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Night10194 posted:Also, while all Clanners are inherently sore losers, I've got to imagine freaking out and trying to cancel the crusade over a humiliating loss in a skirmish is a good way to go beyond even what clanners consider acceptable in sore losing. If you're good enough at fighting people you can basically get away with anything in the Clans. It's how Asa Taney kept control over the Ice Hellions for so long. In fact, I'd even say it's what Kerensky had in mind. When someone expresses doubt about what you're doing, you challenge them to a Trial of Grievance. Whoever loses has to accept the winner was right. That also means they're required by the honor code to vote in the Clan council to support it, if appropriate. What this means if you're a super-ace like Natasha is that you do whatever you want and the main problem is how long you have to spend beating the poo poo out of your own people.
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Defiance Industries posted:If you're good enough at fighting people you can basically get away with anything in the Clans. It's how Asa Taney kept control over the Ice Hellions for so long. In fact, I'd even say it's what Kerensky had in mind. When someone expresses doubt about what you're doing, you challenge them to a Trial of Grievance. Whoever loses has to accept the winner was right. That also means they're required by the honor code to vote in the Clan council to support it, if appropriate. Or until people get tired enough of your poo poo that you take a nasty tumble down some stairs. Into a needler pistol.
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Defiance Industries posted:If you're good enough at fighting people you can basically get away with anything in the Clans. It's how Asa Taney kept control over the Ice Hellions for so long. In fact, I'd even say it's what Kerensky had in mind. When someone expresses doubt about what you're doing, you challenge them to a Trial of Grievance. Whoever loses has to accept the winner was right. That also means they're required by the honor code to vote in the Clan council to support it, if appropriate. You know, though, one day there's going to be a lucky headcap if you keep going back to that well. And nothing of value will be lost when another Kerensky bites it.
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Feb 2, 2017 04:47
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Zaodai posted:Or until people get tired enough of your poo poo that you take a nasty tumble down some stairs. Into a needler pistol. These dumb fuckers aren't smart enough to think that up.
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A - 4, 6 B - 3 Ceterum, censeo Cappellam delendam esse
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A) 1 & 4 Increased chances of cyborg commandos fighting AI controlled drone swarms. Also improves the chances of Lyrians fighting the island snake alliance. B) 1 Going full crazy right now would mean the scorpions are likely to be spared the wrath of the second crusade entirely. That'd be no fun at all. We need as many mutually hostile forces on this map as we can fit.
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Supporting Lyran operations currently at 19 votes versus assassinating Uncle Stevie at 20. Revealing Compellan atrocities and attempting to forge an alliance between DNS and the Concordat (if still possible) and starting a Trial of Annihalation over the second biggest victory in the thread so far are both aheas by a wide mile. RA Rx fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Feb 2, 2017 |
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Honestly, I'm picking to cause the most chaos here. Going after Justin and the Cappies is a no-brainer after they lost the Liao HPGs. They HAVE to do that one. Going after Uncle Stevie shakes things up for the Rim Worlders who have really had things all their own way so far. Give the Steves a bloody nose and see what happens next. Between the two, that'll completely destabilize almost the entire southeren sphere, which would be nice because if the Widowmakers call off the invasion that'll throw open the northern sphere to some kind of massive Drac Suns, Lyran, Skye, or all of the above counter attack! In short, there will be chaos and war everywhere is what leads to all those battle we dearly love to play. Also, involving Stefan VI increases the chances we'll see the Demon Hawks again, which would be fun. A: 4, 6 B: 3
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A: 1, 4 B: 3 Super excited for B3. "Hey guys, I know we're getting our poo poo pushed in by our historical archenemy, but the real threat here is that this guy I keep shoving dared to shove back. Let's get 'em."
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The Widowmakers neither know nor care what's happening to the Snow Ravens and Sea Foxes, and vice versa. Both simply assume the other is going to be successful.
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A1, A6 B3 I don't expect Comstar's assassination attempt to succeed but I certainly want to see them try. Same with the Widowmakers trying to go all full crazy.
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A)4 - comstar needs those HPGs back. Also, I'd like to see what CapCon have been up to in our absence. A)6 - seeing how (or even if) comstar handles Amaris will likely give us/Demon Hawks interesting things to do. Also I don't much care about the DracSuns right now, we can go check on them later. B)3 - I kind of enjoy seeing this iteration of Natasha getting screwed over - hell, I'd like to see what might happen if she was captured as a bondsman - or funnier still, captured as an IS bondsman. Now that would be enjoyable to watch.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Kobe is very volcanically active and is basically one century into a volcano-induced nuclear winter. Whether or not New Pompeii was called New Pompeii when Kobe was still one of the Star League's garden worlds or whether they changed the name when the entire world turned out to be one giant ash-spewing frozen hellhole I have no idea. Naming the city before the planet became volcanic is double irony. I wanted to vote for an assassination attempt on Marik just to see them gently caress it up but, uh, can't really count on that. Also I like your FWL, I wish them the best.
