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Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

Milky Moor posted:

Reaper Summoner and BMX Ryder.

lol

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Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Has anyone said Easy Ryder yet? Because I think it's going to end up really appropriate.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Kurieg posted:

It seems like DA:I was designed with the mindset of "No one would ever want to play anything other than a Mage" and just leave the AI to handle the clunkier workhorse classes. Still doesn't explain the only ranged specialization for rogues being based around mines you drop at your feet.

I think this is crazy, all the classes have some really fun and dynamic abilities and mages if anything have the fewest/the most direct "deal moderate damage to man" abilities.

Also Tempest rogues can play ranged or melee, Sera is a bow-using Tempest. The traps specialisation can also be built as ranged or melee. Assassin is the only "limited" spec in that its abilities are designed for melee use, although some still work with ranged. It feels like perhaps you played a mage and didn't look very deeply into what the other classes could do?

The problem in MP was just that you had such a limited ability selection and so little individual impact that picking fun utility abilities was entirely off the table, your entire hotbar had to be the most efficient damage rotation.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Like, the Legion of the Dead warrior dude in MP can take Combat Roll and Grappling Chain, but there's no reason why you would ever do that, you only have four ability slots and everything you can do sucks except for taunting people and soaking damage, so dragging someone or repositioning doesn't matter at all. All the fun/utility abilities are kind of edged out by the necessity of using your paltry four ability slots to be efficient enough to be useful despite the MP characters' low stats and low damage.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Milky Moor posted:

Reaper Summoner and BMX Ryder.

Yesssssssssssssss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFuMpYTyRjw

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'


:mrgw:

nerdz
Oct 12, 2004


Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.
Grimey Drawer
The eyes

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

nerdz posted:

The eyes



Her posture seems weird.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin

nerdz posted:

The eyes



I love Liam's daggy baggy pants :3:

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Milky Moor posted:

Her posture seems weird.

Nevermind the posture, look at her faaaaace

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


That's a "Can I speak to the manager" haircut if I ever saw one.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Dude is like "I just thought we were coming to to do shopping, I didn't realise my lady friend was going to have a freakout at the sales clerk. Oh God I can't walk away but I don't want to be here, please let this torture end."

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Android Blues posted:

I think this is crazy, all the classes have some really fun and dynamic abilities and mages if anything have the fewest/the most direct "deal moderate damage to man" abilities.

Also Tempest rogues can play ranged or melee, Sera is a bow-using Tempest. The traps specialisation can also be built as ranged or melee. Assassin is the only "limited" spec in that its abilities are designed for melee use, although some still work with ranged. It feels like perhaps you played a mage and didn't look very deeply into what the other classes could do?

The problem in MP was just that you had such a limited ability selection and so little individual impact that picking fun utility abilities was entirely off the table, your entire hotbar had to be the most efficient damage rotation.

Maybe, I tried playing a 2h warrior and it seemed like everything just meandered two feet to the left while I was winding up to hit them. Rogue might be different but I thought their ultimate was melee only, as were most of their flasks?

And the rift mage has a ton of utility while doing scads of damage because you basically have infinite mana and shorten your cooldowns. You can weaken, sleep, and have two different kinds of detonators on very short cooldowns.

And there is that one black hole ability lets the enemies know there's a party on my fire mine and attendance is mandatory.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


The DA:I MP was fine conceptually and could have been a fun little dungeon crawl mode but it suffered from a couple fatal mistakes, primarily being 1) the horrible rubberbanding netcode that made coordinating attacks frustratingly difficult, and 2) all the base classes were boring and the good kits required a ton of grinding to get. Like this is a throwaway multiplayer mode in a game for CRPG grognards, how long do you think people are going to stick around.

ME3's MP also had super wonky netcode but all the base classes were pretty effective, and new classes could be obtained with a single lucky card drop rather than having to grind out separate materials Warframe-style. Generic Human Vanguard or Engineer in fact remained some of the very best classes throughout the entire life of the MP, instead of intentionally being designed to be terrible so that you would spend time grinding out matches until you got to play the actual fun kits.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Milky Moor posted:

Reaper Summoner and BMX Ryder.

lol

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

I'm going to name my character Zack

Woo Woo Woo

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Kurieg posted:

Maybe, I tried playing a 2h warrior and it seemed like everything just meandered two feet to the left while I was winding up to hit them. Rogue might be different but I thought their ultimate was melee only, as were most of their flasks?

