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Rumda posted:Lowland Scots never spoke Gaelic at any point so if your uniting it with Northumbria and Cumbria you may as well add the rest of Britain in, or at least Wales and Cornwall. The map thread may be the place to keep an eye on Paul Kavanagh working on his map of Gaelic placenames in Scotland then. With place-names all over Fife, Tayside, Dumfries and the Lothians which are Gaelic that's quite the conundrum. quote:They’ve insisted that Gaelic was never spoken in places which have Gaelic names. But no one in Edinburgh / Fife / Dumfries ever spoke Gaelic, they say, oblivious to the fact that all of those places contain significant numbers of Gaelic place names which prove that Gaelic was indeed once spoken there.
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Alan G posted:Another example is Scone 
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Alan G posted:The map thread may be the place to keep an eye on Paul Kavanagh working on his map of Gaelic placenames in Scotland then. With place-names all over Fife, Tayside, Dumfries and the Lothians which are Gaelic that's quite the conundrum. He's not exactly coming at it from an objective viewpoint.
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Alan G posted:Another example is Scone in Perthshire, Scotland. Relocated to New Scone so you had Old Scone and New Scone. In 1997 New Scone was changed to just Scone, but afaik it's still Old Scone for the old village (and former capital) Old Scone is not the most appetising of names
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Alan G posted:The map thread may be the place to keep an eye on Paul Kavanagh working on his map of Gaelic placenames in Scotland then. With place-names all over Fife, Tayside, Dumfries and the Lothians which are Gaelic that's quite the conundrum. I don't see the map in that link. Would be interesting for sure. Though one should still be careful with the conclusion, there are a bunch of Germanic toponyms in France and Wallonia for places where the bulk of the population never or only briefly spoke a Germanic language. Alan G posted:Another example is Scone in Perthshire, Scotland. Relocated to New Scone so you had Old Scone and New Scone. In 1997 New Scone was changed to just Scone, but afaik it's still Old Scone for the old village (and former capital) There is Oud-Turnhout in Flanders. Apparently known as Old Turnhout since at least the 14th century, so I suppose the new Turnhout emerged as a more attractive trade center some time before that. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Jan 29, 2017 |
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i'm pretty sure everyone in the british isles was celtic before the romans showed up? maybe they didn't speak that specific variety of gaelic but other than that i'm a little confused here
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icantfindaname posted:i'm pretty sure everyone in the british isles was celtic before the romans showed up? maybe they didn't speak that specific variety of gaelic but other than that i'm a little confused here Gaelic is an Irish language. Scotland takes its name from a Roman word for the Irish (Scoti). The people in Great Britain spoke Brythonic Celtic languages closer to Welsh/Cornish/Breton. The Scots are just as much invaders in our fair isle as the Anglo-Saxon bastards. GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jan 29, 2017 |
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Technically, the Celts themselves didn't show up in the British Isles until about a millennium B.C. at the earliest.
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Whiz Palace posted:China is like 45% rice, 35% corn and 20% wheat. I know the rice is (to the surprise of many) limited to the southern half of the country, but I'm curious as to what they consider as corn. it's just corn
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Unironically, full independence for Scotland, Wales, even Cornwall, the largest possible versions, also the Isle of Man, unite all of Eire, give Shetland back to Norway, give the Channel Islands back to France, and dismantle what's left of England back into the Heptarchy with an independent Yorkshire and independent London city-state. I am not joking.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Unironically, full independence for Scotland, Wales, even Cornwall, the largest possible versions, also the Isle of Man, unite all of Eire, give Shetland back to Norway, give the Channel Islands back to France, and dismantle what's left of England back into the Heptarchy with an independent Yorkshire and independent London city-state. I am not joking. England's horcruxes
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Unironically, full independence for Scotland, Wales, even Cornwall, the largest possible versions, also the Isle of Man, unite all of Eire, give Shetland back to Norway, give the Channel Islands back to France, and dismantle what's left of England back into the Heptarchy with an independent Yorkshire and independent London city-state. I am not joking. are you just really into complicated maps? not judging, mind
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Angepain posted:are you just really into complicated maps? not judging, mind No just seriously Anglophobic and against the idea of a UK that is always going to be dominated by the English, no matter what.
