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This lebron Barkley fight makes shut up and jam all the more prophetic.
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Rick posted:On the one hand James didn't actually respond to the one bit of valid criticism Barkley's ever made of him (at this point the Cavs are almost out of moves, I don't really know what else they can do right now but hope maybe that GMs are willing to take draft first round picks in like 2021 for players that normally would net a recent second rounder), but on the other he roasted him for all the other bad ones he's made over the years, so I'm cool with it. Exactly what was Barkley's "valid criticism"? Here's the quote ESPN has from Barkley quote:"Inappropriate. Whiny. All of the above," Barkley said of James last week. "The Cleveland Cavaliers, they have given him everything he wanted. They have the highest payroll in NBA history. He wanted J.R. Smith last summer, they paid him. He wanted [Iman] Shumpert last summer. They brought in Kyle Korver. He's the best player in the world. Does he want all of the good players? He don't want to compete? He is an amazing player. They're the defending champs." LeBron is right that the Cavs could use a backup PG and I have no problem with him saying it. Also LeBron was proven right to want Love over Wiggins, he was right to want to retain Thompson, he was right to want Shump and JR over Waiters, and he will likely be correct in preferring Korver to Mo.
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Jan 31, 2017 14:45
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Considering Mo Williams wasn't actually playing this year it's not exactly prescient to prefer Korver over him. Did you mean Dunleavy?
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Jan 31, 2017 14:52
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Henchman of Santa posted:Considering Mo Williams wasn't actually playing this year it's not exactly prescient to prefer Korver over him. Did you mean Dunleavy? No I meant Mo Williams, signing off on trading Panthro would've been very difficult for Lion-O. (I actually forgot Dunleavy was part of the deal)
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Jan 31, 2017 15:00
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Rick posted:On the one hand James didn't actually respond to the one bit of valid criticism Barkley's ever made of him (at this point the Cavs are almost out of moves, I don't really know what else they can do right now but hope maybe that GMs are willing to take draft first round picks in like 2021 for players that normally would net a recent second rounder), but on the other he roasted him for all the other bad ones he's made over the years, so I'm cool with it. I mean, they are the reigning champs. It's ok to be out of moves when you are standing at "NBA Champion". Backup PG can be found without giving up assets, and he was answering a question. It always bugs me, people complain that athletes give dumb quotes, but instead of "We're a team and we'll stick together" Lebron gave some actual analysis and gets roasted for it.
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Jan 31, 2017 15:03
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Metapod posted:I know a lot of people don't care about the wnba but whoa https://twitter.com/SLAMonline/status/826248304702918656 I don't know anything about the players they traded for her (seems like a lot) but I would argue she's the best women's player that has ever lived so the deal was probably worth it. I had read that she had a lot of behind the scenes problems with Chicago management but never really thought she would force out because she has a really large presence in the community.
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Jan 31, 2017 15:04
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Lockback posted:I mean, they are the reigning champs. It's ok to be out of moves when you are standing at "NBA Champion". Backup PG can be found without giving up assets, and he was answering a question. Yeah there's literally no way in hell you can get that Cavs team to the finals without being out of moves. They unfortunately started with very few assets (Waiters, Bennett, Zeller, and CJ Miles?) and then had to give big raises to Lebron, Kyrie, Love, Shump, JR and Thompson.
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Jan 31, 2017 15:17
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DeimosRising posted:You're a better poster than we deserve. Will you be doing the I Ching playoff predictions this year? I've got a copy of the Tung Shing, and if I can figure out how to use it in time then yeah. Also ty to everybody who took the time to read that thing.
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Jan 31, 2017 15:23
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LeBron rules.
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Jan 31, 2017 15:24
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More people should let Charles Barkley know he's a huge shithead.
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Jan 31, 2017 15:29
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So, are the Celtics going to trade that Nets pick in a package for Butler? If not, what the hell are they going to do with it?
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Jan 31, 2017 15:39
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The oldest, slowest assist-to-dunk in the nba https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Wosxo8D5g
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Jan 31, 2017 15:47
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Paul Zuvella posted:More people should let Charles Barkley know he's a huge shithead. He's a likeable shithead though, isn't he?
