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learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
You seem unaware that people have a thing for that and that specialised websites exist. But hey it's not my place to judge.

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fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

CestMoi posted:

Everyone ate poop and died of eating it, but luckily it wasn't bad, because of taste

lol

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

hog fat posted:

i think the comic book movie thread might be more your speed

nah there's plenty of no-punctuation one-liner heroes in there making fun of me too :smith:

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

It is, in fact, objectively bad for culture and humanity when people read video game novelisations and science fiction all day long

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

The contemporary liberal notion of personal taste being subjective and therefore free from any criticism must be destroyed.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

BREAKING: Analysts Have Discovered Why This Book Barn Poster Has Stupid Opinions

learnincurve posted:

but then my dad has a doctorate in economics and my mum is an accountant and

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

Guy A. Person posted:

Oh hey, I did the "only read books by women" thing last year. It was fun, good luck!

for real this is dumb. making a conscious effort to read more women is i guess noble enough but exclusively reading women turns it into this weird obstacle that you have to overcome and then congratulate yourself for having done so

chernobyl kinsman fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Feb 3, 2017

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

A human heart posted:

It is, in fact, objectively bad for culture and humanity when people read video game novelisations and science fiction all day long

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

chernobyl kinsman posted:

for real this is dumb. making a conscious effort to read more women is i guess noble enough but exclusively reading women turns it into this weird obstacle that you have to overcome and then congratulate yourself for having done so

Man, I don't see how I did any of the poo poo you're talking about. My goal was to read more women, I had a bunch of poo poo in my backlog and got more recommendations from the thread, whenever there was something from a male author I just put it on my shelf for later. It's not like I missed out on any life changing works that came out last year that needed to be read immediately, I just added a handful of books (maybe 6 total?) to my backlog, when I already have dozens of books there to begin with. It's not like I swore off reading books by men forever, it was just a way of challenging myself and being more active in searching out new and more varied stuff.

Mover
Jun 30, 2008


Yeah I mean, there are enough books out there that it's not like any of us are going to run out of poo poo to read and it's gonna happen in some level of arbitrary order anyway. I absolutely have more than a year's worth of recommendations, interests, and rereads banked at the moment, there's nothing limiting about prioritizing a subset of those for w/e length of time

Schmischmenjamin
Dec 15, 2013

chernobyl kinsman posted:

for real this is dumb. making a conscious effort to read more women is i guess noble enough but exclusively reading women turns it into this weird obstacle that you have to overcome and then congratulate yourself for having done so

i was worried at first about it turning into some kind of self-congratulatory stunt. but i considered it for a few days and decided that as long as i keep my ego in check i can keep myself grounded. honestly, even mentioning it in that other post was probably a bit unnecessary, and a bit of an ego trip. but i did find out that Guy A. Person did the same thing, and found it rewarding. which i think makes the ego trip worth it.

i simply noticed that i have a bad habit of reading predominantly books written by men, and decided that i'd like to correct that about myself. i thought reading a bunch of books in a row written by women would be a good way to establish a new habit of reading books by both men and women. and after all, there have been many times in my life where i've read only books by men for months on end.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

I mean I for sure am going to be a self congratulatory twerp no matter what I read, it's largely what drew me to this thread

Jrbg
May 20, 2014

I could probably do with reading more by women, don't see anything wrong with actively limiting your choices like that

Schmischmenjamin
Dec 15, 2013

Guy A. Person posted:

I mean I for sure am going to be a self congratulatory twerp no matter what I read, it's largely what drew me to this thread

it was wrong of me to imply that anything i post here isn't 100% masturbatory

hog fat
Aug 31, 2016
my radical adherence to stoicism demands I be a raging islamophobic asshole. perhaps ten more days on twitter will teach me the errors of my ways
the best writing available to us (Westerners) is mostly written by dead white men. you can pretend that this is not the case if you want. you can respond with a bunch of truisms, you can quote all your favorite female authors but the point remains. why limit yourself?

the good news is that there is no such thing as a man and there is no such thing as a woman. the self is a construct and ego is suffering.

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

hog fat posted:

the best writing available to us (Westerners) is mostly written by dead white men. you can pretend that this is not the case if you want. you can respond with a bunch of truisms, you can quote all your favorite female authors but the point remains. why limit yourself?

the good news is that there is no such thing as a man and there is no such thing as a woman. the self is a construct and ego is suffering.

Extremely bad post.

Anyway I just finished the second Ferrante book and enjoyed it immensely. The third one is checked out at the library so I picked up At the Existentialist Cafe and I have a creeping feeling I'm gonna loving hate it.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

nobody tld me that Elena Ferrante was actually a stealth adaptation of Metal Gear Solid 5

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
What the hell is wrong with your camera.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

Franchescanado posted:

What the hell is wrong with your camera.
I dropped it into my posts

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
I'm reading a dead white man novel called Great Expectations but, get this, it's actually written by Kathy Acker

Tim Burns Effect
Apr 1, 2011

Im reading a dead white man novel called don quixote, but get this, it's by pierre menard

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Tim Burns Effect posted:

Im reading a dead white man novel called don quixote, but get this, it's by pierre menard

