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1gnoirents posted:That would be neat as hell. Should release a line of Xxxxtreme overclocking IHS waterblocks. They xould charge whatever they wanted too http://www.pcgamer.com/researchers-have-moved-liquid-cooling-directly-onto-the-chip/
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Somebody tell me to be good, I just found a server rack that could pass for furniture. http://www.istarusa.com/istarusa/products.php?model=WRT-945
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Somebody tell me to be good, I just found a server rack that could pass for furniture. Isn't an ottoman or kitchen island, no buy.
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Jan 29, 2017 11:35
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Somebody tell me to be good, I just found a server rack that could pass for furniture. No you go the other way. https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack
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Da Mott Man posted:No you go the other way. Jokes? We got 'em: quote:Assembly
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RyuHimora posted:That'd consume, what, 1000 watts? What's the next step beyond liquid nitrogen cooling? I have a feeling a 240nm Naples core would need that. You'd end up downclocking it to like 600-800 Mhz in order to get it under the 135W power limit. Also, I rechecked the ITAR website, and yep, CPU manufacturing technologies, microcode, firmware, and related systems, articles, and methods of fabrication are restricted and subject to export rules. So open sourcing it would be a big big no-no.
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Jan 30, 2017 06:09
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FaustianQ posted:Isn't an ottoman or kitchen island, no buy. That's a perfectly serviceable automan - it'll even keep your feet warm!
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Mommy, why is there a rackserver in the ottoman?
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Somebody tell me to be good, I just found a server rack that could pass for furniture. I was expecting something like the built in bench on Cray supercomputers. 
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http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-processor-6-core-model-700-usd-rumor/ I want to claim that this is everything I've been saying all along, but this is like... first polling results, now we wait for the final tally.
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PerrineClostermann posted:The really weird thing with ME is, as it was described at a talk at either Defcon or C3, it's basically a completely self-contained microcontroller that has direct access to the hardware the CPU runs on. Great for management, but also great for Actually, some people have figured out how to nuke it and also trick it into thinking it's still there. Confirmed working for Sandy/Ivy Bridge, I haven't checked back since but I'm sure other people have tried it with newer processors.  all the way down
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PerrineClostermann posted:In-chip water cooling. There was an official AMD slide intended for internal release showing exactly this leaked a dozen pages or so. It is legit as far as anyone can tell and I'm surprised that nobody has picked it up.
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PerrineClostermann posted:In-chip water cooling. Whatever happened to that immersion cooling intel was working on?
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PerrineClostermann posted:In-chip water cooling. ItBurns posted:AMD... internal... leaked 
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http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-am4-motherboard-details-features/ Motherboard poo poo. X370 now missing from "Relative Product Positioning Matrix" slide.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-processor-6-core-model-700-usd-rumor/ Welp, if this is true, and there are no 6-core models planned, looks like I'm going Intel this gen. Maybe next time, AMD.
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Ludicrous Gibs! posted:Welp, if this is true, and there are no 6-core models planned, looks like I'm going Intel this gen. Maybe next time, AMD. Can't you get 8 AMD cores for the price of 6 Intel cores? For gaming it's not a huge deal, but for media/video stuff it seems like a big one for sure.
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IanTheM posted:Can't you get 8 AMD cores for the price of 6 Intel cores? For gaming it's not a huge deal, but for media/video stuff it seems like a big one for sure. $700 is out of my CPU price range, though. And I'm not planning to use it for much other than gaming; it just seemed like with DX12 and Vulkan liable to pick up steam in the coming years, a 6-core CPU would be decent future-proofing (I know, I know). I was hoping for a 6-core part that would fall between $300 and $400.
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IanTheM posted:Can't you get 8 AMD cores for the price of 6 Intel cores? For gaming it's not a huge deal, but for media/video stuff it seems like a big one for sure. I'd hoped they would be targeting current 4core users as well with something compelling. If that's really possible, though.
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Ludicrous Gibs! posted:Welp, if this is true, and there are no 6-core models planned, looks like I'm going Intel this gen. Maybe next time, AMD. Their mid range 8C/8T would probably fit in this range based on the graph? I don't do much media processing, so I don't know how in theory that would stack up against 6C/12T, though.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-am4-motherboard-details-features/
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PerrineClostermann posted:In-chip water cooling. I think this is an old idea. I found a paper from 1981 where, using the same/similar micro-fabrication technology that they use to make the transistors and wires on the chips, the authors of the paper etched numerous micro-fins on the back of a chip and ran cold water over them to cool the chip. They were able to achieve a 71 degrees C temperature rise at 781 W/cm^2 chip power density. I'm not really a computer chip cooling enthusiast, so I'm not sure if that 71 C at 781 W/cm^2 number is impressive or not. It's obviously not that practical. silence_kit fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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NewFatMike posted:Their mid range 8C/8T would probably fit in this range based on the graph? I don't do much media processing, so I don't know how in theory that would stack up against 6C/12T, though. Good point. That'll teach me to skim articles.  Guess I'm still waiting on a price.
