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Thesaurus posted:The goal is "attrition" though so it won't be too positive. I'm imagining some restrictive budgeting to prevent much hiring in practice. How are they going to try that with 100% fee funded agencies though?
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Delorence Fickle posted:How are they going to try that with 100% fee funded agencies though? 
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Thesaurus posted:It will be interesting to see how it changes after the 90 day period suggested in the memo. The goal is "attrition" though so it won't be too positive. I'm imagining some restrictive budgeting to prevent much hiring in practice. The 90 day period isn't binding, so it's just "until whenever OMB produces a plan I like and it goes into action". Interagency transfers probably won't be affected if they're noncompetititve, simply because it's up to agencies to comply with this and they have a rationale to pretend the transfers don't apply. Again, though, with Rs in control of all branches, anything goes.
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I think I need to figure out how to get a cyber security cert. I could probably ride that to at least GS-14.
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Discendo Vox posted:The 90 day period isn't binding, so it's just "until whenever OMB produces a plan I like and it goes into action". The OMB plan probably will entail laying off the federal work force en masse.
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Saw a screenshot of an email rescinding a firm offer. Federal workforce at its lowest since Reagan, but hey - cut those jobs, build that wall!
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Friend of a friend etc claims that the freeze won't affect seasonal positions, at least? Watching Twitter today, I'm wondering how long until NPS et al is prohibited from saying anything about the climate anywhere.
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I know I'm just stressin, but I feel like there's a legitimate possibility that I and many other feds will get laid off. My agency hasn't been named yet, but it's stereotyped as a source of "job killing regulation" and it seems like it would be so easy for them to just slash the budget deeply, which they're promising to do across the board. I know it's a "last in first out" situation, so I'd definitely be screwed. Just fretting here 
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Thesaurus posted:Just fretting here The day after the election I updated my resume and started putting out feelers, just in case. At least an RIF requires 60 days notice, unless, of course, they cut that regulation as well.
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RabbitMage posted:Friend of a friend etc claims that the freeze won't affect seasonal positions, at least? It effects seasonal positions. NPS has probably already received a gag order and is figuring out what to do with it. It's looking like this probably hit all the agencies with any scientific remit, and they're just responding/percolating differently.
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I was supposed to start a new job on the 6th. Son of a bitch. I wonder if lateral reassignments also count. I am working for Navy and staying Navy for the foreseeable future.
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Drewski posted:I was supposed to start a new job on the 6th. Son of a bitch. I wonder if lateral reassignments also count. I am working for Navy and staying Navy for the foreseeable future. The order talks about permitting "reallocation" -- and in a reasonable world you would think that would allow for movement within a department or agency without impact of this freeze. Not that it seems like a reasonable world at the moment.
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Politico claims the OMB has released guidance. Can't track down an original source, but this is much more lenient than I was expecting if its accurate. Still don't know what it means for me and haven't been able to get in touch with HR so I'm still in limbo and working on Plan B.
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Anniversary posted:Politico claims the OMB has released guidance. Can't track down an original source, but this is much more lenient than I was expecting if its accurate. The actual OMB memo from Mark Sandy is linked here: http://federalnewsradio.com/hiringretention/2017/01/omb-releases-initial-hiring-freeze-guidance-agencies/
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I heard back from 2 different managers about 2 different jobs in my current agency. They said only external hires were being frozen at this point and that it had no effect on internal hiring/promotions.
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Jan 26, 2017 01:35
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Navy is stepping in line with OMB clarifications, so it looks like I get to keep my new job after all. By the skin of my teeth!
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Drewski posted:Navy is stepping in line with OMB clarifications, so it looks like I get to keep my new job after all. By the skin of my teeth! Nice!
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Just received the Navy guidance on the hiring freeze, I would expect it would be at least the same across DOD but who knows: 1. The freeze does not apply to military personnel. 2. The freeze applies to any transfers, reassignments and promotions of current federal employees. 3. Individuals who received final job offers prior to January 22, 2017, and received a confirmed start date on or before Feb 22, 2017, should report to work as planned. Sounds like good news for some of you with offers right now.
