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If that scene is "out of place for the rest of the film", then I can only assume that the genetically engineered dinosaur created to draw more visitors was designed to have purple skin and sing nursery rhymes.
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Meanwhile Blackwater safely escorts B.D. Wong back to his volcano fortress.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:If that scene is "out of place for the rest of the film", then I can only assume that the genetically engineered dinosaur created to draw more visitors was designed to have purple skin and sing nursery rhymes. So, about trans people.
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My IIMM about Jurrassic World was when they gave what is essentially a zoo animal camouflage. They genetically engineered an animal that only exists to be looked at so that it would be harder to look at. Yeah yeah something about military use something something but it seemed like a lot of the higher ups didn't really know about that and where still OK with it in their zoo animal?
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Feb 2, 2017 20:01
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Erluk posted:My IIMM about Jurrassic World was when they gave what is essentially a zoo animal camouflage. It was an unintended side effect of cuttlefish DNA added to accelerate growth. Wong mentioned it.
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Feb 2, 2017 20:18
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Nedry's death in the first movie was more dramatic than this scene, tell me you can't exactly recall what his screams sound like. He was the villain. And they didn't even have him disemboweled like the book!
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Push El Burrito posted:He was the villain. And they didn't even have him disemboweled like the book! Also it's offscreen.
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Panfilo posted:It was an unintended side effect of cuttlefish DNA added to accelerate growth. Wong mentioned it. End of the film should've been a swarm of parakeets sharpening their beaks on the MEGASAURUS WRECKS until there was nothing left, before making eye contact with Chris Pratt, giving him a respectful nod and then flying off into the sunset carrying the corpse of the assistant woman.
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Feb 2, 2017 21:10
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Most of JW is rationally irritating.
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Jurassic World becomes much better if you read it as a satire of studio and audience demands on Hollywood blockbusters.
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Shibby0709 posted:Jurassic World becomes much better if you read it as a satire of studio and audience demands on Hollywood blockbusters. This attitude works well for Sam Raimi's Spider-man 3, too.
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sinburger posted:You are aware that JW is a fictional movie and not a documentary yea? Multiple people had to make a conscious decision to plan and shoot a horrific death scene for a character who didn't do anything remotely worthy of deserving it. Again, you keep bringing up the supposed "worthiness" of a type of death, in a scene that is textualy telling you to reject that mentality. There's no moral message in her death, in universe or without; no attribution of worthiness or lack thereof. We're talking about it because people generally expect the artifice of Good Person Good Death, Bad Person Bad Death, and the scene has nature ignore that exclusively human assumption. Good, bad, if one dinosaur wants part of you and another does to, you're not going to die in a noble, deserving way. It's shocking and memorable because of it. Additionally, somewhat funny because some people miss the point so clearly. MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 23:37 on Feb 2, 2017 |
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RBA Starblade posted:So, about trans people. Funny you bring this up because he got that red title from posting a scene from Ace Ventura, in character as Ace Ventura, while people were talking about that exact scene in Ace Ventura. 
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Shibby0709 posted:Jurassic World becomes much better if you read it as a satire of studio and audience demands on Hollywood blockbusters. The movie makes sense when you realize that Jake Johnson's character is the director's self-insert.
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IIMM is when any hunting creature, especially really big ones, stop to RRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! in the face of anything they're trying to catch. It's so loving stupid it turns me off the action instantly. No point giving examples, it's in literally hundreds of movies I think
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The DOOM game, of all things, justified that - the monsters aren't roaring at you, they're screaming in terror. 
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I'm so happy that movies don't have that wailing woman music anymore. I think Gladiator started that trend.
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Jurassic World does that thing where a product explicitly points out its subject of mockery and then does it straight-faced anyway, like a video game talking about how sewer levels suck in the middle of a sewer level. -- Also the main reason I disliked it is the Jurassic series, while obviously not a documentary, still kept its finger on the pulse of paleontology. Grant's speech at the beginning of 1 is met with laughter because in the early 1990s the idea that dinosaurs were warm-blooded fast moving birdlike animals was fringe science. Hell, Jurassic Park is the entire reason the common public thinks of dinosaurs as fast and birdlike instead of lumbering sloths. When Lost World was being made, it took the "were dinosaurs parental" debate as an influence. JP3 was gonna star the recently(1986)-discovered Baryonyx until a Spinosaurus skull was unearthed, rediscovering that dino after the only known fossils were destroyed during World War 2; it also brought in the "was T. rex a scavenger?" debate and added quills to the raptors, since evidence was mounting that they were feathered in some way. Right now, dinosaur science is in a golden age, there's more discoveries and new theories than ever before, so what does World do? Completely ignore it all to squat in a nostalgia puddle and declare that dinosaurs are boring so let's make 1998's Godzilla for a laff.
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That actually keeps in line with the original Jurassic Park book. Dr. Wu goes on and on about how the dinosaurs they have in the park are fake and engineered to be more entertaining and maximize profits.
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Byzantine posted:Jurassic World does that thing where a product explicitly points out its subject of mockery and then does it straight-faced anyway, like a video game talking about how sewer levels suck in the middle of a sewer level. Just once I want to game to pull the "BOY, SEWER LEVELS SURE DO SUCK HUH" and then not do a sewer level. Because they suck.