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A) What should ComStar do? (Pick 2) 3) Instigate pirate raids on the Federated Suns 5) Assassinate Duncan Marik B) Clan Widowmaker (Pick 1) 3) Declare vendetta, officially ending the invasion in favor of annihilating the Goliath Scorpions
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Political Vote A) What should ComStar do? (Pick 2) 4) Reveal known Capellan plots to the Taurians and Duchy 6) Assassinate Stefan Amaris VI B) Clan Widowmaker (Pick 1) 3) Declare vendetta, officially ending the invasion in favor of annihilating the Goliath Scorpions I like how people are saying that a Trial of Annihilation would be an uncharacteristic overreaction as we watch Natasha bombard a city because of one rogue Mechwarrior with water pistols.
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habituallyred posted:A4 You can choose 2 options for A, which is why people are picking 4 and 6 at the moment.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Personally, I'm voting to wipe out the Capellans and try to assassinate Uncle Stevie because I envision something like the following: I thought the amount of votes also determined likelyhood of success? Or is that for mission choices?
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Alchenar posted:I like how people are saying that a Trial of Annihilation would be an uncharacteristic overreaction as we watch Natasha bombard a city because of one rogue Mechwarrior with water pistols. Oh, it'd be in character for her. She's just a lunatic.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Both simply assume the other is going to be successful. A6 - messy body-swap-assassination plots are great. I could choose two, but I'm less attached to the others. B1 - we want to get to Annihilation eventually, but the narrative can be patient
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JacksAngryBiome posted:I thought the amount of votes also determined likelyhood of success? Or is that for mission choices? It is generally assumed that when you vote for something, you're voting in favor of it succeeding. The extent to which PTN takes any given vote and uses it to shape the narrative is solely up to PTN.
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Zaodai posted:It is generally assumed that when you vote for something, you're voting in favor of it succeeding. The extent to which PTN takes any given vote and uses it to shape the narrative is solely up to PTN. I'm voting with the assumption some of it will lead to the players being tasked with carrying it out, and I'd love to see them fight in these clusterfucks. Like I said, battling ROM as the Demon Hawks OR fighting a cool space tyrant's terrifying, undefeated Demon Hawk bodyguards both sound great! I'd also love to see a Death Commandos Damage Control scenario where the players are trying to minimize the damage from Comstar's weaponized spite. Or, you know, fighting more terrifying Capellan cyber-units.
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Well, the mission vote will be separate from these political votes if past votes are any indication. So we aren't to the point where we're killing Demon Hawks quite yet. Plus if it's an assassination, especially a ComStar one, it'll likely be that the actual death is off screen and at most the Hawks would be involved in some kind of retaliatory strike (which the players might have to defend against) or unfortunate collateral damage if the assassination is some kind of orbital strike. Given that the planet Uncle Stevie and the Hawks are on is under interdiction, it'd be hard for ComStar to insert a strike force in the first place, so who even knows.
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Or given that Comstar is behind in tech and doesn't realise it's behind in tech it could result in them getting hilariously stomped.
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Ice Fist posted:
I mean I'd obviously vote to play as them if given a combat theater choice, but at the same time you have to admit they'd make a great terrifying supervillain ace squad.
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Night10194 posted:I mean I'd obviously vote to play as them if given a combat theater choice, but at the same time you have to admit they'd make a great terrifying supervillain ace squad. "The NRWR are deploying their superweapon, you've got to get out of there!" "What superweapon? All I see is an Atlas." *crane slowly lowers a golden crown onto the Atlas, Darth Vader helmet style* ... and that ComStar unit was never heard from again.
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Bloody Pom posted:I like Uncle Steve, but offing him gives the Clans an incentive to gently caress off, and the NRWR an incentive to kick the Sphere's poo poo in. Wouldn't Comstar killing Uncle Steve just get the Clans mad at Comstar as well? They get pissy when someone tries to killsteal in a normal fight, what makes you think killing off the Clans' greatest enemy would be any different? Technowolf fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Feb 2, 2017 |
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Technowolf posted:Wouldn't Comstar killing Uncle Steve just get the Clans mad at Comstar as well. They get pissy when someone tries to killsteal in a normal fight, what makes you think killing off the Clans' greatest enemy would be any different? Almost certainly yes. They're going to be so mad that their ultimate revenge against Space Hitler's great-great-grandson was stolen from them. Especially after they got bodied by said Hitler-Grandson so thoroughly to even make the attempt. [EDIT] More accurately, I think it will make the Clans super mad at the Inner Sphere in general. I don't think they distinguish between the various houses and Comstar much. They just see them as "not-Clan, Barbarian scum".
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Alchenar posted:I like how people are saying that a Trial of Annihilation would be an uncharacteristic overreaction as we watch Natasha bombard a city because of one rogue Mechwarrior with water pistols. Punishing the Innersphere for using resistance fighters against the Clanners is one thing (which has actually been going on since the invasion began, so Natasha has a reason to be at her breaking point), attacking a Clan that technically complied with Zell at the expense of ALL the Clans is entirely another.
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