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Brain Candy: May 18, 2006

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

scala's paren free syntax is seriously gross

it would maybe be acceptable if `foo bar` was not equivalent to `foo.bar()` for arity 1 functions.

It Begins

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the talent deficit: Dec 20, 2003; self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture

Brain Candy posted:

It Begins

no kidding. if this is shocking to you i can't wait until you have to deal with implicit based di

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fritz: Jul 26, 2003

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

scala's paren free syntax is seriously gross

confirm

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VikingofRock: Aug 24, 2008

"arity" is such a weird word. I occasionally feel the same way about "tuple" as well

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gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

VikingofRock posted:

"arity" is such a weird word. I occasionally feel the same way about "tuple" as well

two-tuple

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AggressivelyStupid: Jan 9, 2012

I pronounce tuple like two-ple. It feels right and I'm not sorry.

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Athas: Aug 6, 2007; fuck that joker

Was Scala always such a mess or did they just never say no? I mean the type system has to be complicated to interop with Java (see also F#), but it seems to have a lot of other gratuitous superficial complexity.

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leper khan: Dec 28, 2010; Honest to god thinks Half Life 2 is a bad game. But at least he likes Monster Hunter.

AggressivelyStupid posted:

I pronounce tuple like two-ple. It feels right and I'm not sorry.

it is right and you shouldn't be

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Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

you guys are allergic to cool math words

# ? Jan 31, 2017 14:48

Internet Janitor: May 17, 2008; "That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."

VikingofRock posted:

"arity" is such a weird word. I occasionally feel the same way about "tuple" as well

The APL community uses the much cooler word "valence". Functions which accept a variable number of arguments are, naturally, "ambivalent".

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Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

tuple is pronounce tuh-pul.

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ulmont: Sep 15, 2010; IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Shaggar posted:

tuple is pronounce tuh-pul.

That's not right, either for tuple itself (via Oxford) or for the analogous quintuple and sextuple via Merriam-Webster.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/tuple
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quintuple
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sextuple

xref https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tuple

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Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

those are all incorrect.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 16:17

carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 10 years!)

as long as no one says "libe" for lib we're good

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Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

ulmont posted:

That's not right, either for tuple itself (via Oxford) or for the analogous quintuple and sextuple via Merriam-Webster.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/tuple
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quintuple
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sextuple

xref https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tuple

thank christ i have never had to say the word tuple out loud

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Slurps Mad Rips: Jan 25, 2009; Bwaltow!

carry on then posted:

as long as no one says "libe" for lib we're good

Or "enoom" for enum

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triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

scala's paren free syntax is seriously gross

it would maybe be acceptable if `foo bar` was not equivalent to `foo.bar()` for arity 1 functions.

Brain Candy posted:

It Begins

this is unfortunately what happens when you don't get a feel for the language you'll be using in a new job prior to accepting said job

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CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

or "char"

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Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
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Wheany posted:

thank christ i have never had to say the word tuple out loud

i like to say sextuple out loud

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AggressivelyStupid: Jan 9, 2012

Also, ~ is teal-day

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The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

AggressivelyStupid posted:

Also, ~ is teal-day

its till-duh and i will fight you

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jony neuemonic: Nov 13, 2009

till-dee, you maniacs.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 18:43

Slurps Mad Rips: Jan 25, 2009; Bwaltow!

AggressivelyStupid posted:

Also, ~ is teal-day

over my dead body, vato. till-day

# ? Jan 31, 2017 18:43

AggressivelyStupid: Jan 9, 2012

Slurps Mad Rips posted:

over my dead body, vato. till-day

Look, esé, you can't bastardize the two versions into one only half wrong version!!!

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

its till-duh and i will fight you

you'll need to learn BUMPS when I'm done w/ you

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Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

its till-duh and i will fight you

this is correct

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Athas posted:

Was Scala always such a mess or did they just never say no? I mean the type system has to be complicated to interop with Java (see also F#), but it seems to have a lot of other gratuitous superficial complexity.

i think it actually started out completely insane and then got somewhat saner over time as they realized what a bad idea a bunch of its features were

# ? Jan 31, 2017 19:25

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

triple sulk posted:

this is unfortunately what happens when you don't get a feel for the language you'll be using in a new job prior to accepting said job

i didn't accept until today so getting a feel for the language before accepting is exactly what i was doing.

im very happy to use scala because i want functional programming experience.

also, all of my professional experience is in ruby so i am thrilled to have an opportunity to never touch ruby again

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dick traceroute: Feb 24, 2010; Open the pod bay doors, Hal.; Grimey Drawer

Slurps Mad Rips posted:

over my dead body, vato. till-day

squiggly line

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AggressivelyStupid: Jan 9, 2012

dick traceroute posted:

squiggly line

This is acceptable

# ? Jan 31, 2017 21:44

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

Sagacity posted:

Or still use c++ perhaps?

They're still working on the WebSocket server examples, I'm not overly sure on the integration model either. Anyway I decided to be a bit smarter and flipped things around to make the C++ only a client so I can still use that gigantic turd of Node.js because it needs to integrate with other stuff.

I get about 3 hours of time to work on this every day, I've managed to waste a lot of it so far doing wonderful things like debugging Node.JS native code integration, upgrading from Fedora 23 to 25, fixing Fedora 25 and Wayland breaking the VM, moving everything to Fedora 24, and reviewing every WebSocket library code out there.

MrMoo fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Feb 1, 2017

# ? Feb 1, 2017 04:22

HappyHippo: Nov 19, 2003; Do you have an Air Miles Card?

Powaqoatse posted:

its so you can go

char *a = "this line is really long,"
" and continues here. "
"and still continues";

just learned a new use case of this

code:


#define STR_HELPER (x) #x
#define STR(x) STR_HELPER(x)

#define MAJOR_VERSION 3
#define MINOR_VERSION 4

...

printf("Version is " STR(MAJOR_VERSION) "." STR(MINOR_VERSION) "\n");

c is hosed up

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Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

then on another level you also need to remember ## in the preprocessor, so you can do stuff like

#define CALL(obj, method) ((obj ## _vtable_lookup)(#method))(obj)

..
CALL(obj, method);
..

(been a solid 10 years since i wrote c so i may be off on the details)

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Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

You forgot the __VA_ARGS__

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Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

Stop triggering me, assholes.

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qntm: Jun 17, 2009

HappyHippo posted:

code:

#define STR_HELPER (x) #x
#define STR(x) STR_HELPER(x)

why can't you just do

C code:

#define STR(x) #x

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HappyHippo: Nov 19, 2003; Do you have an Air Miles Card?

qntm posted:

why can't you just do
C code:
#define STR(x) #x

because then STR(MAJOR_VERSION) will just expand to "MAJOR_VERSION" apparently

dont ask why cuz i dont know

HappyHippo fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Feb 2, 2017

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tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

lets macros get run over the arguments iirc

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Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

HappyHippo posted:

c is hosed up

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qntm: Jun 17, 2009

there was a time when I would use PHP to dynamically generate JavaScript and that creeped me out even at a time when I was voluntarily using PHP and JavaScript

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Athas: Aug 6, 2007; fuck that joker

There is something wrong with both PHP and Javascript, but there is nothing wrong with code generation.

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