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Leviathan Song posted:Just received the Navy guidance on the hiring freeze, I would expect it would be at least the same across DOD but who knows: Lol, it looks like each agency is trying a different form/level of circumvention.
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Discendo Vox posted:Lol, it looks like each agency is trying a different form/level of circumvention. I have an interview for an internal position on Monday. Hiring freeze be damned. We were one of the agencies that went on a mass hiring spree in December to compensate for this freeze.
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The manager at the SEC who interviewed but didn't hire me said they planned to make more hires this spring but not until after things settled in with the new administration. Should have just made me an offer in December. 
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Delorence Fickle posted:How are they going to try that with 100% fee funded agencies though? It was pretty hilarious though to hear him specifically praising ICE and CBP repeatedly when giving a DHS pep talk and USCIS is like "hey...uh...did we do a good job, boss???" (obviously, no, but still)
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Was offered and accepted my long-desired job this past week. It will require a move of several hundred miles but I think it will be worth it. It was an internal posting so hopefully it won't get revoked!
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I accepted a lateral to another agency, but no onboard date as of yet due to a pending BG check. Feeling SOL.
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Hey guys, I'm a vet and graduating this spring with my degree in environmental... 
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Yesterday got a tentative offer from the BLM, they seem to think that if they get my paperwork through and get an EOD before Feb 22 I can start. Does not leave me a lot of time to decide if I actually want to move to the middle of nowhere and work for a land management agency under Trump...
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Jan 31, 2017 20:41
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I've technically worked for the government since I was 15, will my 4 years as a poolboy for my hometown's community center and my current 1 year as a part-time State University's tech support consultant qualify as 'professional experience'?
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Jan 31, 2017 23:34
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Splish posted:Yesterday got a tentative offer from the BLM, they seem to think that if they get my paperwork through and get an EOD before Feb 22 I can start. Does not leave me a lot of time to decide if I actually want to move to the middle of nowhere and work for a land management agency under Trump... If you're in oil and gas, you'll probably do OK. Really anything natural resources. Anything wildlife/environmental may not be so kind. BLM isn't so bad, though. It's pretty much the only agency where both liberals and conservatives hate you for different reasons.
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sparkmaster posted:If you're in oil and gas, you'll probably do OK. Really anything natural resources. Anything wildlife/environmental may not be so kind. Unfortunately I'm one of those bleeding hearts that makes sure mines and windfarms don't destroy things so I'm living in dread of if (when) congress takes a hatchet to NEPA and renders my career unnecessary.
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Splish posted:I'm living in dread of if (when) congress takes a hatchet to [insert statute] and renders my career unnecessary. I think this represents every non-Defense fed right now.
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Thesaurus posted:I think this represents every non-Defense fed right now. Good point haha. At least we'll have good factory jobs to transfer into after Donald brings them all back from China!
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Nah, ICE and CBP are super-safe places to work now, too! I applied to that huge every-office-in-the-country ICE posting the other day because I was like "this is one of those moments where I feel like a job description was written specifically for my interests and experience!" A pity I applied to an office so small it will probably not actually end up hiring anyone or something.
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What posting, out of curiosity? Did you apply to the wall building division, or the kind that does home visits? 
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My mostly uneducated opinion is that any sort of contractor oversight job, especially in defense, is gonna be good soon.
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Deeters posted:My mostly uneducated opinion is that any sort of contractor oversight job, especially in defense, is gonna be good soon. COR certifications are going to be like gold.
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Thesaurus posted:What posting, out of curiosity? I applied as much to get my résumé back in order as any expectation of getting it, though it would be nice to not have to drive 6 hours every day I am supposed to be in the office, which is ultimately why I was interested.
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Drewski posted:COR certifications are going to be like gold. What's so great about it? I have the opportunity to pursue this cert but didn't know it was so in demand. I might reconsider going for it if people here are convinced it's a good spot to be in.
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FlyWhiteBoy posted:What's so great about it? I have the opportunity to pursue this cert but didn't know it was so in demand. I might reconsider going for it if people here are convinced it's a good spot to be in. The Federal Acquisition Regulations (FAR) requires a Contracting Officer Representative. Since everyone's guessing on contractor's being hired en masse, it looks like a good niche. Tyne downside is the job is real annoying.
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