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Ludicrous Gibs! posted:(...) it just seemed like with DX12 and Vulkan liable to pick up steam in the coming years, a 6-core CPU would be decent future-proofing (I know, I know)... I'm not sure this particular dragon is worth chasing at all. DX12 will come but at this pace we'll probably be at DX13 or 14 before many cores are worth anything. And Vulkan, well, I don't know. I doubt anything will ever come of it.
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silence_kit posted:I think this is an old idea. I found a paper from 1981 where, using the same/similar micro-fabrication technology that they use to make the transistors and wires on the chips, the authors of the paper etched numerous micro-fins on the back of a chip and ran cold water over them to cool the chip. They were able to achieve a 71 degrees C temperature rise at 781 W/cm^2 chip power density. A current gen Xeon is about 6.2 cm^2, so in theory that would be a single chunk of silicon with about 4.8Kw of power flowing through it. The interior wall of a nuclear reactor vessel is about 240ish, and a rocket nozzle would be about 850-900 W/cm^2. You'd need some really complex and novel form of thermal management to make sure that the microfluidics are behaving properly, and that pump flow and head pressure are maintained. It would suck to have a small clog block off part of the chip and have it cook to death before the thermal conductivity is able to alert the thermistor that the chip has caught fire.
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Boiled Water posted:I'm not sure this particular dragon is worth chasing at all. DX12 will come but at this pace we'll probably be at DX13 or 14 before many cores are worth anything. And Vulkan, well, I don't know. I doubt anything will ever come of it. What exactly would newer iterations of DirectX even offer over DX12?
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FaustianQ posted:What exactly would newer iterations of DirectX even offer over DX12? Even worse unoptimized games?
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/3163500/components/amd-confirms-its-ryzen-cpu-will-launch-in-early-march-followed-by-the-vega-gpu.html A date range: quote:AMD’s eagerly-awaited Ryzen processor will launch in early March, according to AMD chief executive Lisa Su. Su specified the target date during the company’s fourth-quarter earnings call Tuesday afternoon.  :quote:Su’s comments seemingly back up what a Game Developers Conference presentation revealed earlier: that Ryzen would launch before March 3. (Su didn’t specifically confirm our report sourced from the GDC document, however.) Su also revealed that its Zen-based server product, Naples, will launch in the second quarter. Vega being Q2 translates to "basically, June"
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http://imgur.com/gallery/qheFr AM4 mobo slides featuring  leds.
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FaustianQ posted:What exactly would newer iterations of DirectX even offer over DX12? I'm hoping they'll push for more core use the further along we go.
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~~earnings stuff~~ It's interesting to see hype and news stories turn into figures. It'll be extremely interesting to see how the figures are in December with Vega and Ryzen released. Overall, AMD is doing much better than 2015. Their losses are way way down. Fingers crossed for profitability in the near-ish future.
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Boiled Water posted:I'm hoping they'll push for more core use the further along we go. That's mainly up to how the engine utilizes DirectX, not DirectX itself. Barring some dramatic change in how GPU architecture works (perhaps a shift from rasterization to dedicated raytracing hardware) it's hard to imagine them ever needing a DX13. Minor new features can just be bolted onto DX12, like they're doing with Shader Model 6.
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They're already doing that with the feature levels, are there even any GPUs right now that support the full DX12 spec?
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repiv posted:That's mainly up to how the engine utilizes DirectX, not DirectX itself. Yes this is what I thought. DX12 and Vulkan are already as low as you can go, so really only iterative improvement's to the current APIs make any sense to me. DX11 and OpenGL still have a use and I'd expect stuff from the newer APIs to filter down to them.
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Arzachel posted:They're already doing that with the feature levels, are there even any GPUs right now that support the full DX12 spec? Funnily enough Skylake and Kaby Lake are the only GPUs with 100% DX12 feature compatibility at the moment. Maxwell2 and Pascal meet the criteria for the highest feature level (12_1) but that doesn't require every feature. 
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Arzachel posted:http://imgur.com/gallery/qheFr quote:since 1989 ASUS has shipped over 500,000 million motherboards So, five hundred billion? They’ve shipped seventy motherboards for every man, woman, and child on the planet? I find that hard to believe.
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Arzachel posted:http://imgur.com/gallery/qheFr
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Platystemon posted:So, five hundred billion? They’ve shipped seventy motherboards for every man, woman, and child on the planet? Remember that server farms exist, people often own multiple personal computing devices, and businesses frequently have more computers than employees, and due to usage business computers often need new parts more often than personal devices.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Remember that server farms exist, people often own multiple personal computing devices, and businesses frequently have more computers than employees, and due to usage business computers often need new parts more often than personal devices. Windows XP sold a billion copies. There are a few factors working for ASUS here—ASUS sold motherboards for longer than Microsoft sold XP, Windows licenses are transferable in some cases, not all computers run Windows, it is not possible to pirate a physical product—but there’s no way they did five hundred times as much business. They’re not even the world’s only manufacturer of motherboards. Someone put too many zeroes in the number. e: They celebrated 500 million sales in 2015.. They Didn’t sell 69.93 motherboards for every man, woman, and child on the planet in two years. Someone copied that figure but forgot how numbers work. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Feb 2, 2017 |
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