And the rift mage has a ton of utility while doing scads of damage because you basically have infinite mana and shorten your cooldowns. You can weaken, sleep, and have two different kinds of detonators on very short cooldowns.

And there is that one black hole ability lets the enemies know there's a party on my fire mine and attendance is mandatory.

Nah, the Tempest focus power and all the flasks work with ranged stuff as well. You still do all the slashy VFX, it just uses your bow's damage instead of your dagger's.

2h warrior is fun if you pick stuff like Charging Bull/Grappling Chain/Whirlwind/Earthshaking Strike in my experience. You can just romp all over the battlefield making walls of fire and knocking everybody down, sometimes while spinning. The fear-causing war horn is also pretty fun. The dedicated damage spec stuff in the Reaver tree is weirdly more boring since it tends to be just like, "hit thing for damage, stand still, self heal".

1h warrior is kinda deadly boring though, unless you diversify out of the typical tank abilities, because mostly they're just standing there doing tiny damage and lifting their shield now and then. You can actually get most of the cool warrior abilities in a 1h/shield build too though, they'll just do less damage.

nerdz
Oct 12, 2004


Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.
Grimey Drawer
Best name for sara is "KittyP"

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

DancingShade posted:

Nevermind the posture, look at her faaaaace
That and her huge friggin' head atop a scrawny little neck. And her tiny arms. Goddamnit Bioware, I haven't been picking on you but Jesus Christ learn some anatomy.

PureRok
Mar 27, 2010

Good as new.
My character is going to have the default names so people use them. But not default faces. Maybe I'll recreate my Shepard, but that might be weird.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

SubponticatePoster posted:

That and her huge friggin' head atop a scrawny little neck. And her tiny arms. Goddamnit Bioware, I haven't been picking on you but Jesus Christ learn some anatomy.

Rob Liefeld, consultant on anatomy at Bioware

Pops Mgee
Aug 20, 2009

People all over the world,
Join Hands,
Start the Love Train!
Gonna make my guy look like DMX and call him Rough

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Joker, going through the Omega 4 Relay: This is going to be tight, but luckily I've got a plan; I'll pop a wheelie.

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.
Where da ark where da ark where da ark at?!

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



IcePhoenix posted:

I'm going to name my character Zack

Woo Woo Woo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diny4a32Nsc

inflatable fish
Dec 8, 2016

Milky Moor posted:

Reaper Summoner and BMX Ryder.

SCORE

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Dan Didio posted:

Joker, going through the Omega 4 Relay: This is going to be tight, but luckily I've got a plan; I'll pop a wheelie.

Or... we could just summon the reapers?

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO0rBH3EFK4


lil bit more about PeeBee from her voice actor

Stelio Kontos
Feb 12, 2014

Pops Mgee posted:

Gonna make my guy look like DMX and call him Rough

We don't need an army, we have a krogan, BITCH

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Stelio Kontos posted:

We don't need an army, we have a krogan, BITCH

Wrex gonna give it to ya

MadBimber
Dec 31, 2006

Pattonesque posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO0rBH3EFK4


lil bit more about PeeBee from her voice actor

loving bioware, getting humans to voice non-humans. typical racism in gaming

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I dont care about any of those new people. Bring back Lisa Ann Ashley and Samara, god dammit!

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


Pattonesque posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO0rBH3EFK4


lil bit more about PeeBee from her voice actor

Yep, Sera 2.0.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Pattonesque posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO0rBH3EFK4


lil bit more about PeeBee from her voice actor

Honestly I can see why characters like PB and Sera are fun for voice actors to act.

Maybe consider players too though. (She'll probably be okay)



Also this channel has videos of people talking about how Mass Effect characters gave them "the feels" that I really hope are tongue-in-cheek but I'm not going to watch them to find out.

Caidin
Oct 29, 2011
Peebee sounds fun.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Peebee will probably be fun exactly long enough for me to find someone else to replace her

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
As long as she doesn't seek validation by forcing you to align to her religious beliefs then she's better than Sera.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Bud K ninja sword posted:

Wrex gonna give it to ya

Wrex Ryder

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
also her profile's up:

https://www.masseffect.com/news/peebee?setLocale=en-us

real name: Pelessaria B’Sayle

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Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
I'd use a nickname too, TBH.

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