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When's the next juggernaut rework so we can get a new skarner mini game
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Jan 31, 2017 20:27
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In Riots parlance, juggernauts are fighters, not tanks. They are designed to be low mobility, high damage, melee characters. Presumably the tank update will sharpen the contrast between fighters and tanks by cutting the amount of damage full tanks can do to squishies but improving their utility and disruptiveness. E: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list. That should let you know what kind of champs they are looking at reworking
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Jan 31, 2017 20:34
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 http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/dev-blog-classes-subclasses
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Jan 31, 2017 20:39
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Sexpansion posted:Next large-scale champion rework project is tanks, so expect that to completely break the game soon. The idea is to nerf the armor items and buff the MR items so I expect it to be p gucci. We'll see of course, maybe they overtune the tanks further to keep them balanced, but apparently Riot doesn't like how easy it is to get beefy against physical attacks ATM.
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Jan 31, 2017 20:48
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Sexpansion posted:
This game sucks lol
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Jan 31, 2017 20:48
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thelazyblank posted:I imagine this one will make assassins insane for some reason. Probably because the assassin one made tanks insane. The initial Courage of the Colossus tanks insane, and it just happened to occur on the same patch as the assassin rework. So that means Riot will change Deathfire Touch into a free Zed-ult or accidentally make the Last Whisper items into assassin items on the same patch as the tank rework.
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Jan 31, 2017 20:57
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I seriously rather have an afk than play with an autofilled support. Its just disgusting, forced me to basically stop playing one of my favorite roles. I will wait 15 minutes in queue every day rather than have autofilled enable get 3 min queues but 20 min guranteed ff games because your autofilled support picks Thresh and lands 1 hook approximately every 10 minutes. They seriously need to remove autofill put that in Flex queue if you want to have quick fun games.
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Jan 31, 2017 21:02
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Firebert posted:In Riots parlance, juggernauts are fighters, not tanks. They are designed to be low mobility, high damage, melee characters. Presumably the tank update will sharpen the contrast between fighters and tanks by cutting the amount of damage full tanks can do to squishies but improving their utility and disruptiveness. Yeah I think it doesn't really help the distinction when maokai can just stick on your adc until they die like some sort of unstoppable juggernaut but I think it's kind of an awkward situation where they have to be good enough to be played in the top lane and cs appropriately.
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Jan 31, 2017 21:04
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ArbitraryC posted:Yeah I think it doesn't really help the distinction when maokai can just stick on your adc until they die like some sort of unstoppable juggernaut but I think it's kind of an awkward situation where they have to be good enough to be played in the top lane and cs appropriately. Almost all of the broken champs right now are the ones that fill too many of those roles. It's a fun game to play. Camille? Skirmisher and juggernaut. Rengar? Assassin and Diver. Zyra? Burst mage and disruptor. etc.
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Jan 31, 2017 21:06
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Jan 31, 2017 21:41
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It's great that 2 assassins are already on the tier 1 rework list, and I'm legitimately surprised Ryze isn't on there again somehow. I hope they give rammus a sweet ramp to hop over stuff with.
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Jan 31, 2017 21:47
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On the other hand, I really want to see a modern Dr. Mundo.
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Jan 31, 2017 22:08
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NOOOOOOO, don't touch my Kyle, Riot!
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Jan 31, 2017 22:14
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wtf Morgana's design is just fine, there is nothing that needs updating on her kit. if they give her stupid 3 hit passives or whatever i will be sorely disappointed
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Jan 31, 2017 23:02
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How Rude posted:wtf Morgana's design is just fine, there is nothing that needs updating on her kit. if they give her stupid 3 hit passives or whatever i will be sorely disappointed I think Morganas kit is an excellent example of a simpler champion design and I don't think it needs to be touched.
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Jan 31, 2017 23:05
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Ulio posted:I seriously rather have an afk than play with an autofilled support. Its just disgusting, forced me to basically stop playing one of my favorite roles. I will wait 15 minutes in queue every day rather than have autofilled enable get 3 min queues but 20 min guranteed ff games because your autofilled support picks Thresh and lands 1 hook approximately every 10 minutes. They seriously need to remove autofill put that in Flex queue if you want to have quick fun games. I had this happen a few games ago with a blitzcrank but I had luckily picked MF and so it didn't matter if he missed all his hooks
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Jan 31, 2017 23:07
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Kokoro Wish posted:On the other hand, I really want to see a modern Dr. Mundo. Q now has a chain he can re press q to gap close with, w pulses like Leona shield and ccs when it explodes, e unchanged, r makes his autos root enemies while it's active, instead of saying "Mundo go this way" he's really sarcastic now like "oh I think I'll go over here... assuming nobody says otherwise? Didn't think so" and he's got robot arms and Godzilla spikes down his back now.
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Jan 31, 2017 23:10
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How Rude posted:wtf Morgana's design is just fine, there is nothing that needs updating on her kit. if they give her stupid 3 hit passives or whatever i will be sorely disappointed They should change her W into something interesting and give her model the overhaul that both Kayle and Morg need badly.
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Jan 31, 2017 23:10
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Jan 31, 2017 23:18
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How Rude posted:wtf Morgana's design is just fine, there is nothing that needs updating on her kit. if they give her stupid 3 hit passives or whatever i will be sorely disappointed They said Morg is mostly fine and won't get many changes. Kayle is the one that's kinda a dumpster fire.
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Jan 31, 2017 23:19
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Kayle's fine imo
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Jan 31, 2017 23:28
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henkman posted:Kayle's fine imo She's kinda stupid because she scales like an ADC but way harder than even the strongest actual AD carries, and she's very hard to disrupt because she requires so much CC to pin down with her ulti being a thing. Her earlygame is also better than most carries too, to boot. Her design 'works' but could use tuning to like, fit within the paradigms of what League expects out of a carry tbqh.