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Mu Zeta posted:That actually keeps in line with the original Jurassic Park book. Dr. Wu goes on and on about how the dinosaurs they have in the park are fake and engineered to be more entertaining and maximize profits. Which is true, a cool scene and a running theme in the series (see also: Grant's lecture in 3), but since its true purpose is nostalgia wanking...it left me cold after 3 had the balls to follow the cutting edge even if it meant snapping your childhood's neck and slamming it to the ground.
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Len posted:If she were a dude instead of a lady would you give any shits? http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/09/03/the-strangely-cruel-and-unusual-death-in-the-lost-world-jurassic-park
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Byzantine posted:Right now, dinosaur science is in a golden age, there's more discoveries and new theories than ever before, so what does World do? Completely ignore it all to squat in a nostalgia puddle and declare that dinosaurs are boring so let's make 1998's Godzilla for a laff. Yea, that's the ticket to box office success, make sure the film is scientifically accurate to get the massive dino sperg audience.
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WampaLord posted:Yea, that's the ticket to box office success, make sure the film is scientifically accurate to get the massive dino sperg audience. Worked for Jurassic Park.
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Byzantine posted:Worked for Jurassic Park. It worked too well, because it popularized a fresh take on dinosaurs for the general audience that we now know to be outdated. Just because the science has progressed doesn't mean the popular eye has followed the progress. The movie audience is no different than the fictional folks going to the fictional audience: they've been taught that the dinosaurs are one way, and that's what they want to see. Ain't getting to that high in the box office if your T-Rex looks like a giant bird. MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 01:25 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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I really liked that stuff in World because it felt totally realistic. I felt that that was the one part of the movie that was actually good - 1) people dont care about real dinos, they want the popular culture dinos, 2) people get bored, even with dinosaurs, and they would definitely use genetic engineering to create super cool dinos.
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rydiafan posted:http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/09/03/the-strangely-cruel-and-unusual-death-in-the-lost-world-jurassic-park Yeah I read that earlier when this topic came up and I couldn't remember what you guys were talking about. Some movie blog doesn't actually answer my question though. If it were just a middle aged man getting tossed back and forth before being eaten would anyone care? The birds were playing catch and there was no blood or gore.
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Of course people care more that it was a women suffering such a long and unusually cruel death. Most people don't like to see women suffer. Same reason that almost all generic thugs in action movies and video games are male. Same reason that when the titanic sinks, it's women and children first.
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Of course dinosaurs don't have plumage on most of their bodies. Same reason actresses don't have any armpit hair. Hollywood, baby.
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Olaf The Stout posted:Of course people care more that it was a women suffering such a long and unusually cruel death. Most people don't like to see women suffer. Same reason that almost all generic thugs in action movies and video games are male. Same reason that when the titanic sinks, it's women and children first. This is something I've noticed in MST3K and Rifftrax. They are very vocal whenever a female character is mistreated and I guess it's a pretty common sentiment but it always seems weird when they cheer the deaths of random schlubs. I mean, I feel the same way viscerally but when you think about it it's kind of weird.
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A lot of the time it has to do with catharsis and the way a scene is framed. In movies women rarely get cathartic or "funny" deaths the way you see mooks get in most action movies. Instead they usually get deaths either intentionally framed as tragic or wierdly drawn out overly cruel deaths. So it is difficult to cheer because the movie either wants you to feel sad or makes it feel like the director is jerking off in your face.
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syscall girl posted:This is something I've noticed in MST3K and Rifftrax. They are very vocal whenever a female character is mistreated and I guess it's a pretty common sentiment but it always seems weird when they cheer the deaths of random schlubs. I mean, I feel the same way viscerally but when you think about it it's kind of weird. RLM did it in their review of Suicide Squad too. Some main guy punches a soldier that happens to be a woman and they talked about how that was off-putting. The thing is though, if we're going to have casual gratuitous violence in our movies and a more even gender split in the cast - then there will be more casual gratuitous violence against characters that happen to be women. Unless all the faceless henchmen will continue to be men.... which I suppose we don't want? People are going to have to reconcile this and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Wasn't the problem Batman punching Harley? I haven't seen it but I thought that was some people's complaint
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starkebn posted:Wasn't the problem Batman punching Harley? I haven't seen it but I thought that was some people's complaint He did mouth to mouth for a little too long. Especially since it's no longer part of CPR. Even medics only use those bag thingies.
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Batman punching Harley was hilarious because of how blunt it was. She goes for him with a knife, he thumps her and she just drops.
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syscall girl posted:He did mouth to mouth for a little too long. Especially since it's no longer part of CPR. Even medics only use those bag thingies. When did that happen? I took a CPR class in 2014 and that was still part. The girlfriend renewed hers at the top of 16 and it was then too
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The most unrealistic thing about the jurassic park movies is that InGen wasn't obliterated into non existence from lawsuits and hush money payouts after four movies' worth of awful deaths and general destruction
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Calaveron posted:The most unrealistic thing about the jurassic park movies is that InGen wasn't obliterated into non existence from lawsuits and hush money payouts after four movies' worth of awful deaths and general destruction InGen has a ton of powerful lawyers and I thought they were out of business by JP3, JW is their parent company doing all the heavy lifting.
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