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Jan 31, 2017 15:52
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Jack's Flow posted:Man, Lowry is just great. Lowry needs to come home next year. Lowry and Embiid together would be gold.
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Jan 31, 2017 16:01
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Charlz Guybon posted:So, are the Celtics going to trade that Nets pick in a package for Butler? If not, what the hell are they going to do with it? I mean, see if they get #1 and then have more leverage. Butler is an interesting piece but I don't think he is a magic fit for them. I'd rather try and get Boogie.
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Jan 31, 2017 16:02
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I feel like Butler would be easier to trade for. The Kings are deluded into thinking they can compete every year and I think less likely to trade Cousins. The Bulls front office are looking for a scapegoat.
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Jan 31, 2017 16:09
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teagone posted:He's a likeable shithead though, isn't he? Kinda. He's my favorite player of all time, but his act has worn thin.
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Jan 31, 2017 16:13
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WhyteRyce posted:Pretty much the only time we have a chance is if Lawson elevates his game above trash sub replacement level Maybe he can pretend to play the Pacers every night. He sure elevated his game last Friday. Sonofabitch....
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Jan 31, 2017 16:20
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Lmao I still love Charles Barkley. I'd drink some beer and eat ribs with that dude.
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Jan 31, 2017 16:23
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Kinda. He's my favorite player of all time, but his act has worn thin. Especially because it's painfully obvious that his "3s are ruining the game" stance is literally because he was, quite literally, one of the worst 3 point shooters in the history of the league and he's butthurt that people may think he would be bad today.
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Jan 31, 2017 16:25
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Paul Zuvella posted:Especially because it's painfully obvious that his "3s are ruining the game" stance is literally because he was, quite literally, one of the worst 3 point shooters in the history of the league and he's butthurt that people may think he would be bad today. Agreed. Lebron's rant would've been much better if he would've just focused on Barkley post-retirement. What exactly is wrong with saying "I am not a role model"?
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Jan 31, 2017 16:39
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Charles Barkley rules
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Jan 31, 2017 16:40
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:Agreed. Lebron's rant would've been much better if he would've just focused on Barkley post-retirement. What exactly is wrong with saying "I am not a role model"? I mean credit to him for not just saying "I have rings" so I think he avoided his basketball career shortcomings pretty well for the most part
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Jan 31, 2017 16:42
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Charles Barkley does rule and he didn't even say anything that wrong about Lebron. barkley posted:"Inappropriate. Whiny. All of the above," Barkley said of James last week. "The Cleveland Cavaliers, they have given him everything he wanted. They have the highest payroll in NBA history. He wanted J.R. Smith last summer, they paid him. He wanted [Iman] Shumpert last summer. They brought in Kyle Korver. He's the best player in the world. Does he want all of the good players? He don't want to compete? He is an amazing player. They're the defending champs." Lebron whines like a mother fucker and everyone hated that guy for YEARS because of it. He also completely augmented the team to his liking as he did in Miami too. Got Tristan Thompson paid, got J.R. Smith paid, got Mo Williams tossed out of town. Also Lebron is completely right about Barkley too.
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Jan 31, 2017 16:43
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:Agreed. Lebron's rant would've been much better if he would've just focused on Barkley post-retirement. What exactly is wrong with saying "I am not a role model"? There's nothing wrong with it, but it makes you a hypocrite to say that and then turn around (20 years later) and try to rip a guy apart because of his attitude. It's doubly wrong when there is also nothing wrong with the guys attitude. Like, there is nothing wrong with me saying "I won't work anywhere that doesn't give me 4 weeks of PTO", but then I can't turn around and say "Software Managers shouldn't be bitching about their PTO!".
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Jan 31, 2017 16:51
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Paul Zuvella posted:Especially because it's painfully obvious that his "3s are ruining the game" stance is literally because he was, quite literally, one of the worst 3 point shooters in the history of the league and he's butthurt that people may think he would be bad today. I don't know i have the same thought really. There are a few of us that feel that way. I find many games unwatchable and too many teams jack up 30+ three point attempts per game. Only a handful of teams can justify that, the rest just look like amateurs. Frankly its kind of boring sometimes. There have been other times i have been disapointed with the NBA. Late 90's thugball was getting out of control until the league stepped in to move the game in another direction.