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Jan 31, 2017 23:45
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Cho'gath has badly fallen behind the times, especially in the era of trying to hit his Q when half the champs in the game will have a 3 second cooldown dash or can straight murder his face off, not to mention everyone and everything has % health damage now.
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Jan 31, 2017 23:47
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Transient People posted:She's kinda stupid because she scales like an ADC but way harder than even the strongest actual AD carries, and she's very hard to disrupt because she requires so much CC to pin down with her ulti being a thing. Her earlygame is also better than most carries too, to boot. Her design 'works' but could use tuning to like, fit within the paradigms of what League expects out of a carry tbqh. Yeah that's all fair, but I think that could be fixed with numbers tuning and she doesn't really need to be on that list like cho, akali, and xin zhao need to be
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Jan 31, 2017 23:49
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henkman posted:Yeah that's all fair, but I think that could be fixed with numbers tuning and she doesn't really need to be on that list like cho, akali, and xin zhao need to be I feel like Intervention really doesn't belong on that kit along with that damage, personally. Not without some kinda delay or something, so long as it's instant Kayle will always hit that 'lol you cannot do anything to me' point if the game goes long enough where she wins by default. Wouldn't be opposed to her getting a new ult that fits an avenging angel more, tbqh.
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Jan 31, 2017 23:58
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Firebert posted:They should change her W into something interesting and give her model the overhaul that both Kayle and Morg need badly. There's a lot of situations where Morg basically has two skills instead of three. If you're playing her mid against AD, her shield does nothing; if you're playing her support, her E procs Spellthiefs, pushes in early levels, and that's it. There's not much gameplay involved there. Her power is so heavily invested in her Q that she's basically ranged Blitzcrank: hit your skillshot they die, miss it you stand around until your cooldown is back. She's also super reliant on both flash and Zhonya's for her ult.
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Feb 1, 2017 00:33
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cho gath is cool, hes my big friend. you cant flash his silence its weird, peace
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Feb 1, 2017 01:13
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Sexpansion posted:
I rolled my eyes so hard I hurt myself. Sexpansion posted:I think Morganas kit is an excellent example of a simpler champion design and I don't think it needs to be touched. I dislike that they seem to be slowly removing simple abilities. It's sometimes done with the reasoning that the character is binary or linear, but is it really a problem that to be stamped out? BigLeafyTree fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Feb 1, 2017 01:13
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...why? That's... that seems like it's pretty efficiently splitting them up.
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Feb 1, 2017 01:15
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curiousCat posted:...why? That's... that seems like it's pretty efficiently splitting them up. Marksman/Marksman is funny as poo poo tbqh The rest more or less makes good sense
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Feb 1, 2017 01:30
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BTW, I dunno if anybody's posted this yet, but: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/01/dev-state-of-champion-update-january.html This is a pretty interesting post. Apparently they want to make most tanks much less samey (because right now they're what Riot calls 'Amumu variations' since they all poo poo out some CC and then do ambient damage) and make them benefit way more from tank items than anybody else. New tanking statistic about to be introduced?!
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Feb 1, 2017 01:32
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Sexpansion posted:
marksmen marksmen still makes me laugh it's just so good
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Feb 1, 2017 01:34
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a medical mystery posted:marksmen marksmen still makes me laugh it's just so good there is only one type of clickyman and they are all the same. an accurate table
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Feb 1, 2017 01:39
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riot please destroy yasuo and all yasuo players thanks
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Feb 1, 2017 01:39
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I would be super pissed at a Pantheon rework, his kit is extremely fine. Especially given Skarner was such a fuckup on their part.
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Feb 1, 2017 01:47
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Servaetes posted:I would be super pissed at a Pantheon rework, his kit is extremely fine. Especially given Skarner was such a fuckup on their part. A panth rework would probably just be 'spear is a skillshot with twice the range it has now' Like it happened with veigar basically That'd probably be an A-OK tradeoff
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Feb 1, 2017 01:51
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Transient People posted:A panth rework would probably just be 'spear is a skillshot with twice the range it has now' They'll make his spear go through multiple enemies and knock up whatever it hits at the end of its path. For some inexplicable reason this will do more damage if the other team killed the Rift Herald. They'll rejigger his ult a bit and then AP Pantheon will be his best build. Riot will try to fix it; the fix crashes the game if Pantheon and Syndra are on the same team but not if the other team picks Urgot.
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Feb 1, 2017 01:53
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Servaetes posted:I would be super pissed at a Pantheon rework, his kit is extremely fine. Especially given Skarner was such a fuckup on their part. Oh come on. I've played a bunch of Pantheon too, and the only thing they need to keep from the old kit is his passive and ult. As a solo laner, he's oppressive, one-dimensional, and completely braindead other than his ult. At the very least, they need to make shaco-esque changes to his scaling so that being up a kill and 30cs is basically going even because of the cliff he drops off. People can make fun of Riot reworks and I get that you're mad about Skarner, but things do improve over time. If you'd rather play with old Warwick than new, your head is broken.
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Feb 1, 2017 03:07
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Sexpansion posted:I think Morganas kit is an excellent example of a simpler champion design and I don't think it needs to be touched. I love morgana a lot and don't want them to make her kit complicated or anything but I feel like her passive and ult could be messed with without drastically changing her playstyle. imo her ult in particular doesn't really make sense and is too reliant on either zhonya's or your team being ahead.
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Feb 1, 2017 03:10
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And please keep in mind what he's saying. If I'm reading it right, those are just candidates for their most work-intensive reworks. It doesn't mean that they're going to do to Nunu what they did to LeBlanc, it means that those are the next ones on the table for Warwick-esque full relaunches.
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Feb 1, 2017 03:12
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