I had to look up this reference; drat I need to read more Borges

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
there's nothing wrong with exclusively looking for books outside of the dead white dude canon for a while imo, helps expand your Literary Sensibilities and it's usually a lot of fun. i'm not american but ceremony by leslie marmon silko is the best american book i've read and it's by a Woman who is Not White.

i mean you can only take so much of the relentless push and pull of aristoteliean sensibilities that all white man writing boils down to

hog fat
Aug 31, 2016
my radical adherence to stoicism demands I be a raging islamophobic asshole. perhaps ten more days on twitter will teach me the errors of my ways
teh

no one said there was.

what does all female writing boil down to?

hog fat fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Feb 3, 2017

Jerome Agricola
Apr 11, 2010

Seriously,

who dat?
Many of you seem to forget or simply ignore the thread title. The quit being a child part. It's cool, though. I'll allow it.

hog fat
Aug 31, 2016
my radical adherence to stoicism demands I be a raging islamophobic asshole. perhaps ten more days on twitter will teach me the errors of my ways
this thread is essentially a repository for quotes such as 'it was cool' wherein two people are reading the same book on occasion. if enough people have read the same book they all reach a consensus on how good or bad it was

almost forgot, sometimes someone chimes in with some trenchant postmodern sentiment and everyone agrees that truth is subjective

david crosby
Mar 2, 2007

Guy A. Person posted:

I had to look up this reference; drat I need to read more Borges

I say the 2nd part to myself every day and I say it out loud to people at work, and all they do is prove that grown adults in the working world can still be immature philistines.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Foul Fowl posted:

there's nothing wrong with exclusively looking for books outside of the dead white dude canon for a while imo, helps expand your Literary Sensibilities and it's usually a lot of fun. i'm not american but ceremony by leslie marmon silko is the best american book i've read and it's by a Woman who is Not White.

i mean you can only take so much of the relentless push and pull of aristoteliean sensibilities that all white man writing boils down to

If you are interested in reading what dead black women were writing at the same time as the dead white dudes then check out Ida B. Wells if you haven't already.

Jrbg
May 20, 2014

hog fat posted:


almost forgot,

i'm glad you didn't

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

learnincurve posted:

If you are interested in reading what dead black women were writing at the same time as the dead white dudes then check out Ida B. Wells if you haven't already.

i'm reading WEB du bois right now and it is fire (v. interesting to contrast it with what coates is writing right now, you can clearly see the influence, the shadow of years reads like a prototype for between the world and me) i'll get on ida b wells once i've wrapped it up

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
I finished Maldoror which was mental af but couldn't get into Poems and didn't finish it 😚

CestMoi
Sep 16, 2011

I implore everyone to read Borges.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

A human heart posted:

BREAKING: Analysts Have Discovered Why This Book Barn Poster Has Stupid Opinions

I wish my parents had money

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
They don't have any money because my dad spends it all on second hand books. He just had to give away 5000 of them to oxfam because he ran out of room for more books and my mother refused to let their weird book hoarder library house get any worse.

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat
give them to me next time

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Boatswain posted:

I'm mostly interested in Deconstruction as a historical movement and right now don't have the time for of grammatology/pharmakon/disseminations usw

good clip though

https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/french-theory

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


learnincurve posted:

If you are interested in reading what dead black women were writing at the same time as the dead white dudes then check out Ida B. Wells if you haven't already.

Leslie Marmon Silko is a) not dead and b) not black. She is a very important figure to American Indian lit though, being among the loose class of authors following N. Scott Momaday that comprise the Native American Renaissance.

Ceremony is fantastic, and definitely worth reading even if you're the kind of person who feels the need to take to the internet to deride the idea of seeking out female authors. Don't worry, the main character is a boy so you won't get cooties or have to think about tampons or nothing~

Another good (and very alive) American Indian author is Louise Erdrich--I read The Round House and it was by far the most affecting thing I got through last year. If you liked Beloved even a little bit you'll probably get something from it.

HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Feb 6, 2017

VileLL
Oct 3, 2015


What's good on Gutenberg? Trying to find some things to read in downtime at work, so probably nothing needing careful attention. Also guessing most of their translations are going to be pretty low-quality/ dated, but still.

e: low-effort post, v open to anything actually good

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

HookedOnChthonics posted:

Leslie Marmon Silko is a) not dead and b) not black. She is a very important figure to American Indian lit though, being among the loose class of authors following N. Scott Momaday that comprise the Native American Renaissance.

Ceremony is fantastic, and definitely worth reading even if you're the kind of person who feels the need to take to the internet to deride the idea of seeking out female authors. Don't worry, the main character is a boy so you won't get cooties or have to think about tampons or nothing~

Another good (and very alive) American Indian author is Louise Erdrich--I read The Round House and it was by far the most affecting thing I got through last year. If you liked Beloved even a little bit you'll probably get something from it.

This is all quality poo poo. Erdrich rules, and her book from last year, LaRose, was really good and made me Feel Bad, the true sign of quality literature.

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Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

I just finished Aquarium and boy. You guys weren't kidding. Wow.

Also this morning I was reading an essay by Anne Carson about sleep and dreams and she talks at some length about the importance of sleep/dream imagery in the Odyssey. So now I want to read the Odyssey. Is there a preferred translation? (sorry I feel like this question has been asked in the thread before)

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