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EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

8-Bit Scholar posted:

There was nothing left to take.

It makes a bizarre sort of sense. When fire spreads, it's not becoming a new fire, it is the same fire, just bigger or in a different location. Say if a fire jumped from one campfire to the other. It appears as two separate fires, and those fires themselves could then be used to make more fires, torches or lanterns, fires that go very far away and become much smaller. But it's all the same fire still.

So when a fire takes on the aspect of a human, it falls to logic that it would procreate in the same way. Human beings cannot simply expand and consume endlessly as fire can, so instead through birth and death the fire renews itself through breeding. A fire elemental would likely never grow to be very old, and would likely age faster and faster as it persists.

It is the essence of the myth of the phoenix.


oh

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Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade
You know somehow I hadn't quite made the tiny step it takes to link the firesoul to the phoenix myth...

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!

Cat Mattress posted:

She will lose her weird firespirit soul and become a normal human and will be doomed to die of old age, surrounded by her children and grandchildren. How sad.

My read was that they simply want her to die naturally, not necessarily lose her powers.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Whatever it was, it was something a young teen girl did not want to do but was pressured into doing by beings who were holding her friend's life hostage, so it is bad.

Clam Chowdown
May 8, 2006

That's an unacceptable answer, Donny!
Psychopomps Did Nothing Wrong

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Lurdiak posted:

Whatever it was, it was something a young teen girl did not want to do but was pressured into doing by beings who were holding her friend's life hostage, so it is bad.

She'll have to study and pass her exams and become an excellent student.

Secretly, Tony is the person leading the Psychopomps to improve his daughter's awful nature as a student.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Blaze Dragon posted:

She'll have to study and pass her exams and become an excellent student.

Secretly, Tony is the person leading the Psychopomps to improve his daughter's awful nature as a student.

I thiink the idea of Tony as a benevolent mastermind was debunked pretty hard in the chapter where it was revealed he's a big dumb dummy.

BrightWing
Apr 27, 2012

Yes, he is quite mad.

Lurdiak posted:

Whatever it was, it was something a young teen girl did not want to do but was pressured into doing by beings who were holding her friend's life hostage, so it is bad.

The heart of the matter really.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Lurdiak posted:

I thiink the idea of Tony as a benevolent mastermind was debunked pretty hard in the chapter where it was revealed he's a big dumb dummy.

ah, unless that's just what he WANTS you to think

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lurdiak posted:

Whatever it was, it was something a young teen girl did not want to do but was pressured into doing by beings who were holding her friend's life hostage, so it is bad.

Heck, the psychopomps don't have any other reason to be there; Annie already sent the souls on and all. They're there because they want something. They only came so they could make this deal with Annie and get even more from her, after she already dealt with a major problem they've had.

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

Where do you all think psychopomps like to eat?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


The landfill.

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





TRP Post of the Month October 2021

Lurdiak posted:

The landfill.

No, they like soul food.

berenzen
Jan 23, 2012

pik_d posted:

No, they like soul food.

That's a pretty ghastly pun.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Lurdiak posted:

I thiink the idea of Tony as a benevolent mastermind was debunked pretty hard in the chapter where it was revealed he's a big dumb dummy.
You fell for that? :rolleyes:

Cavelcade
Dec 9, 2015

I'm actually a boy!



berenzen posted:

That's a pretty ghastly pun.

Just let it rest in peace.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Death must be allowed to occur naturally except when we need something to blackmail you with lol

Beepity Boop
Nov 21, 2012

yay

At least they're doing Smitty's laundry for him. Bloodstains that big are normally an absolute bitch to get out, so I hear.

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

Hremsfeld posted:

At least they're doing Smitty's laundry for him. Bloodstains that big are normally an absolute bitch to get out, so I hear.

That's actually all they're fixing. Since clothing isn't alive, they have full power over it. His wound, however, well... Annie should've been more clear.

ArgumentatumE.C.T.
Nov 5, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Whatever they want, it must not have been related to the Fire Elemental business. Annie's been pissed at them since before the comic began, and mostly avoided speaking to them, so I doubt they came to her with a big ethereal bargain offscreen at some point in the last year. They do seem interested in getting her to help them in situations like the one back in the hospital with the Moddey-Dhoo. Ankou mentioned Annie working for the Psychopomps when they were in the Rotd. It seems like Surma served them as a medium and they want Annie to do that, too. I think she doesn't want to be involved in their discompassionate attitude on life and death, and particularly doesn't want to be reminded of losing her mother.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Annie will have to go back to the Psychopomps' Scrabble and Bingo Sessions every Thursday, and she hates it because she's always bored out of her minds at these things.

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

I wonder if Surma became a psychopomp under similar circumstances.

Doctor Tog
Oct 10, 2008

Surma was not a psychopomp (which themselves are mythical beings). Surma was an afterlife guide, and the ROTD sees Annie as one. We know however, that Annie does not want to be an afterlife guide in any sort of official capacity. It stands to reason that the deal that was struck here was Annie accepting her official role as an afterlife guide.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Cat Mattress posted:

Annie will have to go back to the Psychopomps' Scrabble and Bingo Sessions every Thursday, and she hates it because she's always bored out of her minds at these things.

I hear they are wickedly competitive about it, like its life or death

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


:stare: That's not ominous at all.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
After all these years, Annie made some actual friends, who want to hang out with her. :3:

Daius
Sep 10, 2010

This is fine

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Lurdiak posted:

:stare: That's not ominous at all.

old spirits claiming ownership over a teenage girl nothing possibly bad has ever come from a premise like this :v:

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

This is not a great plot point

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Tom is a hack!

Beepity Boop
Nov 21, 2012

yay

Lurdiak posted:

:stare: That's not ominous at all.

Oh definitely not, everything is fine, things are all good :stonklol:

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Cut straight to black.

:doink:

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
"You belong to us now" is so hackneyed

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Perhaps she thinks she is being treated unfairly?

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib
This is actually a pretty common occurrence in occult circles, so I mean very realistic but shows a lack of creativity IMO

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib

Doctor Tog posted:

Surma was not a psychopomp (which themselves are mythical beings). Surma was an afterlife guide, and the ROTD sees Annie as one. We know however, that Annie does not want to be an afterlife guide in any sort of official capacity. It stands to reason that the deal that was struck here was Annie accepting her official role as an afterlife guide.

But aren't ROTD competing departments with psychopomps? So the pomp crew wouldn't be recruiting her to work for ROTD, that'd be dadpire's job, yeah?

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


Going to be a weird comic now when he abandons the entire plot up to this point to go on Annie's Psychopomp Adventures

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

CrashCat posted:

Going to be a weird comic now when he abandons the entire plot up to this point to go on Annie's Psychopomp Adventures

Alternatively, she decides to emulate them and say now that she's gotten what she wants from them they can get hosed, and sets them on fire if they object.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib
In the next chapter Annie joins the IWW and spirits start to pile up as she starts talking direct action

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8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
This makes some sense, I think.

I do not believe the Psychopomps ever cared that much about Jeanne. She was dangerous, unwilling to be escorted away, a troublesome ghost that would just have to be left alone for now. But Muut has always been invested in training Annie in the arts of escorting the dead to their rest, and she herself has an aptitude for it. This has been a goal for a long time for both of them, but Annie's taken on other interests and Muut hasn't.

Muut's been pushing her towards this, and now that she's demonstrated she's got the skill to accomplish a task as difficult as this one, he's closing the trap. This will be interesting, how it may affect Annie. She may no longer be able to be Forest Medium.

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