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“Fifty‐three million people have more political power than eleven million.”
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:No just seriously Anglophobic and against the idea of a UK that is always going to be dominated by the English, no matter what. Well to be fair aren't they like 80% of the population
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There's a solution: get rid of the UK. As I've been saying.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:There's a solution: get rid of the UK. As I've been saying. Hmmm nah
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:No just seriously Anglophobic and against the idea of a UK that is always going to be dominated by the English, no matter what. Are you from anywhere in the UK? Your answer will affect whether I call you somewhat naive or a bampot. (p.s. i voted Yes in the independence referendum and I still think you're being a bit weird here)
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Platystemon posted:“Fifty‐three million people have more political power than eleven million.” Sounds like what YOU need is an Electoral College!
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Platystemon posted:“Fifty‐three million people have more political power than eleven million.” Eleven million is a lot, and it's unfair that a compact group (groups) at the periphery with voting preferences different from the core is forced to obey unfavorable rules just because ***borders***
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:There's a solution: get rid of the UK. As I've been saying. That won't actually fix any of your problems. You'd just have a new elite with their bootheel on the workers' throats..... unless you think you'd be part of that new elite?
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I am an American, and I never said that the UK should be dismantled for reasons of economic justice.
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Also, I'm wrong, I'm being ridiculous, and I apologize for my posts.
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England is a cancer
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Also, I'm wrong, I'm being ridiculous, and I apologize for my posts. But you are right, the UK must be destroyed unironically.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Also, I'm wrong, I'm being ridiculous, and I apologize for my posts. I mean England is a horrible thing you're not wrong about that Everyone else just has to leave the UK. NI can join Ireland, Scotland can leave for real and the London should just quietly cart the queen outside the city limits when she's asleep and secede when she wakes up. Wales can just do whatever, nobody won't be paying any attention to them for a while with all that going on. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Jan 30, 2017 |
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reported everyone itt for racism
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Whorelord posted:reported everyone itt for racism  lord
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I will abjure any of my deeply held beliefs that cause pointless derails. Truly I am the Henry IV of the internet. Honestly didn't know there was more than one UK defender.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Unironically, full independence for Scotland, Wales, even Cornwall, the largest possible versions, also the Isle of Man, unite all of Eire, give Shetland back to Norway, give the Channel Islands back to France, and dismantle what's left of England back into the Heptarchy with an independent Yorkshire and independent London city-state. I am not joking. Why can't Man join Eire? Maybe as some Hong Kong-style special economic zone so they can keep doing money laundering or whatever it is they do there. And if we're just going for total insanity anyway, might as well have Cornwall and Wales form a confederation with independent Brittany. EDIT: I'm fine with the TapTheForwardAssist fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jan 30, 2017 |
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Return Britannia to Italy, evict the Anglo-Saxon invaders.
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Byzantine posted:Return Britannia to Italy, evict the Anglo-Saxon invaders. DOGGERLAND FOR THE NEANDERTHAL.
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my suggestion for the future united kingdom is that the prevailing wind direction is nne, so the cleansing atomic fire could hit all of london, the midlands, and up through yorkshire with relatively minor risks to the rest of the island.
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That's not very nice to Norway.
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Kassad posted:That's not very nice to Norway. The nuclear thing, or giving them back the Shetlands?
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What's a country? I have tried looking up definitions, but I think I would understand better if I had some sort of visual aid.
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Tree Goat posted:the prevailing wind direction Speaking of which, why is it that wind is the only thing in the universe* whose direction is given as the opposite of the way it's actually going? Like a "north wind" is actually blowing southward? * Okay, and electrical current. But that's just a historical accident because Ben Franklin had a 50-50 shot and he guessed wrong. Powered Descent fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Jan 30, 2017 |
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A North wind is a wind coming from the North, what's so complicated about that? Were the Vikings Southerners because they kept raiding South?
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