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Jan 31, 2017 17:09
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chilihead posted:I don't know i have the same thought really. There are a few of us that feel that way. I find many games unwatchable and too many teams jack up 30+ three point attempts per game. Only a handful of teams can justify that, the rest just look like amateurs. Frankly its kind of boring sometimes. There have been other times i have been disapointed with the NBA. I'm not really sure what they could do to discourage the amount of 3s teams take unless they do something drastic like removing them or widening the court. Making the line longer won't mean much until it drops the expected value of an open 3pt shot to the same as a contested mid-range which would result in corner 3s being completely removed and the line moved back like 3 more feet. Which would then make teams with shooting like the Warriors even more dangerous in comparison to other teams.
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Jan 31, 2017 17:23
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Like, if you move the 3pt line back far enough so that percentages drop to like 30-33%, any team that has players that can hit 3s at this new line at 35-38% will stretch the defense even more than they do now and make every kind of scoring easier. In a way, extending the line makes the game even more 3pt oriented for the best shooting teams. Not sure if that is the kind of change people want.
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Jan 31, 2017 17:25
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https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/826406416785276928 No idea if they're going to actually do it or not, but I hope they do.
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Jan 31, 2017 17:28
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https://twitter.com/CharlesOakley34/status/826448322131009537
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Jan 31, 2017 17:31
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So do people want 20 second isos every possession or something, because that's the only real alternative to lessening the 3-point line And before you answer, watch 20 games of this year's Mavericks and Harrison Barnes
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Jan 31, 2017 17:34
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Lockback posted:There's nothing wrong with it, but it makes you a hypocrite to say that and then turn around (20 years later) and try to rip a guy apart because of his attitude. It's doubly wrong when there is also nothing wrong with the guys attitude. They are completely different things. Barkley called LeBron out for being a whiny pussy. LeBron countered with "he's an rear end in a top hat". Doltos posted:Charles Barkley does rule and he didn't even say anything that wrong about Lebron. exactly. Technically they are both attitude problems, but they are completely different types of attitude problems.
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Jan 31, 2017 17:36
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quote:Fisher’s relationship with Jackson, his former coach on the Lakers, soured during their time together in New York. Fisher made it clear in the article that he had not been happy trying to coach to Jackson’s specifications, even if Jackson had won 11 N.B.A. titles as a head coach, and suggested that he had been unwisely asked to impose the past on the present. Derek Fisher was poo poo and he should start a grumpy podcast with Mark Jackson where they tell the world how great they are.
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Jan 31, 2017 17:37
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LeBron strongarmed the Cavs into overpaying for all of his agent/friend's clients and then complains that the front office isn't doing enough. There's nothing left to do! They have no flexibility left. You can't have your cake and eat it too. I don't hate LeBron or anything but it's completely asinine that he publicly called out Griffin for this poo poo in the first place.
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Jan 31, 2017 17:41
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Cavs are bringing in Mario Chalmers, Kirk Hinrich (lol) and Lance Stephenson for try outs tomorrow. If Lance is healthy I think he would be a really good pick up for them.
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Jan 31, 2017 17:42
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tanglewood1420 posted:Cavs are bringing in Mario Chalmers, Kirk Hinrich (lol) and Lance Stephenson for try outs tomorrow. If Lance is healthy I think he would be a really good pick up for them. Nooooooooooooo...Larry please don't let this happen. Pick up Lance now!
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Jan 31, 2017 17:45
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Mario Chalmers was quite good in mephis last year before getting hurt. He would be the best option if healthy.
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Jan 31, 2017 17:46
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tanglewood1420 posted:Cavs are bringing in Mario Chalmers, Kirk Hinrich (lol) and Lance Stephenson for try outs tomorrow. If Lance is healthy I think he would be a really good pick up for them. Yeah, Lance would give them some playmaking and help them defensively. He's not the worst idea for what they need.
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Jan 31, 2017 17:46
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Tbf all LeBron said is that they need a backup Point Guard. Which is correct.
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Please god sign Kirk Cavs. I want Kirk Hinrich to win a ring.
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