslim, even those with Green cards. And Tony Abbott thinks he can "reform" government. That's what you get when "government gets to govern".

Gorilla Salad posted:

So, this would make Federal Parliament effectively act like Queensland's unicameral system?

Gorilla Salad posted:

I've read this in two different threads now, so I went and checked the news and I'm still having a difficult time believing I'm seeing this actually happen.

open24hours posted:

quote:

I also love the DHS press release titled 'Let's talk about facts'. So yes, we would love to talk about some facts, please do tell us: What is the dispute ratio of the $300m of "identified" debt? Not appeal, dispute/review ratio.

80.87 percent. Official.

How much of the $300m has actually been recovered, in the DHS bank account?

less than 7 Million. as of friday.

What percentage of originally calculated debts have since been altered?

78 percent of all original debt's have been remalcomated

How much has been spent administering the system including disputes, appeals, etc. in man-hours/expenses? Millions.

It costs about 100 -250 dollars in man hour just to review one file and that's only if it take one day if it's weeks ur in the thousands just for one file.

How many people have threatened self-harm as a result of these measures?

A guy at the temora centrelink office walked in and was threating to slit his wrists as he could not handle the pressure. There has been several other incidents like this we may have already had deaths any.

What percentage of raised debts have been wiped entirely?

Very Few. VERY FEW AT ALL.. Most of the memos floating around in senior dept's are saying not to forgive all of the debt. i know of ppl that have had a debt reduced from hundreds down to 5 dollars just so they can legally say well the systems not broken it's collecting debts.

What percentage of debts have resulted in underpayments?

Can't answer this i don't have this data.

If employees said it was never going to work, why was it rolled out anyway?

Cause gently caress you. And gently caress u for not doing as ur told. get back to work pleb. loving WHIP And they needed to add the 300 million to the May budget line. No less than 87 objections where raised by Front line managment before the rollout... Not one ounce of fucks was given...Literally...i was there for this.. they laughed it off..

Why is DHS still talking about the technicality of 'debt letters' vs. 'notices' when it's largely irrelevant? Denying legal culpability. That hole is way to deep now. Is DHS anticipating a class-action lawsuit? Is it budgeted for?

Yes,They know the law suits are coming. There is a strategy meeting planed for friday to discuss funding preparations and winding in DPP to the meetings to prepare.. this pissed me off when they announced that.. i was like...So instead of fixing the issue. ur gonna pull a VW and fight ppl on it..Well done cunts

How much are the collection agencies making from the automated system?

10 percent fee. plus 15 percent commission Officially

Why didn't Tudge know about the 10% penalty fee when it was on the first letter sent to people?

He was not briefed on it at the time. As the PR dept that they selected from the Victorian liberal offices deemed it irrelevant at the time. Tudge has been pushed under the bus here.

Does the Government believe that the AAA credit rating rests on the fate of the fanciful $4b from these measures?

No,But it was counting on it to pad out the budget. Now they know the game is up they have commenced reviews of other welfare outpayments. Such as the NDIS. as they know they can gut that with mininmal fallout. and take the funding from that and add it to the budget.

SORRY IT LOOKS LIKE poo poo I DID NOT KNOW HOW TO REPLY TO THE QUESTIONS properly
Well Im sorry.

I must apologize everyone my figures on how much has been clawed back is incorrect. Sorry. Let me correct it right now. It's 7,317,912 Dollars. Unlike the govt i give correct stats

ewe2 posted:

I've read some amazing tweets about itm, eg

https://twitter.com/aayoub/status/825136159990886400

But if you think that's crazy, California might secede.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

So that Referendum would first have to pass the Senate right?

ewe2 posted:

Annnn speaking of unbelievable poo poo, reddit AMA with Centrelink staff about the #notmydebt just blew up:

quote:

“Over time the Senate has ceased being a house of review and become a house of rejection,” Mr Abbott said

quote:

Section 53 of the Australian Constitution:

..........Except as provided in this section, the Senate shall have equal power with the House of Representatives in respect of all proposed laws.

ewe2 posted:

Annnn speaking of unbelievable poo poo, reddit AMA with Centrelink staff about the #notmydebt just blew up:


There's another sub where the conversation continues because the informant was getting posts deleted in /r/Australia.

Some pretty frightening stuff if this guy is to be believed.

Asher Wolf is tweeting pix of all this from here just follow the thread.

ewe2 posted:

Annnn speaking of unbelievable poo poo, reddit AMA with Centrelink staff about the #notmydebt just blew up:


There's another sub where the conversation continues because the informant was getting posts deleted in /r/Australia.

Some pretty frightening stuff if this guy is to be believed.

Asher Wolf is tweeting pix of all this from here just follow the thread.

quote:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-29/turnbull-and-trump-talk-about-refugee-resettlement-deal/8220824
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and US President Donald Trump emphasised the "enduring strength and closeness" of the US-Australia relationship in a 25-minute phone call, the White House says.

The phone call came just a day after Mr Trump signed an executive order suspending his country's refugee program, throwing doubt on Australia's refugee resettlement deal with the US.

"Both leaders emphasised the enduring strength and closeness of the US-Australia relationship that is critical for peace, stability and prosperity in the Asia-Pacific region and globally," the White House said in a statement.

The leaders had been expected to discuss the refugee resettlement deal, in which some refugees on Manus Island or Nauru would be resettled in the US instead of Australia.

The White House statement made no mention of the issue.

Mr Turnbull's office has released no further details about the phone call.

Before the call, Mr Turnbull said there is a section in Mr Trump's executive order which states officials can still admit refugees under pre-existing international agreements.

The ABC understands that section was included in the final version of the executive order after the Prime Minister's office intervened.

"We are very confident and satisfied that existing arrangements will continue," Mr Turnbull said before the call.

"It's quite clear that the administration has set out in the order the ability to deal with existing arrangements."

Earlier this week senior government sources said they were confident the orders will not impact the deal to resettle refugees currently on Manus Island and Nauru, entered into late last year with former president Barack Obama.

Authorities had hoped to begin moving people to the US at the start of this year.

Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce said it would not be the end of the world if the deal did not go ahead.

When asked by Sydney radio station 2GB if the deal would proceed, Mr Joyce responded: "Let's see."

"I hope that this, which has been well planned and well thought out, goes forward," he said.

The US President has also spoken with Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel today.

Ten Becquerels posted:

The guy who used to drive my school bus is running in the WA state election as a One Nation candidate. Small world.

No real chance he'll win since Kimberley has been Labor-held since 1980, and the three people in the seat since then are all Aboriginal - Ernie Bridge, Carol Martin and Josie Farrer - and bus driver man is white as all hell. Warren Greatorex is running for the Libs though, and if anyone's going to take the seat from Labor it'll probably be him. If he wins he'll be the first Aboriginal Liberal state MP, seems like an alright guy but the whole thing smacks of him being used as a prop because the Libs can't get any traction among Aboriginal people. He might even win, a lot of people are unhappy about how the region and remote communities in particular get ignored by government.